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Kyle Dubas vs Lou Lamoriello TOR

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Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 21, 2020
Published: Oct. 21, 2020
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C
M-NTC
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Kapanen, Kasperi
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Marleau, Patrick
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M-NTC
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Campbell, Jack
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Johnsson, Andreas
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Brown, Connor
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Dell, Aaron
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Sparks, Garret
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Sparks, Garret
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Polak, Roman
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 8:13 a.m.
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Kyle wins
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 8:35 a.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFutures
Kyle wins


Why dubas has screwed us for years with all the overpaid bums on the team. with Lou they would of had cheaper deals
Oct. 21, 2020 at 8:53 a.m.
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Why dubas has screwed us for years with all the overpaid bums on the team. with Lou they would of had cheaper deals


Lou was there when their contracts were lower - if he was there today he'd have to pay players more too
Oct. 21, 2020 at 8:59 a.m.
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Quoting: MelonVK
Lou was there when their contracts were lower - if he was there today he'd have to pay players more too


ya but lou woudnt give marner 11 mill or even nylander 6
Oct. 21, 2020 at 8:59 a.m.
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Quoting: MichaelSimonetta_97
Why dubas has screwed us for years with all the overpaid bums on the team. with Lou they would of had cheaper deals


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Lou was there when their contracts were lower - if he was there today he'd have to pay players more too


He may have even paid more than Dubas looking at what Zaitsev got after 1 year.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
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All Lou does at this point in his career well is build a good culture. Kyle Dubas drafts like it’s NHL 20 and can see every prospects potential before the draft. I’d take Dubas over Lou all day
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
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He may have even paid more than Dubas looking at what Zaitsev got after 1 year.


no Lou tried to gamble on zaitsev and it didnt work because a rookie dman from the khl put up about 40 pts and looked solid and then after he signed the contract it went downhill for him
Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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Quoting: MichaelSimonetta_97
ya but lou woudnt give marner 11 mill or even nylander 6


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He may have even paid more than Dubas looking at what Zaitsev got after 1 year.


Right, cause paying Komarov 3m is better value than Nylander under 7? Look at the cap situation NYI is in now lol.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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Right, cause paying Komarov 3m is better value than Nylander under 7? Look at the cap situation NYI is in now lol.


but...but... they were in the conference finals!!!
Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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but...but... they were in the conference finals!!!


exactly thank you and im a die hard leaf fan myself
Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:09 a.m.
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Just to prove something after tavares left the isles the isles in 2 years have won more playoff series then the leafs in the past 15 yesrs
Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
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but...but... they were in the conference finals!!!


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exactly thank you and im a die hard leaf fan myself


All thanks to Leo Komarov

No, they probably have the best coach in the league - especially in terms of making average-to-bad teams looking good
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
All Lou does at this point in his career well is build a good culture. Kyle Dubas drafts like it’s NHL 20 and can see every prospects potential before the draft. I’d take Dubas over Lou all day


Different mindsets. Lou seems to like physicality/work ethic and anything that goes with these two. See how the Lou/Trotz NYI are build and you'll understand what I mean.

Dubas builds with analytics and talent.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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Difference being that TOR wasn't going all in in 16-17 and 17-18 unlike in 18-19 and 19-20.

Also Lou wouldn't have given Marner 100% of what he wanted just because he's Marner.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: MichaelSimonetta_97
ya but lou woudnt give marner 11 mill or even nylander 6


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All Lou does at this point in his career well is build a good culture. Kyle Dubas drafts like it’s NHL 20 and can see every prospects potential before the draft. I’d take Dubas over Lou all day


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Right, cause paying Komarov 3m is better value than Nylander under 7? Look at the cap situation NYI is in now lol.


Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Difference being that TOR wasn't going all in in 16-17 and 17-18 unlike in 18-19 and 19-20.

Also Lou wouldn't have given Marner 100% of what he wanted just because he's Marner.


Lou wouldn’t have signed Nylander for 7 and would have kept Martin at 2.5 and Komarov at 3. Every year for every playoff team it’s cup or no cup. No one prefers to make in to the conferences 5 years in a row instead of winning a cup. Lou would have been like marc bergevinconstantly rebuilding and competing at the same time. Dubas has changed his all talent belief; look at his off season moves.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Different mindsets. Lou seems to like physicality/work ethic and anything that goes with these two. See how the Lou/Trotz NYI are build and you'll understand what I mean.

Dubas builds with analytics and talent.


you need a mix of both, you cant win off talent alone but you also cant win without it, people will point to the tampa 3rd line as an example, they were crucial to their cup run but you need talent like point, kucherov etc to win, the cliche of need your best players to be your best is evident, you cant wina cup let alone a series if your best players arent at or near their best
 
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