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My Toews Trade

Created by: Traptor
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2020
Published: Oct. 21, 2020
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Is this close to value for a Toews trade?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,250,000
1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Kylington, Oliver
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. Monahan, Sean
  4. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (CGY)
2.
CGY
ANA
  1. Ryan, Derek
Additional Details:
Derek Ryan to wherever you can trade him
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$69,476,666$0$457,500$12,023,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
C
UFA - 1
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 4
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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Can't see a toews trade including lucic. Also he's not being traded so it doesn't matter anyway
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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Lucic's contract is gonna require more payment
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Can't see a toews trade including lucic. Also he's not being traded so it doesn't matter anyway


Quoting: Breadmanhawks
Lucic's contract is gonna require more payment


Toews isn't worth 10.5 m, he is probably over paid by 15-25%. Lucic contract is included for this reason as he is still an everyday nhl but worth around 1.75m. Lucic could be removed but Chicago would need to retain the 15-25% then.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Quoting: MyBaby
Toews isn't worth 10.5 m, he is probably over paid by 15-25%. Lucic contract is included for this reason as he is still an everyday nhl but worth around 1.75m. Lucic could be removed but Chicago would need to retain the 15-25% then.


I'd say that Monahan isn't really a good package starter. Not that he's not a very good player; just not the futures that we would want if we were trading Toews.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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A couple things, IMO:
As much as Toews would look great in a Flames uniform, and he is from a couple provinces over, I just can't see how Calgary would be able to work around the cap to do it. Even the GMs that have Chicago taking on salary, the flames end up (-) in salary cap space. Even this one doesn't have enough roster spots.
Lucic isn't going to wave his NMC again unless it is to a very legitimate contender, maybe not even then with him so close to his hometown now...Vancouver, want him? I am afraid Looch is retiring as a flame, or we buy him out next season.
I would rather see Ryan, Bennet or Gio traded. I love Gio and what he has done, but he hasn't lead this team very far (more on the management and ownership than him though). As great as a person he is, we need to get younger, and move on with a new Core.
If we traded one of Johnny or Monny, I choose Johnny. He is been mauled by other teams now as they know this puts him off his game. He is a whiner and the referee are starting to show there realization of this. He isn't a leader, never a letter on his chest during his tenure here, and the off ice shenanigan's, although seemingly reversed, are a sign for change as well. Face it he doesn't even want to be here, he wants to be closer to Mom. I love Monny, and the two aren't getting it done together, start lining up Chucky or bring in another scoring RW for his right side so Lindholm can move back to Center. Anyways, excited to see what Tre does next, I am hoping it is now a change for the positive on offense. Cheers,
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I'd say that Monahan isn't really a good package starter. Not that he's not a very good player; just not the futures that we would want if we were trading Toews.


to make this trade work there would have to be cap going back. It would most likely include backlund or monahan. Monahan can still be apart of your future as he is only 26. I understand what you are saying though. Kylington and the 3rd could be altered for another 1st, 2 2nds, or a higher end prospect like pelletier.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: MyBaby
to make this trade work there would have to be cap going back. It would most likely include backlund or monahan. Monahan can still be apart of your future as he is only 26. I understand what you are saying though. Kylington and the 3rd could be altered for another 1st, 2 2nds, or a higher end prospect like pelletier.


Backlund makes more sense for both teams. Monahan wont really fit their rebuild time frame and doesnt shelter Dach and the others the same way Backlund would. For the Flames side running T9ews and Backlund as your 1 and 2 is redundant unlike Toews and Monahan. Also the age of Monahan fits Calgary's core a lot better
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Backlund makes more sense for both teams. Monahan wont really fit their rebuild time frame and doesnt shelter Dach and the others the same way Backlund would. For the Flames side running T9ews and Backlund as your 1 and 2 is redundant unlike Toews and Monahan. Also the age of Monahan fits Calgary's core a lot better


I do see what you are saying with Backlund being a solid replacement for Toews on the Blackhawks roster. However, I much rather keep Backlund and think Monahan holds more value for Chicago. Backlund is the better player and I would rather keep him. If he was given the zone starts, matchups and linemates that monahan has been he would score 30 instead of 20 a year. He also carries the puck much better than Monahan and plays a better 200 foot game. If Calgary were to trade for Toews, our window would be now for the next 3 years. I think Monahan has more value to Chicago. He is quite young (26) and could still be a very useful asset when Chicago is done rebuilding in 2-4 years.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: MyBaby
I do see what you are saying with Backlund being a solid replacement for Toews on the Blackhawks roster. However, I much rather keep Backlund and think Monahan holds more value for Chicago. Backlund is the better player and I would rather keep him. If he was given the zone starts, matchups and linemates that monahan has been he would score 30 instead of 20 a year. He also carries the puck much better than Monahan and plays a better 200 foot game. If Calgary were to trade for Toews, our window would be now for the next 3 years. I think Monahan has more value to Chicago. He is quite young (26) and could still be a very useful asset when Chicago is done rebuilding in 2-4 years.


I will respectfully disagree with your views on Backlund vs Monahan but to each their own
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I will respectfully disagree with your views on Backlund vs Monahan but to each their own


I should also say that this is my preference. I do understand what you're saying and wouldn't be against Backlund going instead of Monahan
 
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