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If you really wanna rebuild

Created by: snowyglacyuwu
Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 20, 2020
Published: Oct. 20, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
In all seriousness if the Hawks are really "rebuilding", they may as well trade Toews and Kane. Just saying.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
6$6,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Fox, Adam
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Toews, Jonathan ($4,000,000 retained)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (CHI)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (CHI)
2.
CHI
  1. Dahlin, Rasmus
  2. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (BUF)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Kane, Patrick ($4,000,000 retained)
  2. Subban, Malcolm
3.
CHI
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (FLA)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Seabrook, Brent ($3,000,000 retained)
4.
CHI
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Keith, Duncan ($2,000,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
2022
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
2023
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$66,291,185$1,090,244$8,750,000$15,208,815
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,700,000$3,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C, RW
RFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$562,500$562,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3

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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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Hawks fans ain't gonna like that but your right that is about the return they will get for their aging core
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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Fox just won't show up, he refuses to play for anyone but New York. Also I don't Toews would get that return
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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If we can get a good return yes but fox and Dahlin/reinhart and too important of pieces for their teams to trade. And we will never be able to get rid of seabrook.
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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Rangers decline.
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Hawks fans ain't gonna like that but your right that is about the return they will get for their aging core


Only if they can find teams with incredibly stupid GMs! All of this is nothing but wishful thinking!
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Rangers wont trade Fox. But you could get Nils and Buchnevich, Buch kind of has to be part of the deal because of the contracts.
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Hawks fans ain't gonna like that but your right that is about the return they will get for their aging core


You don't realize that that Buffalo package is a better return than Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, Romanov, and Caufield lol
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fox just won't show up, he refuses to play for anyone but New York. Also I don't Toews would get that return


It's hard to tell the value because it's not 2 1sts and fox for Toews. It's two 1sts and Fox for Toews at 6.5M and 2 2nds.
Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
It's hard to tell the value because it's not 2 1sts and fox for Toews. It's two 1sts and Fox for Toews at 6.5M and 2 2nds.


Rangers would rather Hawks keep their 2 seconds, make the trade Lundkvist, Buchnevich, and a top 10 protected 1st and a conditional pick
Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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Honestly that Rangers trade is interesting. I don't think the value is that far off because those 2nds are going to be mid 30s and the 1sts are going to be 25+ probably. Plus Toews is being retained down to 6.5M.
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: aecliptic
Rangers would rather Hawks keep their 2 seconds, make the trade Lundkvist, Buchnevich, and a top 10 protected 1st and a conditional pick


Yeah no I get the Rangers probably don't want to make this deal because Fox is someone they hold in high regards. I'm just thinking about the value because this trade will never happen. I think the value is fair if you think about it.
Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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Servant of Chaos
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Yeah, Rangers aren't trading Fox for Toews, let alone adding 2 1sts
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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aecliptic
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
Yeah no I get the Rangers probably don't want to make this deal because Fox is someone they hold in high regards. I'm just thinking about the value because this trade will never happen. I think the value is fair if you think about it.


The value is hampered by the current league economy and Toews age. Where Kane still looks to be in relative prime condition, Toews is starting to show some age.
Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.
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It's not a true rebuild, it's a retool. Saad would've been traded for draft picks, not Zadorov. Also the hawks only have one more retention slot available. No way they find takers for Toews, Kane, and Keith given the current environment. Maybe Kane gets interest, it would be stupid of Buffalo not to at least take a look. But ultimately I don't see it working out.
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fox just won't show up, he refuses to play for anyone but New York. Also I don't Toews would get that return


Rangers should offer him 2mx8 years since they have all the leverage .... knowing he can only play for the Rangers
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
It's not a true rebuild, it's a retool. Saad would've been traded for draft picks, not Zadorov. Also the hawks only have one more retention slot available. No way they find takers for Toews, Kane, and Keith given the current environment. Maybe Kane gets interest, it would be stupid of Buffalo not to at least take a look. But ultimately I don't see it working out.


That's what I'm saying. If Kane goes anywhere, it's Buffalo since it's his hometown and they need more veteran leadership for their young core.
Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: aecliptic
The value is hampered by the current league economy and Toews age. Where Kane still looks to be in relative prime condition, Toews is starting to show some age.


Yeah I know but I doubt Toews gets traded without retention and he isn't worth 10.5 but he'd be a steal at 6.5 for example if the return was high enough
Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:31 p.m.
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They arent getting Dahlin, especially if they arent taking back any cap from Buffalo which invalidates the trade to start
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Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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In Connor We Trust
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um yes, 6 retained salary
Oct. 20, 2020 at 5:59 p.m.
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All these teams easily decline their trades.
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