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Big Seattle trade

Created by: Saskleaf
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 22, 2020
Published: Oct. 22, 2020
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This is next year. Remember, Seattle is going to take someone. So, we send them an interesting package including Nylander, also getting some firsts, so they don't take Dermott or Campbell. Because Nylander is gone, We take advantage of an extra protection spot and nab Jarnkok off Nashville for cheap since they can't protect him anyways. Then after the draft, with the following results,
Protected
Matthews
Marner
Tavares
Hyman
Kerfoot
Jarnkok
Engvall
Rielly
Muzzin
Brodie
Anderson
We resign Marincin so they take him (remember, part of Nylander's return is the ability to protect Dermott and Campbell).
Let me know what you think below.
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,500,000
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Trades
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TOR
    2 2021 first round pick (Seattle aquires them from expansion draft considerations)
    Expansion Draft Considerations (so we can keep Dermott and Campbell)
    2.
    NSH
    1. 2021 4th round pick (TOR)
    3.
    TOR
      REMEMBER: VEGAS IS ACTUALLY SEATTLE. THIS INCLUDE THE OTHER TRADE WITH "VEGAS".
      This one is Seattles selection
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.
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      Jesus ****ing Christ...
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:14 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jamiepo
      Jesus ****ing Christ...


      What do you think the leafs should then? You do realize the leafs got 2 firsts from the kraken in the deal.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      What do you think the leafs should then? You do realize the leafs got 2 firsts from the kraken in the deal.


      The first move they should make is “keep nylander” leafs don’t need firsts. We aren’t rebuilding.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jamiepo
      The first move they should make is “keep nylander” leafs don’t need firsts. We aren’t rebuilding.

      It helps get cap space so we can keep Anderson and Hyman. The firsts can then be traded for another good player, probably a defence man.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:23 p.m.
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      It helps get cap space so we can keep Anderson and Hyman. The firsts can then be traded for another good player, probably a defence man.


      Matthews marner Tavares and nylander will all be keafs next year. Figure it out from there. I would think kerfoot will be the next casualty... maybe even Hyman.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:26 p.m.
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      Matthews marner Tavares and nylander will all be keafs next year. Figure it out from there. I would think kerfoot will be the next casualty... maybe even Hyman.


      I'd rather keep Hyman that Nylander. I disagree about Marner and Nylander being leafs. If the leafs don't win a playoff round or 2, one will be out the door. Hopefully they win a round. Even if they do, they would trade one of those guys.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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      I'd rather keep Hyman that Nylander. I disagree about Marner and Nylander being leafs. If the leafs don't win a playoff round or 2, one will be out the door. Hopefully they win a round. Even if they do, they would trade one of those guys.


      I disagree. Leafs problem has not been their top performers. Bad luck maybe, injuries.

      Dubas inherited a mess from Lou. He has cleaned it up and put together a good mix of players, the best leafs team in a very long time. Keefe behind the bench for the whole season and depth galore. Not to mention Freddy is due for a bounce back year and we have two hood goalies behind him.


      What would have been the leafs season last year with Keefe and Campbell for the whole year? Imagine how much better still if we didn’t have so many key defensive injuries?

      Hood news is that now we have a solid backup and a backup to him, Keefe running the team all year and the depth to cope with injuries.

      Should be a great season.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:40 p.m.
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      ???? Why would Seattle take Campbell. Leafs can protect him since the Andersen is likely a UFA.. besides Seattle has better choices. I don't know why Seattle would give up two first for 3 years of Nylander. They can keep those picks and spend 7m on a UFA.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:55 p.m.
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      I disagree. Leafs problem has not been their top performers. Bad luck maybe, injuries.

      Dubas inherited a mess from Lou. He has cleaned it up and put together a good mix of players, the best leafs team in a very long time. Keefe behind the bench for the whole season and depth galore. Not to mention Freddy is due for a bounce back year and we have two hood goalies behind him.


      What would have been the leafs season last year with Keefe and Campbell for the whole year? Imagine how much better still if we didn’t have so many key defensive injuries?

      Hood news is that now we have a solid backup and a backup to him, Keefe running the team all year and the depth to cope with injuries.

      Should be a great season.


      I never said the problem was Nylander. I just think he will be a victim of toronto cap problems.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.
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      ???? Why would Seattle take Campbell. Leafs can protect him since the Andersen is likely a UFA.. besides Seattle has better choices. I don't know why Seattle would give up two first for 3 years of Nylander. They can keep those picks and spend 7m on a UFA.


      Ok, maybe the leafs would send him elsewhere. They definatly can get 2 firsts plus (well, I guess depending on if you think Dermott and Campbell are better than Woll and Holl) for Nylander. But maybe not from Seattle. I do think Dubas will be sending picks to Seattle so they don't have to protect a certain player.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:01 p.m.
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      Another thread like that costed me infraction, so i wont express what i think about SEA trade for my own good. ( the previous guy was sending Muzzin + 4th to OTT for L.Brown )
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.
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      Ok, maybe the leafs would send him elsewhere. They definatly can get 2 firsts plus (well, I guess depending on if you think Dermott and Campbell are better than Woll and Holl) for Nylander. But maybe not from Seattle. I do think Dubas will be sending picks to Seattle so they don't have to protect a certain player.


      You and @palhal are going to get along just fine. Other than the fact that he would trade nylander for a 2nd....


      Nylander will not be a casualty. Marner would go first... and he isn’t leaving either.

