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Laine for Center

Created by: twodollarlobster
Initial Creation Date: Oct 20, 2020
Published: Oct 20, 2020 at 12:22
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
I do not watch CBJ play so I don't truly know the value of Dubois. I added the 2nd in because I know centers are more valuable. I honestly don't know if this makes sense. Laine is a pure goal scorer and Roslovic can help replace that center depth with Dubois gone.

Am I way off?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dubois, Pierre-Luc6$7,000,000
Harkins, Jansen2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Duclair, Anthony1$2,500,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Roslovic, Jack [RFA Rights]
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Patrik Laine: $1,755,000 (26%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
CBJ
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2023
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,830,356$0$0-$330,356
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$7,000,000
C
RFA - 2
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Duclair, Anthony
$2,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
WPG
Stastny, Paul
$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Thompson, Nate
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$950,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
WPG
DeMelo, Dylan
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Heinola, Ville
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Forbort, Derek
$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Sbisa, Luca
$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,667
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4

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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:25
#1
Pre-Med Pain.
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CBJ isn't trading PLD. Maybe something around Domi/Foudy/Savard or Werenski or Jones.
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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:25
#2
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CBJ decline. This trade solves their winger problem at the expense of creating a center problem after moving PLD. I think they’d rather avoid that. Plus, it just creates another contract issue next offseason.
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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:26
#3
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
CBJ isn't trading PLD. Maybe something around Domi/Foudy/Savard or Werenski or Jones.


For Laine? an outside shot at Werenski, but I still don’t think it happens. Jones isn’t getting traded unless he tells CBJ he isn’t resigning in two seasons.
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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:27
#4
Ian1421
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CBJ declines no chance we trade Dubios
Oct 20, 2020 at 12:28
#5
Go Wings Go
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Got news for PLD will command more then $7 mil per season, Down the road he could command as much as Laine. And the whole reasoning of move Laine would be his prohibited cost to Winnipeg.
Oct 20, 2020 at 12:28
#6
Thread Starter
some cheap seafood
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Quoting: dopplsan
CBJ decline. This trade solves their winger problem at the expense of creating a center problem after moving PLD. I think they’d rather avoid that. Plus, it just creates another contract issue next offseason.


Yeah that's why I added Roslovic to help out with the center problem. I can see why they'd still say no to this because Roslovic would be a #2 at best and I don't know if Domi is a #1
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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:32
#7
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Quoting: twodollarlobster
Yeah that's why I added Roslovic to help out with the center problem. I can see why they'd still say no to this because Roslovic would be a #2 at best and I don't know if Domi is a #1


Exactly. I like Roslovic, but don’t see him as a #1, and CBJ aren’t rebuilding and willing to wait for him to develop into that. Domi is a good playmaker, but don’t see the two-way strength that PLD has.

Point being, I think the center position is more or less exactly where CBJ want it. Not worth shaking it up for Laine.
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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:33
#8
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Sorry, but no chance Columbus makes this trade. If Roslovic was a number 2 center he’d be the number 2 in WPG and he isn’t, I wanna say he played wing most of the year. The jets and the jackets were both in the same place with needing a 2nd line center last year.
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Oct 20, 2020 at 12:34
#9
Pre-Med Pain.
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Quoting: dopplsan
For Laine? an outside shot at Werenski, but I still don’t think it happens. Jones isn’t getting traded unless he tells CBJ he isn’t resigning in two seasons.


Maybe. I don't think you move Werenski or Jones but Laine has that kind of value.
Oct 20, 2020 at 1:04
#10
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Maybe. I don't think you move Werenski or Jones but Laine has that kind of value.


Laine doesn't get Werenski by himself, let alone Jones. The list of forwards for whom I'd even consider trading Jones is exceptionally small, and Laine isn't on it.
Oct 20, 2020 at 1:42
#11
jimmyjets
Joined: Oct 2016
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Got news for PLD will command more then $7 mil per season, Down the road he could command as much as Laine. And the whole reasoning of move Laine would be his prohibited cost to Winnipeg.


The total value of his contract isn't an issue, the concern is that we are spending so much of our cap on wingers at that point. We can make it all fit keeping Laine, it's just could it be better if we reallocated those cap dollars to a different position. Ideally C or RHD.

Right now Dubois is a 50-60 point, 2-way C. He should still get better but for reference his stat line is very similar to Mark Scheifele's when he came of his ELC and he signed long term for 8.39% of cap, which is a shade under $7M with todays cap. If he took a bridge deal he could probably command more down the line, but at this point $7M on a long term deal is about right.
Jan 23 at 11:51
#12
Thread Starter
some cheap seafood
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
CBJ isn't trading PLD. Maybe something around Domi/Foudy/Savard or Werenski or Jones.


Quoting: dopplsan
CBJ decline. This trade solves their winger problem at the expense of creating a center problem after moving PLD. I think they’d rather avoid that. Plus, it just creates another contract issue next offseason.


Quoting: Ian1421
CBJ declines no chance we trade Dubios


Hey people, remember when you all said this was bad and Columbus declines , etc. I called this trade months ago.
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Jan 23 at 12:16
#13
Kansler
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Quoting: twodollarlobster
Hey people, remember when you all said this was bad and Columbus declines , etc. I called this trade months ago.


Wp sir
Jan 23 at 12:50
#14
Joined: Sep 2020
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Quoting: twodollarlobster
Hey people, remember when you all said this was bad and Columbus declines , etc. I called this trade months ago.


I mean, but for a trade request by PLD, this probably wouldn’t have happened.
Jan 24 at 1:33
#15
Pre-Med Pain.
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Quoting: twodollarlobster
Hey people, remember when you all said this was bad and Columbus declines , etc. I called this trade months ago.


It only took PLD making himself less valuable and full of toxicity to make it happen!
 
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