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Edmonton Oilers signed Kris Russell (1 Year / $1,250,000 AAV)

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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.
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Kris Russell has signed a new contract with the Edmonton Oilers.
STANDARD CONTRACT (EXTENSION)
Comparable ContractsCOMPARE THIS CONTRACT
LENGTH: 1 YEAR
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Edmonton OilersEdmonton Oilers
VALUE: $1,250,000
C.H.% : 1.53
SIGNING DATE: October 21, 2020
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2021-22$1,250,000$1,250,000$0$0$1,250,000$1,250,000$1,250,000
TOTAL$1,250,000$1,250,000$0$0$1,250,000$1,250,000$1,250,000
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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I guess the idea is to have him under contract so that they can expose him in the expansion draft.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.
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far too much. please give him under 1M and a month's supply of ruffles
Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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It's fine. If Klef plays 4 games or less this year I believe, then he is not exposed. This gets us to our exposure requirements on D, protecting Nurse, Bear and Jones. And then, if Klef is out the next season (at that point likely retired), Russell is fine as a 6/7 D at 1.25 mil, playing 14 mins a night. Doubt he gets taken by the Kraken, but you never know. If he stays, he is a good bottom pair defender and will be paid like one. Right now, he is paid as a 2nd pairing Dman, and forced again and again to fill top 4 patches. None of that is Russell's fault. By next season, there will be zero chance he is ever forced to play above his weight again, barring additional catastrophic injuries (as with any team).
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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He's a good player to have as a 6/7 guy. Good signing.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I guess the idea is to have him under contract so that they can expose him in the expansion draft.


Well his current contract expires a few days after the ED so he was eligible to be exposed before signing this contract anyway
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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I get that there are expansion draft implications, but could they have not thrown two years at anyone else on the market instead?

If I'm Seattle, Russell is one of the last names I'd bother looking at: I'm either looking for horrid contracts to peel additional draft/prospect assets out of or long-term pieces to put onto a roster and thus maximizing value out of players selected during the expansion draft. Russell fills neither of these categories: what's the incentive for Seattle to want to select Russell? If I'm the Oilers, and I'm pressured into moving assets, I'm better off with the Kraken taking either Neal or Kassian.

This is going to effectively make Edmonton's blueline for next season:

Nurse - Bear
Jones - Bouchard
Broberg - Russell

until the Klefbom situation is sorted out. I don't really understand this signing, even if it's to have an expansion-eligible defender. There were other names that could have been signed for a buriable amount in year 2 of the deal.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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He’s pretty serviceable
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo


I miss Marleau-Kadri-Kapenan line
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Well his current contract expires a few days after the ED so he was eligible to be exposed before signing this contract anyway


No, a player needs to be under contract for 2021-2022 to meet the exposure requirement as the minimum 1 defender per team. Yes, he would have been pickable I guess, but only his rights. You need at least one defenceman meeting the requirements. Larsson and Barrie will not, and Klef being out all season means he will be not meet the requirement, so that leaves Nurse, Bear, Jones and now Russell meeting the likely full requirements.

See here:

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft-faq
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Well his current contract expires a few days after the ED so he was eligible to be exposed before signing this contract anyway


I'm not sure that's true. EVERYONE's contract expires after the ED if they are in the last year.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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Expansion draft or not, there are worse guys to have as your 7th defenseman.
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I get that there are expansion draft implications, but could they have not thrown two years at anyone else on the market instead?

If I'm Seattle, Russell is one of the last names I'd bother looking at: I'm either looking for horrid contracts to peel additional draft/prospect assets out of or long-term pieces to put onto a roster and thus maximizing value out of players selected during the expansion draft. Russell fills neither of these categories: what's the incentive for Seattle to want to select Russell? If I'm the Oilers, and I'm pressured into moving assets, I'm better off with the Kraken taking either Neal or Kassian.

This is going to effectively make Edmonton's blueline for next season:

Nurse - Bear
Jones - Bouchard
Broberg - Russell

until the Klefbom situation is sorted out. I don't really understand this signing, even if it's to have an expansion-eligible defender. There were other names that could have been signed for a buriable amount in year 2 of the deal.


Maybe the Klef situation is more sorted than we know...this makes a lot of sense if Holland knows Klef will not meet exposure requirements due to full year injury.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I'm not sure that's true. EVERYONE's contract expires after the ED if they are in the last year.


If the ED is like last time (which so far it is said to be) it will take place days before the 21 FA
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
If the ED is like last time (which so far it is said to be) it will take place days before the 21 FA


Yeah, and that's the way that UFA's worked last time -- they didn't have to be protected and didn't qualify as exposures.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Yeah, and that's the way that UFA's worked last time -- they didn't have to be protected and didn't qualify as exposures.


Yeah and they could be taken too, so it still leaves him exposed
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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Decent 3rd pairing/depth defenceman good signing Edmonton
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Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I get that there are expansion draft implications, but could they have not thrown two years at anyone else on the market instead?

If I'm Seattle, Russell is one of the last names I'd bother looking at: I'm either looking for horrid contracts to peel additional draft/prospect assets out of or long-term pieces to put onto a roster and thus maximizing value out of players selected during the expansion draft. Russell fills neither of these categories: what's the incentive for Seattle to want to select Russell? If I'm the Oilers, and I'm pressured into moving assets, I'm better off with the Kraken taking either Neal or Kassian.

This is going to effectively make Edmonton's blueline for next season:

Nurse - Bear
Jones - Bouchard
Broberg - Russell

until the Klefbom situation is sorted out. I don't really understand this signing, even if it's to have an expansion-eligible defender. There were other names that could have been signed for a buriable amount in year 2 of the deal.


would you have rather had Ceci or Jack Johnson instead?
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo


This is the best thing to ever happen to the Leafs since 1967
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Yeah and they could be taken too, so it still leaves him exposed


Left exposed is not the same thing as fulfilling exposure requirements my pal.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: oilsince95
Left exposed is not the same thing as fulfilling exposure requirements my pal.


Do they have to be under contract in 21-22?
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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Quoting: oilsince95
Maybe the Klef situation is more sorted than we know...this makes a lot of sense if Holland knows Klef will not meet exposure requirements due to full year injury.


We already knew Klefbom was going to be unavailable for the entire season: my issue is there were better defenders than Russell that could have been had for a lesser or equivalent price on a two-year deal. Extending Russell purely for the sake of expansion at an AAV above the buriable limit does not improve the roster today or next season. At best it's a lateral move, and given that Russell's already among the worst defencemen in terms of transition and production, I think it fails to even meet that echelon. Can Russell be expected to be as defensively reliable as he continues to age and take the abuse of blocking the most shots in the league? Why pay more than league minimum if you know he's going to drop off and isn't expected to play every game as a #6 or #7?

Given Holland's moves this summer, improving the blueline and it's ability to transition has been evident. This move doesn't fit that narrative.

Quoting: pharrow
would you have rather had Ceci or Jack Johnson instead?


I'd rather have an NHL defenceman. None of Ceci, Johnson, or Russell are in that camp, and I'm not certain as to how those two are relevant to this conversation.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: oilsince95
Maybe the Klef situation is more sorted than we know...this makes a lot of sense if Holland knows Klef will not meet exposure requirements due to full year injury.


Its one thing to take Klefbom off their roster for the entire year...but you neglected both Larsson and Barrie from their dmen signed.
Oct. 21, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Do they have to be under contract in 21-22?


Yes: https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft-faq
 
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