      People on this site get so cap obsessed. Dubas and Pridham are both like hold my beer and watch this.

      If there were no salary cap would you move kerfoot or nylander?
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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      Quoting: Laudan
      Another thread like that costed me infraction, so i wont express what i think about SEA trade for my own good. ( the previous guy was sending Muzzin + 4th to OTT for L.Brown )


      Laudan, haven’t seen you in a bit. What do you think of the offseason moves?
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:25 p.m.
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      Ok, maybe the leafs would send him elsewhere. They definatly can get 2 firsts plus (well, I guess depending on if you think Dermott and Campbell are better than Woll and Holl) for Nylander. But maybe not from Seattle. I do think Dubas will be sending picks to Seattle so they don't have to protect a certain player.


      Every "homer" from the current 31 teams think their team is going send picks to Seattle so Seattle would select a certain player. Not happening. Woll doesn't have to be protected.
      Maybe the Leafs would get too first for Nylander, but it wouldn't be the 6th overall.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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      Laudan, haven’t seen you in a bit. What do you think of the offseason moves?


      You know me and my crying for D. I think we are one Brodie to short to make it, few pearls still out there, especially from Teams in Cap Troubles, like Bear and Cernak...and Teams just like that with Weegar and my favourite Myers, would kill if Dubarelli would do some magic with Picks targeting those guys

      Otherwise i would say B ( premiums contracts and covid prevented him to go for more, at least half of excuse isnt self inflicted )
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Every "homer" from the current 31 teams think their team is going send picks to Seattle so Seattle would select a certain player. Not happening. Woll doesn't have to be protected.
      Maybe the Leafs would get too first for Nylander, but it wouldn't be the 6th overall.


      No, it won't be. It will be 2 other firsts that Seattle aquires. And I know Woll is exempt.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: Laudan
      Another thread like that costed me infraction, so i wont express what i think about SEA trade for my own good. ( the previous guy was sending Muzzin + 4th to OTT for L.Brown )


      Is it really that bad?
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jamiepo
      You and @palhal are going to get along just fine. Other than the fact that he would trade nylander for a 2nd....


      Nylander will not be a casualty. Marner would go first... and he isn’t leaving either.

      People on this site get so cap obsessed. Dubas and Pridham are both like hold my beer and watch this.

      If there were no salary cap would you move kerfoot or nylander?


      I'm not trading Nylander for a second yes hahaha.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:32 p.m.
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      Is it really that bad?


      Sry, yes

      You are afraid to lose Kerfoot, Engvall or Mikheyev instead on Nylander ? Thats bad Managment

      Team is half empty after coming Season, the above three mentioned and Holl + probably Dermott with contracts that will let Team to expose them. Ofc they will fill their 70 Games over 2 Seasons. So basically you protect 4 + 4 and leave Holl exposed next to them.
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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      Sry, yes

      You are afraid to lose Kerfoot, Engvall or Mikheyev instead on Nylander ? Thats bad Managment


      No, can't loose Soup anyway, just getting some assets in 1sts, and cap space. I realize it sucks to loose Nylander. Just thought I would try a new type of post. Most people trade Nylander for other players (by the way, I think that's better). Thanks for your opinion though. I appreciate it even if you don't like it.
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.
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      Quoting: Laudan
      Another thread like that costed me infraction, so i wont express what i think about SEA trade for my own good. ( the previous guy was sending Muzzin + 4th to OTT for L.Brown )


      Ok, that's a bad trade. At least in my trade I'm getting good value.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: palhal
      Every "homer" from the current 31 teams think their team is going send picks to Seattle so Seattle would select a certain player. Not happening. Woll doesn't have to be protected.
      Maybe the Leafs would get too first for Nylander, but it wouldn't be the 6th overall.


      No team will be trading picks to Seattle to select players. Every GM saw what happened w/ Vegas and giving them picks to take players or not to take players. Every GM realizes now it’s better to just lose your player and move on. And not to trade any assets to hurt your team even more.
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      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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      Quoting: Penguins21
      No team will be trading picks to Seattle to select players. Every GM saw what happened w/ Vegas and giving them picks to take players or not to take players. Every GM realizes now it’s better to just lose your player and move on. And not to trade any assets to hurt your team even more.


      I'm think a couple teams will stubbornly insist apon keeping a certain player, and give up a quaility pick to keep them.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: Laudan
      You know me and my crying for D. I think we are one Brodie to short to make it, few pearls still out there, especially from Teams in Cap Troubles, like Bear and Cernak...and Teams just like that with Weegar and my favourite Myers, would kill if Dubarelli would do some magic with Picks targeting those guys

      Otherwise i would say B- ( premiums contracts and covid prevented him to go for more, at least half of excuse isnt self inflicted )


      Fingers crossed it’s Brodie of last season. Things will look really good if it is.
      Oct. 22, 2020 at 10:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: Saskleaf
      I'm think a couple teams will stubbornly insist apon keeping a certain player, and give up a quaility pick to keep them.


      We’ll see; I doubt it after what all the GM’s saw happened w/ Vegas. Maybe the bad ones, but what does that say about your Post..lol.

      It would be better for them just to take their player. And the Leafs deal w/ it. Not give up assets like Nylander to get them to take a player. Even if the two 1st would come back in your imaginary deal that would never happen.

      And Jarnkrok is a right-handed shot that plays Center. You would think he would be play on the RW and the left-handed shot Engvall would play on the LW.
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