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Realistic Kane

Created by: BigDog91
Initial Creation Date: Oct 20, 2020
Published: Oct 21 at 12:13
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Olofsson, Victor4$4,500,000
Ullmark, Linus3$2,500,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Kane, Patrick
  2. De Haan, Calvin ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Salaries should be a wash.
CHI
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
  2. Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
  3. Mittelstadt, Casey [RFA Rights]
  4. Okposo, Kyle
  5. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
Chicago gets pick, replacement player who will sign around 6x6, center and d prospect both were first round picks. Need to eat okposo salary to even put cap.
BUF
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Raanta, Antti
ARI
  1. Montour, Brandon
  2. Hutton, Carter
  3. Ruotsalainen, Arttu
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,426,667$1,487,500$4,337,500$73,333
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Hall, Taylor
$8,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$4,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Staal, Eric
$3,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
ARI
Crouse, Lawson
$1,533,333
LW
RFA - 2
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C
RFA - 3
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
$845,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$2,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ARI
Raanta, Antti
$4,250,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Irwin, Matt
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2

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Oct 21 at 12:52
#1
Joined: Apr 2017
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That's not the right package to get Kane and we aren't retaining that much on Calvin De Haan for 2 years, maybe $1M. Mittlestadt is not that exciting (I don't see much more then a 3rd liner), Johnson will be hit or miss...could be a 2nd liner but also could be an AHL player. Have to move the needle with a top prospect, neither Mittlestadt or Johnsson does that.
Oct 21 at 1:59
#2
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,479
Likes: 1,002
The Hawks wouldn’t even consider taking back Okposo
Trading PK88 would be an effort to get $$$ OFF their books,
not make a toughly even swap

If they were ok with that,
then why wouldn’t they just keep Kane?
The package u have us offering doesn’t move the needle for them imo

I’d love to see it happen,
but i think u need to seriously revamp their deal for Chicago
to even consider sending Kane here
Oct 21 at 9:15
#3
Thread Starter
BigDog91
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 259
Quoting: Jdfitz77
The Hawks wouldn’t even consider taking back Okposo
Trading PK88 would be an effort to get $$$ OFF their books,
not make a toughly even swap

If they were ok with that,
then why wouldn’t they just keep Kane?
The package u have us offering doesn’t move the needle for them imo

I’d love to see it happen,
but i think u need to seriously revamp their deal for Chicago
to even consider sending Kane here


Quoting: ChiHawk
That's not the right package to get Kane and we aren't retaining that much on Calvin De Haan for 2 years, maybe $1M. Mittlestadt is not that exciting (I don't see much more then a 3rd liner), Johnson will be hit or miss...could be a 2nd liner but also could be an AHL player. Have to move the needle with a top prospect, neither Mittlestadt or Johnsson does that.


The problem is Kane is overpaid in a year where cap hit is huge. Just saw Schmidt go for a third. When’s he is top pairing dman because of cap hit. Kane is on downslid of his career and will only get worst. Reinhart will be better then Kane before contract is up. You get a first and two top prospects. Which would be vast overpayment for 31 year old Kane. So u need to eat salary which won’t be problem for next three years because u will be rebuilding.
Oct 21 at 10:39
#4
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 11,170
Likes: 3,336
Quoting: BigDog91
The problem is Kane is overpaid in a year where cap hit is huge. Just saw Schmidt go for a third. When’s he is top pairing dman because of cap hit. Kane is on downslid of his career and will only get worst. Reinhart will be better then Kane before contract is up. You get a first and two top prospects. Which would be vast overpayment for 31 year old Kane. So u need to eat salary which won’t be problem for next three years because u will be rebuilding.


Kane has 3 years left and is still top 5 winger in the league; no he's not overpaid. He just came off a season of 98 points prorated to 82 game regular season and 110 points the season prior...he's not showing much of any slowdown. You want to talk about players that are overpaid see Marner but not Kane. Kane would require a 1st and 2 top prospects which Mittlestadt is not a top prospect. It would take Cozens, Reinhardt a 2022 1st and possibly Johnsson as well to get Kane.

None of this matters anyway, Kane is not waiving buddy and highly unlikely he would go back to Buffalo anyway unless they are legit cup contenders and they aren't yet.
Oct 21 at 2:49
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,479
Likes: 1,002
Quoting: BigDog91
The problem is Kane is overpaid in a year where cap hit is huge. Just saw Schmidt go for a third. When’s he is top pairing dman because of cap hit. Kane is on downslid of his career and will only get worst. Reinhart will be better then Kane before contract is up. You get a first and two top prospects. Which would be vast overpayment for 31 year old Kane. So u need to eat salary which won’t be problem for next three years because u will be rebuilding.


Schmidt was had for a drastic discount bc Vegas desperately needed Cap Space to fit Pietrangelo

That’s just not true with Chicago
They aren’t in any kind of a Cap crunch
So there’s ZERO reason they’d sell Kane off cheap

And just bc they could fit Okposo,
it doesn’t mean that they wanna PAY HIS SALARY
Especially while they’re “rebuilding”
We’re talking millions & millions of dollars here
 
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