Johnson has been good for the avs. They were a different team without him in the playoffs, and that wasnt good.

makar, kadri, hyman all get more, parayko and Jost maybe do too but it's not top far off

8 mill for makar should be enough because hes only had 1 season under his belt and Joe Sakic knows how to negotiate contracts
hyman at 4 mill is good

makar is literally the best young rhd and already one of the best in the league. hyman probably gets around 4.5 but yea 4 seems ok

i know but you cant gamble a player from just one season

he still has a year left on his deal and he'll probably have another great season again

yeah i believe makar is a beuty of a dman but only a few dman make for then 8 mill per

did Avs just give away Toews? Newhook will be on the roster by then.
this is just a pile of weird moves

oh **** i didn't even see him

they also are going to lose one of compher donskoi or Graves in the expansion draft , so you didnt account for that
and no way are they signing Parayko or Kamenev is in teh KHL for 2 years, he for sure isnt getting 1.6m to be a 4c when the Avs have someone like Shane Bowers in the mix.

Chabot got just as much but hasn't been as good as Makar has. And Joe has actually overpaid some players - Graves and Bura being ones that spring to mind. This also assumes that Makar would sign a long-term deal right now. I bet he signs some sort of bridge (2-4 years) to build up his resume then goes for big money when the cap goes up in a few years.

makar just wont the calder and was 10th in norris voting. people who say he only had 1 good year have no idea how special of a talent he really is. You give him the chabot deal to start with and probably go up

That's exactly what I was getting at and that's why I think the bridge is more likely than a long-term deal.

I dont think he bridges at all, that would be very dumb by the Avs
he signs a long term extension but hes waiting till his ELC is up, hes not doing it early. Hes getting his payday but another season on his ELC will only make his long term extension even pricier. Both Makar and Hughes wont sign early, they are going to wait and establish their own market next offseason

Ah, I see what you're saying but it takes two to tango. I wouldn't automatically assume that he would sign a long-term deal. In fact, I think the team will offer him a long-term deal but he and his agent may decide that a bridge is the best way to go to bump his earning potential in the long-term.

they are getting 6 years done at a minimum. The only way they bridge is bc Sakic and his group falied to get a job done and the contract drags out all summer which I dont see happening at all.

Hughes I can see going down that route, but not Makar. Not every player is a money oriented greedy one. Bridges are only in place bc a team isnt ready to commit to a player. They arent used on franchise defining players

I get what you're saying but I guess we'll see what kind of guys Makar and his agent are but i imagine some of it depends on what the Avs offer. If Joe is smart, I think he can go to $8.5-9M right away and get their attention. That 8th year is important, too. They also have Landy to re-sign, too, so I'm interested to see how it shakes out.

I wouldnt worry about it too much, I think Avs can comfortably sign both Makar and Landy to a combined 16m, anything less than that is a win.

Agreed

I will be curious if they can try to extend Kadri next offseason...to me that is something I could see them trying to get done as well.

I think they may have to move on from him or decide between him and Saad. I imagine they're going to be counting on Newhook to take over at 2C once Kadri is gone.

agreed its 1 or the other, they arent keeping both. I just wonder if they prioritize kadri more as additional insurance on newhook. Believe in the kid to be a 2C one day but then again we all thought Jost was going to be that.

I think they learned their lesson with bringing in Jost too early. I can see them bringing Newhook in as a wing at first, getting him adjusted to the league then moving him over. I also think Saad has a few things over Kadri that would make the Avs more likely to keep him (assuming he plays well and it's a fit for both parties and the price is right). 1) He's a wing; the Avs have no high-end prospects on wing so this is an area of need and, 2) he's younger so you feel better about signing him for 4-5 years.

But it does hinge on Newhook adjusting well and being able to be the 2C. But the Avs are at the point where they have to rely more on the kids coming in because they can't afford to keep all the vets around. So, it sort of has to work, lol.

chances are we will see Newhook at the end of this season, they will sign him to his ELC and join the Avs after the NCAA season. I dont see him playing a second in the AHL if he leaves college. Will be a quick glance as what he does in that 3rd line role. I would actually love if they put Saad down on a line with him and try to create 2 very strong middle 6 lines

That's a possibility but would they want to burn a year of his ELC for that short period of time? I don't think they need him as bad as they needed Makar when they did that with him. I just wonder if that would be a strategic mistake. A line of Saad - Newhook - Compher could be a really good one but I'm not sure Donskoi belongs on the 2nd line.