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Top disliked liked overrated underrated and respected players

Created by: Pens3lieve
Initial Creation Date: Oct 22, 2020
Published: Oct 23 at 5:42
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Team Explanation
As a pens fan...
LW-disliked
C-liked
RW-respected
LD-overrated
RD-underrated

G-goalies I like
scratches-goalies I dislike
injured reserve-goalies I respect
LTIR-overrated goalies
I left out underrated goalies just bc...I don't have any...
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
125$10,000,000$704,656,561$0$9,687,500-$694,656,561
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WSH
Bäckström, Nicklas
$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$2,100,000
LW
RFA - 1
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,454,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
FLA
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
FLA
Barkov, Aleksander
$5,900,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
NSH
Forsberg, Filip
$6,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
VAN
Boeser, Brock
$5,875,000
RW
RFA - 2
WSH
Hagelin, Carl
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
$3,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
ARI
Kessel, Phil
$6,800,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
CAR
Fast, Jesper
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
BOS
Pastrnak, David
$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 3
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
NSH
Ellis, Ryan
$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 7
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
$2,550,000
LW
RFA - 2
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$3,000,000
LW
RFA - 3
STL
Clifford, Kyle
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
WSH
Sprong, Daniel
$725,000
RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Bonino, Nick
$4,100,000
C
UFA - 1
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
ARI
Keller, Clayton
$7,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
WSH
Wilson, Tom
$5,166,666
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
NSH
Josi, Roman
$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
PHI
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
LAK
Byfield, Quinton
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
LAK
Määttä, Olli
$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 2
WSH
Oshie, T.J.
$5,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 2
VAN
Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 3
CBJ
Werenski, Zachary
$5,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
CBJ
Domi, Max
$5,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
BOS
Smith, Craig
$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
DAL
Radulov, Alexander
$6,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$3,700,000
LW
RFA - 2
CAR
Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
FLA
Huberdeau, Jonathan
$5,900,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
SJS
Kane, Evander
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 5
CBJ
Foudy, Liam
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 6
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
WSH
Eller, Lars
$3,500,000
C
UFA - 3
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
VGK
Reaves, Ryan
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BOS
Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
COL
Graves, Ryan
$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
WSH
Ovechkin, Alex
$9,538,462
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
PHI
Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NMC
UFA - 6
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
WSH
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$7,800,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$4,166,667
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
VGK
Fleury, Marc-André
$7,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
$6,875,000
C
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$3,333,333
G
NTC
UFA - 3
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
ARI
Kuemper, Darcy
$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
CGY
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
NSH
Duchene, Matt
$8,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
NSH
Ekholm, Mattias
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
CBJ
Merzlikins, Elvis
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
Hall, Taylor
$8,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 5
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
WSH
Carlson, John
$8,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
TOR
Hållander, Filip
$764,167
C
RFA - 3
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$4,800,000
RD
RFA - 2
LAK
Doughty, Drew
$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
LAK
Kopitar, Anze
$10,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
VGK
Pacioretty, Max
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
ARI
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$8,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
CHI
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
WSH
Schultz, Justin
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BOS
Halák, Jaroslav
$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
$7,000,000
G
UFA - 1
FLA
Bobrovsky, Sergei
$10,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
VGK
Lehner, Robin
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
OTT
Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
UFA - 4
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
WSH
Lundqvist, Henrik
$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
NSH
Rinne, Pekka
$5,000,000
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
NJD
Crawford, Corey
$3,900,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
VAN
Holtby, Braden
$4,300,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
LAK
Quick, Jonathan
$5,800,000
G
UFA - 3
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1

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Oct 23 at 5:47
#1
MisstheWhalers
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 11,778
Likes: 4,757
Strange, I wouldn't think anyone would dislike Backstrom, doesn't seem like there's much to dislike about him, I'd say he's underrated if anything but that's just my opinion.
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Oct 23 at 5:48
#2
Its pretty mint.
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 7,323
Likes: 3,775
Holy crap, that is a lot of players to dislike. I guess a byproduct of all of the playoff series that the Pens have played?

Edit: And why Hyman?
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Oct 23 at 5:50
#3
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 118
Likes: 48
How TF is Morgan Rielly overrated?
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Oct 23 at 5:51
#4
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 11,330
Likes: 4,838
This must be personal preference, I find it really difficult to dislike Backstrom, and just as difficult to even remotely respect Kassian
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Oct 23 at 6:01
#5
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,500
Likes: 792
Crawford is probably the most underrated goalie and quick and rinne aren't really overrated just old and not good anymore
Oct 23 at 6:05
#6
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 9,160
Likes: 4,737
Quoting: Thanos_1738
How TF is Morgan Rielly overrated?


In terms of pure offensive ability from Dmen he's one of the best ones, but as an overall player he's definitely overrated. He's straight up bad defensively. Also I think people weigh his 18/19 season way too heavily when evaluating his overall talent level. Nothing about his career as a whole suggests he's capable of being that level of player consistently.
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Oct 23 at 6:15
#7
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 743
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Strange, I wouldn't think anyone would dislike Backstrom, doesn't seem like there's much to dislike about him, I'd say he's underrated if anything but that's just my opinion.


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This must be personal preference, I find it really difficult to dislike Backstrom, and just as difficult to even remotely respect Kassian


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Holy crap, that is a lot of players to dislike. I guess a byproduct of all of the playoff series that the Pens have played?

