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Top disliked liked overrated underrated and respected players

Created by: Pens3lieve
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 22, 2020
Published: Oct. 23, 2020
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As a pens fan...
LW-disliked
C-liked
RW-respected
LD-overrated
RD-underrated

G-goalies I like
scratches-goalies I dislike
injured reserve-goalies I respect
LTIR-overrated goalies
I left out underrated goalies just bc...I don't have any...
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C
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RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
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C
NMC
UFA - 2
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RW
UFA - 4
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LW
UFA - 2
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RW
UFA - 2
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RW, LW
UFA - 1
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RW
M-NTC, NMC
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RW
UFA - 4
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RW
UFA - 3
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RW
NMC
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C
UFA - 1
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UFA - 5
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 3
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 7
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LW
UFA - 2
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C, LW
UFA - 5
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 5
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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C
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RW
M-NTC
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LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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UFA - 4
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RFA - 4
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LD
UFA - 2
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RW
M-NTC
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C
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LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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RW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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RW
UFA - 3
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LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,700,000$3,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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NMC
UFA - 3
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LW, RW
M-NTC
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LW
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C
UFA - 3
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C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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RW
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C
NMC
UFA - 6
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C
M-NTC
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C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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C
UFA - 4
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RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
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LD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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C, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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LD
UFA - 8
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
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RD
M-NTC, NMC
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RD
UFA - 6
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LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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RD
UFA - 1
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LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 4
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C
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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G
UFA - 2
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RW, C
UFA - 6
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LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
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C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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RD
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,250,000$2,250,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$10,000,000$10,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,900,000$3,900,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,300,000$4,300,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1

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Oct. 23, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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MisstheWhalers
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Strange, I wouldn't think anyone would dislike Backstrom, doesn't seem like there's much to dislike about him, I'd say he's underrated if anything but that's just my opinion.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 5:48 p.m.
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Holy crap, that is a lot of players to dislike. I guess a byproduct of all of the playoff series that the Pens have played?

Edit: And why Hyman?
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.
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How TF is Morgan Rielly overrated?
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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This must be personal preference, I find it really difficult to dislike Backstrom, and just as difficult to even remotely respect Kassian
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.
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Crawford is probably the most underrated goalie and quick and rinne aren't really overrated just old and not good anymore
Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Thanos_1738
How TF is Morgan Rielly overrated?


In terms of pure offensive ability from Dmen he's one of the best ones, but as an overall player he's definitely overrated. He's straight up bad defensively. Also I think people weigh his 18/19 season way too heavily when evaluating his overall talent level. Nothing about his career as a whole suggests he's capable of being that level of player consistently.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Strange, I wouldn't think anyone would dislike Backstrom, doesn't seem like there's much to dislike about him, I'd say he's underrated if anything but that's just my opinion.


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This must be personal preference, I find it really difficult to dislike Backstrom, and just as difficult to even remotely respect Kassian


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Holy crap, that is a lot of players to dislike. I guess a byproduct of all of the playoff series that the Pens have played?

Edit: And why Hyman?


backstrom bc PIT has played him so much and I'm sick of him setting up OVI lol
Hyman I just don't like IDK why....that's a bad reason...
Kassian just for whooping Tkachuk-only reason...
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Crawford is probably the most underrated goalie and quick and rinne aren't really overrated just old and not good anymore


fair point. I guess they aren't overrated in general just some fans talk about them as If this were 2015/16
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:18 p.m.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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Add Fleury to the overrated goalies (I get it you're a Pens fan you like him I understand but still)
Bergeron overrated???
Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Why can't I quote it?


Cuz everyone gets tagged again haha
Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
backstrom bc PIT has played him so much and I'm sick of him setting up OVI lol
Hyman I just don't like IDK why....that's a bad reason...
Kassian just for whooping Tkachuk-only reason...


Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Cuz everyone gets tagged again haha


I no...just figured that I would throw it out there...lol
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...


Oof, I forgot about that. It happened only a month before the season paused, but it feels like it was 20 years ago.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...


Even as an oilers fan who does like kassian cant defend that incident and truly believe he deserved a very harsh suspension.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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Kassian in the respected category? Ok then

Edit: NVM, I see Tkachuk on the LW
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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Just curious but how do you divide the liked and the respected players to one and another? Because I find it hard to respect players I actively dislike, but also I don't think I dislike the players I don't respect in some ways... I dunno what's the difference between the two.
Oct. 23, 2020 at 7:49 p.m.
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Just curious but how do you divide the liked and the respected players to one and another? Because I find it hard to respect players I actively dislike, but also I don't think I dislike the players I don't respect in some ways... I dunno what's the difference between the two.


There are definitely player that I don't like or dislike but still respect. My example would be Crosby. I used to dislike him but he's gotten less annoying with age and I've always respected his talent
Oct. 23, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kassian also kicked Cernak in the stomach with his skate blade...


another very good point....I guess he should be on the one good moment but all else not so much list...
Oct. 23, 2020 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Add Fleury to the overrated goalies (I get it you're a Pens fan you like him I understand but still)
Bergeron overrated???


fleury I don't think is overrated....I think some PIT fans like him too much but overall he is what he is. he's an older goalie that can be a nice 1B...but he's had a HOF career for sure. I think that's for sure.
Bergeron just bc he wins the ridiculous selke trophy some years on rep only...like he's played 50 or 60 games and didn't even have stellar D stats (some years Sid/O'reilly/couturier/cirelli/etc...) have comparable or better stats)...and Bergeron still wins the trophy....I don't think Sid has ever won it...that stinks...he's been a good two-way player his whole career...
I respect Bergeron as well but for these purposes I put him as slightly overrated....
Oct. 23, 2020 at 7:59 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Just curious but how do you divide the liked and the respected players to one and another? Because I find it hard to respect players I actively dislike, but also I don't think I dislike the players I don't respect in some ways... I dunno what's the difference between the two.


players I like--genuinely like watching play and "wish they were on my team", or just like their style.
players I respect--I don't wish for them, but I don't like playing against them bc I respect how good they are (McDavid, draisaitl, gally, pasta, Kuch, etc.) or stuff like that....or players no longer with my team and I don't like playing them now but I am appreciative for what they did for my team (Fleury, Hornqvist, Kessel, Hagelin)....or a player like lindblom or Mario Lemieux or mattaa that overcame cancer or something....
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
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Saying Kassian has respect and not having Huberdeau in the most underrated players is a criminal offense.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
There are definitely player that I don't like or dislike but still respect. My example would be Crosby. I used to dislike him but he's gotten less annoying with age and I've always respected his talent


I guess...but that'd apply to all top tier players of the sport...McDavid's speed, Crosby's playmaking, Ovechkin's shot...I kinda respect all the effort they've had to put in to become that good..but that'd sort of make this kind of lists pointless.
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Oct. 23, 2020 at 8:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
Saying Kassian has respect and not having Huberdeau in the most underrated players is a criminal offense.


read previous posts...I only respect kassian for bashing tkachuk...not being a goon and kicking someone with a skate....
Huberdeau may be underrated but not for me...for me he's a top-5 LW in the league...fantastic player.
 
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