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Is Tavares elite

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Initial Creation Date: Oct. 22, 2020
Published: Oct. 22, 2020
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So there's been discussion over whether Tavares is still an elite player. I created this list of players who I believe are definitely better. I also didn't include a lot of great players including Kyle Connor, Laine, McAvoy, Provorov, Giroux, Kopitar, Toews, Karlsson, Doughty, Theodore, Svechnikov, Teravainen, Fox, Nugent hopkins, Lindholm, Monahan, Tkachuk, Gaudreau, etc because these are more debatable. I just want to see what the consensus is about his standing.
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C
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:05 p.m.
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Is Toews elite ?
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
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Tavares fits right in the middle of that list of centres (if they were ordered from best to worst) so take that Fir what it is. Players who play with him always seem to have career seasons.
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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yes
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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Is Toews elite ?


Not anymore
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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Bajkov? lol
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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What do define as elite?
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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Chabot and Theodore should be among those Dmen
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:08 p.m.
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Yes, why wouldn't he be?... the dudes good, it just came back to haunt them, because they couldn’t go and sign a very good defence man.
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Chabot and Theodore should be among those Dmen


I left Chabot off by accident.

Theodore I put in the debatable category. Didn't want to be too presumptuous
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I left Chabot off by accident.

Theodore I put in the debatable category. Didn't want to be too presumptuous

Ah makes sense.
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:10 p.m.
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Bajkov? lol


Thought I clicked his name whoops lol
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:10 p.m.
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Hes still elite - in the same tier as Scheifele imo
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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Yes he is.
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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Yes he is absolutely still elite, but I can tell you half those guys on here aren't better than him
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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Yes he is absolutely still elite, but I can tell you half those guys on here aren't better than him


Which ones?
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.
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What do define as elite?


I'd say top 25 players
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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IMO this definition is too much all over the place to come to a definitive answer for most on and off the list including Tavares. I mean Svechnikov isn't on the list but Marner is, Laine and Conner aren't but Stone, Kucherov, Huberdeau and Barkov are. Karlsson, Theodore and Doughty aren't but Parynko and Jones are, and don't you think it's a little early to call Makar and Hughes elite? I think you also made a mistake in the RW you have Bajkov from FLA not Barkov lol.
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I'd say top 25 players


I'd say he's about the 25th best player in the nhl right now. I mean, it's hard to say exactly. All I know is he's elite.
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:25 p.m.
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I'd say he's about the 25th best player in the nhl right now. I mean, it's hard to say exactly. All I know is he's elite.


Tavares? No not 25th.
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:26 p.m.
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IMO this definition is too much all over the place to come to a definitive answer for most on and off the list including Tavares. I mean Svechnikov isn't on the list but Marner is, Laine and Conner aren't but Stone, Kucherov, Huberdeau and Barkov are. Karlsson, Theodore and Doughty aren't but Parynko and Jones are, and don't you think it's a little early to call Makar and Hughes elite? I think you also made a mistake in the RW you have Bajkov from FLA not Barkov lol.


That's fair. I replaced the Barkov one lol

I mean Marner is definitely better than Svechnikov
and Stone, Kucherov, Huberdeau, and Barkov are better than Laine and Connor
The reason I left Karlsson and Doughty off the list was because there's a lot of people that think they are not good anymore, even though I don't agree. I didn't want it to turn into a debate about which ones were better. Theodore, truthfully, I don't know much about and didn't want to add someone who might not have been deserving.

Makar and Hughes aren't necessarily elite yet, it's more of a list of players compared to Tavares.

I think the definition of elite is like let's say 25 players, there are a lot of really talented players in the league and this didn't include goalies and obviously prospects with high potential.
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
That's fair. I replaced the Barkov one lol

I mean Marner is definitely better than Svechnikov
and Stone, Kucherov, Huberdeau, and Barkov are better than Laine and Connor
The reason I left Karlsson and Doughty off the list was because there's a lot of people that think they are not good anymore, even though I don't agree. I didn't want it to turn into a debate about which ones were better. Theodore, truthfully, I don't know much about and didn't want to add someone who might not have been deserving.

Makar and Hughes aren't necessarily elite yet, it's more of a list of players compared to Tavares.

I think the definition of elite is like let's say 25 players, there are a lot of really talented players in the league and this didn't include goalies and obviously prospects with high potential.


Fair enough, I get the reasoning now. IMO Tavares is elite still but would be right on the cusp of dropping out like within 2 or 3 years he will be 9n the outside looking in much like Toews.
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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Tavares had an oblique injury to start the season, came back, and broke his finger. Played with nagging health concerns all year, and was basically a P/PG player.

His most recent healthy year (2018-19), he scored 88 points and 47 goals. Yes, he is still elite.
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Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Tavares? No not 25th.


Ok, probably more like 35th.
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:37 p.m.
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Yes
Oct. 22, 2020 at 7:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ok, probably more like 35th.



Oh, I don’t think so.
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