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Created by: PeterK

Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 24, 2020

Published: Oct. 24, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Yzerman might like to have Sergachev back..? I don't know what the returns would be here in terms of picks but I think Detroit would love Sergachev and they have space for Johnson now and could buy him out down the line closer to the end of the deal. Ideally they would take the whole contract obviously. I think New Jersey would like Gourde, they have a little space and have been under performing. Contract is a bit hefty, I think my ask is a bit high but he is a winner now too. I didn't mess with the depth options as I am not familiar with Tampa's depth players but you could certainly make moves to get the bottom lines the way you want. I added a few options off the top of my head, stuck them in LTIR.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Cernak, Erik		2	$2,400,000
Cirelli, Anthony		2	$3,700,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Duclair, Anthony	2	$2,500,000
Greene, Andy	1	$1,200,000
Gravel, Kevin	1	$700,000
Hainsey, Ron	1	$700,000
Hamonic, Travis	1	$1,900,000

Trades

TBL

2021 3rd round pick (DET)

DET

Johnson, Tyler ($1,500,000 retained)
Sergachev, Mikhail [RFA Rights]

TBL

Foote, Nolan

NJD

Gourde, Yanni
2021 3rd round pick (TBL)

Buyouts

Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Tyler Johnson: $1,500,000 (30%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$80,437,500	$0	$0	$1,062,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Coleman, Blake $1,800,000$1,800,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Point, Brayden $6,750,000$6,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 7
Killorn, Alex $4,450,000$4,450,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 2
Goodrow, Barclay $925,000$925,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony $3,700,000$3,700,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Duclair, Anthony $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Paquette, Cédric $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Stephens, Mitchell $737,500$737,500 C UFA - 2	Maroon, Patrick $900,000$900,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Cernak, Erik $2,400,000$2,400,000 RD UFA - 3	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $9,500,000$9,500,000 G UFA - 8
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 6	Hamonic, Travis $1,900,000$1,900,000 RD UFA - 1	McElhinney, Curtis $1,300,000$1,300,000 G UFA - 1
Coburn, Braydon $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD NTC UFA - 1	Schenn, Luke $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Hainsey, Ron $700,000$700,000 RD UFA
		Gravel, Kevin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA
		Greene, Andy $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Oct. 24, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.

MisstheWhalers

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I know Gourde had a good playoffs but I'm still not convinced there's too many teams that are going to pay anything for him.

Oct. 24, 2020 at 11:54 a.m.

HockeyFan989

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Feels more like Yzerman using Tampa tbh

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.

Scoob1978

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I know Gourde had a good playoffs but I'm still not convinced there's too many teams that are going to pay anything for him.

Especially not a top prospect.

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.

NHLfan10506

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A more realistic trade would be Gourde + Cal Foote for NJD's 3rd round pick.

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 11:57 a.m.

aedoran

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As a Detroit fan I'd take that trade. I'm pretty sure this is something TB wouldn't do and how do you get Johnson to waive for Detroit?

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.

PeterK

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Quoting: aedoran

As a Detroit fan I'd take that trade. I'm pretty sure this is something TB wouldn't do and how do you get Johnson to waive for Detroit?

Yzerman.

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.

PeterK

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

A more realistic trade would be Gourde + Cal Foote for NJD's 3rd round pick.

Yeah, probably, I changed it.

Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Scoob1978

Especially not a top prospect.

Exactly and why would NJ want to partially reverse the Coleman trade for Gourde who at his age doesn't really fit into what the Devils are building, this makes zero sense from NJ's perspective imo.

Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Quoting: aedoran

As a Detroit fan I'd take that trade. I'm pretty sure this is something TB wouldn't do and how do you get Johnson to waive for Detroit?

He might for one season for Yzerman, And if Yzerman can deal him to Seattle next summer even if we have to add a semi sweetener to the deal. It would make it worth while.

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:31 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: PeterK

Yzerman.

If he does waive for Detroit it would be because of Yzerman. I'm just not sure Yzerman has that much influence with Johnson. I could see a coach being able to get a player to follow him to a rebuilding team but you pretty much see your coach every day.

Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

He might for one season for Yzerman, And if Yzerman can deal him to Seattle next summer even if we have to add a semi sweetener to the deal. It would make it worth while.

If Yzerman and Johnson have that good of a relationship to get him to waive for Detroit I'm not sure he turns around and sends him to an expansion team.

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 12:42 p.m.

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DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Quoting: aedoran

If Yzerman and Johnson have that good of a relationship to get him to waive for Detroit I'm not sure he turns around and sends him to an expansion team.

Yeah it's not like with the tons of salary cap we've down the road that we can't afford to hang on to Johnson, He'd be a nice mentor to the kids if he were to get dealt to Detroit pretty sure he just plays out his contract there.

Oct. 24, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.

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jwg314

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Giving Sergachev to Detroit for practically nothing is... doing Tampa a favor?

Oct. 24, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

As a Detroit fan I'd take that trade. I'm pretty sure this is something TB wouldn't do and how do you get Johnson to waive for Detroit?

I could be wrong but I think the waiver priority is still based on last seasons results, therefore, Detroit could pick TJ on waivers so maybe a condition in a Sergachev deal could be worked out. I’m not sure if that’s legal but it definitely could be used if TJ doesn’t want to willingly come to Detroit in some way I’m sure. If this deal was offered I’d take it all day from Detroit.

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Oct. 24, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.

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BOLTLOVER1

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SERG going nowhere.. TJ to Detroit with a 2nd and a prospect that Yzerman likes for a "bag of pucks" is still in Detroits best interest in 2/3 years from now .. and TJ will go to ANY NHL team now .. he will never play for Tampa again .. cant understand why people don't get that...

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