Edit: And why Hyman?


backstrom bc PIT has played him so much and I'm sick of him setting up OVI lol
Hyman I just don't like IDK why....that's a bad reason...
Kassian just for whooping Tkachuk-only reason...
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Oct 23 at 6:15
#8
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
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Likes: 743
Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Crawford is probably the most underrated goalie and quick and rinne aren't really overrated just old and not good anymore


fair point. I guess they aren't overrated in general just some fans talk about them as If this were 2015/16
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Oct 23 at 6:18
#9
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
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Oct 23 at 6:21
#10
bhavikp27
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 7,164
Likes: 2,802
Add Fleury to the overrated goalies (I get it you're a Pens fan you like him I understand but still)
Bergeron overrated???
Oct 23 at 6:22
#11
Jetsfan
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,725
Likes: 1,175
Oct 23 at 6:25
#12
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 16,867
Likes: 6,085
Quoting: Jetman
Why can't I quote it?


Cuz everyone gets tagged again haha
Oct 23 at 6:25
#13
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 11,330
Likes: 4,838
Quoting: Pens3lieve
backstrom bc PIT has played him so much and I'm sick of him setting up OVI lol
Hyman I just don't like IDK why....that's a bad reason...
Kassian just for whooping Tkachuk-only reason...


Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...
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Oct 23 at 6:28
#14
Jetsfan
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,725
Likes: 1,175
Quoting: csick
Cuz everyone gets tagged again haha


I no...just figured that I would throw it out there...lol
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Oct 23 at 6:30
#15
Its pretty mint.
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 7,323
Likes: 3,775
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...


Oof, I forgot about that. It happened only a month before the season paused, but it feels like it was 20 years ago.
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Oct 23 at 6:33
#16
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Likes: 1,835
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...


Even as an oilers fan who does like kassian cant defend that incident and truly believe he deserved a very harsh suspension.
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Oct 23 at 6:50
#17
NoMontourRistoBarrie
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,271
Likes: 538
Kassian in the respected category? Ok then

Edit: NVM, I see Tkachuk on the LW
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Oct 23 at 7:17
#18
Stars and Bolts fan
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 15,642
Likes: 7,586
Just curious but how do you divide the liked and the respected players to one and another? Because I find it hard to respect players I actively dislike, but also I don't think I dislike the players I don't respect in some ways... I dunno what's the difference between the two.
Oct 23 at 7:49
#19
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,500
Likes: 792
Quoting: justaBoss
Just curious but how do you divide the liked and the respected players to one and another? Because I find it hard to respect players I actively dislike, but also I don't think I dislike the players I don't respect in some ways... I dunno what's the difference between the two.


There are definitely player that I don't like or dislike but still respect. My example would be Crosby. I used to dislike him but he's gotten less annoying with age and I've always respected his talent
Oct 23 at 7:51
#20
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...


another very good point....I guess he should be on the one good moment but all else not so much list...
Oct 23 at 7:56
#21
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Add Fleury to the overrated goalies (I get it you're a Pens fan you like him I understand but still)
Bergeron overrated???


fleury I don't think is overrated....I think some PIT fans like him too much but overall he is what he is. he's an older goalie that can be a nice 1B...but he's had a HOF career for sure. I think that's for sure.
Bergeron just bc he wins the ridiculous selke trophy some years on rep only...like he's played 50 or 60 games and didn't even have stellar D stats (some years Sid/O'reilly/couturier/cirelli/etc...) have comparable or better stats)...and Bergeron still wins the trophy....I don't think Sid has ever won it...that stinks...he's been a good two-way player his whole career...
I respect Bergeron as well but for these purposes I put him as slightly overrated....
Oct 23 at 7:59
#22
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 743
Quoting: justaBoss
Just curious but how do you divide the liked and the respected players to one and another? Because I find it hard to respect players I actively dislike, but also I don't think I dislike the players I don't respect in some ways... I dunno what's the difference between the two.


players I like--genuinely like watching play and "wish they were on my team", or just like their style.
players I respect--I don't wish for them, but I don't like playing against them bc I respect how good they are (McDavid, draisaitl, gally, pasta, Kuch, etc.) or stuff like that....or players no longer with my team and I don't like playing them now but I am appreciative for what they did for my team (Fleury, Hornqvist, Kessel, Hagelin)....or a player like lindblom or Mario Lemieux or mattaa that overcame cancer or something....
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Oct 23 at 8:00
#23
Sabres are elite
Joined: Jun 2017
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Saying Kassian has respect and not having Huberdeau in the most underrated players is a criminal offense.
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Oct 23 at 8:00
#24
Stars and Bolts fan
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
There are definitely player that I don't like or dislike but still respect. My example would be Crosby. I used to dislike him but he's gotten less annoying with age and I've always respected his talent


I guess...but that'd apply to all top tier players of the sport...McDavid's speed, Crosby's playmaking, Ovechkin's shot...I kinda respect all the effort they've had to put in to become that good..but that'd sort of make this kind of lists pointless.
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Oct 23 at 8:01
#25
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: Skyraider112
Saying Kassian has respect and not having Huberdeau in the most underrated players is a criminal offense.


read previous posts...I only respect kassian for bashing tkachuk...not being a goon and kicking someone with a skate....
Huberdeau may be underrated but not for me...for me he's a top-5 LW in the league...fantastic player.
 
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