I would love Tierney for Tanev and Bjorokvist and a 3rd. And give us nothing back. I don’t see it happening though. Sens are a competing team. I don’t think Tanev is enough of help now.

I would love Tierney as our 3rd line C too.

Agree with the above. Tanev isn't even in our top 6 right NOW, let alone next season. Unless you were open to discussing Kapanen being involved there's likely no deal to be made here.

I mean the offer isn’t absurd. K.Bjorkvist is a 2016 2nd round pick. A B+ prospect. A 3rd line Center prospect. A good 2-way center and good passer w/ scoring touch. And I would say a 3rd round pick. And Tanev is about the cost. But Ya, not for a contending team. Maybe a rebuilding team that wants that prospect and the 3rd round pick and Tanev being a good locker room guy and good NHL player. But ya, not a top 6 forward. A bottom 6, energy guy. It wouldn’t help Ottawa this year.

5 years at 3.5 mil is terrible value for what Tanev brings. He would already be behind Dadonov, C.Brown and and Batherson on the RW depth chart and that's just in year 1 of 5.

Cost for Tierney should be in the ball park of a 2nd+ 3rd. No reason for Ottawa to swap picks or take a bad contract to trade him. If a good deal isn't out there, they'd be better off giving him a 1 year deal and letting him leave for free, rather than setting the team back long term by taking a bad deal to facilitate a return.

I don’t think Tanev contract is bad for what he brings.Hes only 28. Maybe in this year, flat cap year.

If the Pens really wanted Tierney they could just offer sheet him and hope the Sens don’t match and give up the 2nd round pick compensation. His QO was 2.975M. The Pens could offer him up to 4.363M and only give up a 2nd round pick comp. and not trade for his rights at all. If they offered him 3.8M or 4M you think the Sens would match or let him walk for the 2nd round pick compensation? Like I said, their Qualifying offer is 2.975M.

So I don’t know where u are getting a 2nd and a 3rd for just his rights? Like I said, the value isn’t bad if it was Tanev, K.Bjorkvist and a 3rd round pick. But I highly doubt a contending team like the Sens do it.

This says it all. Tierney would be a good guy for you guys to target, but this package isn’t getting it done. Bjorkqvist is a questionable prospect, he hasn’t played a lot of professional hockey yet, and was seriously injured last season. I read he’s going to spend this entire season in Europe. Tanev is depth, but that term, dang.

Your salary for Tierney looks close enough to me. He’s a middle6 centre, that can play up when needed, but not always. I think he gets the same as Connor Brown or just a bit more.

Ottawa wouldn’t ask for a lot, but they’d ask for more than this. Good target though.

Players who elect for Salary Arbitration can't sign offersheets. Also on a 1 year deal, Ottawa would just match, and then deal him at the deadline. It probably wouldn't be too much more than what he gets in Arbitration anyway. If you were to offer him multiple years at north of 4 Ottawa would decline, but you're doing yourself more harm than good at that point.

This sounds good as you type it out, the offer sheet portion, but the player needs to accept the offer sheet, and the Penguins would need to outbid Ottawa on that offer sheet, who’s probably offering around $3.5MM. If they go to arbitration, that number will drop of course, the Sens would probably offer the QO, in case Tierney’s ask was crazy high. I really don’t see an offer sheet for Tierney.

Then there’s that, it’s late, I missed that completely, lol. Good comment.

Ok, well Tanev isn’t depth..lol. He didn’t sit in the Press box once last year. He’s a bottom 6 Forward, a solid two-way energy guy that can score goals too. Yes, Bjrokvist was out all last year w/ back surgery. But I stick to that assessment as well. A 3rd line Center prospect, a good two-way player, that passes really well and has a nice scoring touch too. Yes, now at 23 years old he behind the 8-ball. But as a 2nd round pick in ‘16. If he plays good this year and comes and plays good in training camp and in the AHL one year. That would put him in the NHL around 25 years old. We’ll see. His floor is a 4th line Center or a NHL depth player, a 13-14th guy.

I didn’t see Tierny’s date on the arbitration list.

BTW, this isn’t even my Post..lol. I just said the value wasn’t absurd But the Sens, being a contending team, would do it. It’s not enough help now.

You have to compare them to Ottawa’s depth, and I think we have a different meaning for depth. Depth to me is the 4th line down, and what they can play for most teams. For instance, Nick Paul is a bottom6 forward, but not depth, even though he’s likely to be on Ottawa’s fourth line, he can play the third line on most teams. Watson will probably also be on Ottawa’s fourth line, but he’s depth. Fourth line players are easy to replace, that’s why they’re not signed for term, usually 1-2 years.

It’s all good, we’re just chatting.

I think it’s nov 8, but just google 2020 nhl arbitration schedule

Ok, ya, that would make sense it being late and my brain just remembered the 1st 5 or so.

I have always said Tierney is the perfect 3C. He would be amazing. Don't know if Ottawa want a guy like Tanev, but he fits their speedy playstyle. I do think you need to change the deal up a bit, but oh my would I love getting Tierney.

I agree with all of this except for the letting him leave for free part, haha. If he's on a one year deal Ottawa had better damn, get a deal done to extend OR move him at the deadline. Tierney could easily net a 2nd + a prospect as a rental for a team that knows they've got Cup potential, and if Ottawa retains or takes an expiring contract back pretty much every team could afford taking on Tierney at that point. Let's not Duclair this up!