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Carolina

Created by: WpgJts
Initial Creation Date: Oct 25, 2020
Published: Oct 25, 2020 at 3:08
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Jarvis, Seth3$850,000
Perfetti, Cole3$850,000
Lundmark, Simon3$750,000
Nikulin, Ilya3$750,000
Torgersson, Daniel3$750,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Harkins, Jansen2$775,000
Roslovic, Jack2$1,775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hamonic, Travis2$2,500,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Skjei, Brady
  3. Jarvis, Seth [Reserve List]
CAR
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Niku, Sami [RFA Rights]
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Patrik Laine: $1,755,000 (26%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2023
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$82,467,022$0$670,000-$967,022
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
WPG
Stastny, Paul
$6,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
CAR
Necas, Martin
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$1,775,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Thompson, Nate
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$775,000
LW
RFA - 2
WPG
Gustafsson, David
$817,500
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
WPG
DeMelo, Dylan
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
CAR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Hamonic, Travis
$2,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
WPG
Forbort, Derek
$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Sbisa, Luca
$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,667
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4

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Oct 25, 2020 at 3:10
#1
Pre-Med Pain.
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Jets don't do this. They need a Pesce or Hamilton with Necas.
Oct 25, 2020 at 3:23
#2
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Jets don't do this. They need a Pesce or Hamilton with Necas.


i feel like neither team does this
Oct 25, 2020 at 3:29
#3
Pre-Med Pain.
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
i feel like neither team does this


Probably but Canes could use a sniper
Oct 25, 2020 at 3:32
#4
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This is the best trade for Laine I saw yet
I think it’s fair for both side
The only problem I see is Skjei contract is expensive and got a lot of terms but they could trade him when Heinola or Samberg are ready
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Oct 25, 2020 at 4:26
#5
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Jets don't do this. They need a Pesce or Hamilton with Necas.


I picked Skjei as he is a left shot; another Minnesota player (they seem to like Winnipeg and Winnipeg does well with them). A little more money than Pesce but a little more physical, offensive and durable. Hamilton is the best of the bunch but only one more year until UFA and will either be very costly or may sign elsewhere. Seth Jarvis would be a nice add on, but ideally I think Winnipeg keeps Laine long term!
Oct 25, 2020 at 5:15
#6
Pre-Med Pain.
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Quoting: WpgJts
I picked Skjei as he is a left shot; another Minnesota player (they seem to like Winnipeg and Winnipeg does well with them). A little more money than Pesce but a little more physical, offensive and durable. Hamilton is the best of the bunch but only one more year until UFA and will either be very costly or may sign elsewhere. Seth Jarvis would be a nice add on, but ideally I think Winnipeg keeps Laine long term!


Skjei is brutal.
Oct 25, 2020 at 8:29
#7
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 296
Likes: 82
You’re not going to get a team that pays that much for Laine, certainly not CAR. No way they send 2 yrs of ELC Necas and the ELC years to come with Jarvis only to royally screw their cap situation next year with having to re-sign Svechnikov, Laine and Hamilton.

Am sorry, but if Laine is traded, history tells us the return will be underwhelming.
Oct 25, 2020 at 9:11
#8
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 125
Likes: 27
No idea about this trade, but I do like those two teams as trading partners in terms of a Laine deal.
Oct 25, 2020 at 9:39
#9
Joined: Aug 2020
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Yeah the canes are not doing that deal. No way they move Jarvis or necas. Skjei they would move but asking for both necas and Jarvis is a dead end
Oct 25, 2020 at 11:28
#10
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Quoting: etpeck
Yeah the canes are not doing that deal. No way they move Jarvis or necas. Skjei they would move but asking for both necas and Jarvis is a dead end


Laine is a proven high end talent, he won't be moved unless quality is returned. Taking Skjei contract back even adds more to the value for the Jets. Necas is a pretty sure bet, Jarvis is not but the Jets will need a first round pick from pretty much any offer whether they chose Jarvis or a first round pick from one of the next two drafts would be the decision by the two teams. If Carolina wants Laine and his goals they have to give up someone high end and Necas is probably the best for both parties as Carolina's other big name forwards are not being moved for a strong push this year and next; which would be the point of trading for Laine.
Oct 25, 2020 at 11:43
#11
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Quoting: spockrock
You’re not going to get a team that pays that much for Laine, certainly not CAR. No way they send 2 yrs of ELC Necas and the ELC years to come with Jarvis only to royally screw their cap situation next year with having to re-sign Svechnikov, Laine and Hamilton.

Am sorry, but if Laine is traded, history tells us the return will be underwhelming.


They have 30 million in projected cap space next year. Svechnikov can be bridged if need be as Neiderreiter and Staal are up in the seasons following and will be either let go or re-signed far cheaper. Carolina is in great shape to sign those 3 stars and probably get a real goalie too. Also, unless Laine goes to a whole other level in Carolina I don't see him being any different than Aho salary wise (he won't get Skinner/Pietrangelo/Stone money).
Oct 26, 2020 at 6:53
#12
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Quoting: WpgJts
They have 30 million in projected cap space next year. Svechnikov can be bridged if need be as Neiderreiter and Staal are up in the seasons following and will be either let go or re-signed far cheaper. Carolina is in great shape to sign those 3 stars and probably get a real goalie too. Also, unless Laine goes to a whole other level in Carolina I don't see him being any different than Aho salary wise (he won't get Skinner/Pietrangelo/Stone money).


All that cap space disappears quickly when you have to pay Hamilton $7-8M+, Laine $8M+ and Svechnikov $6-8M+. Oh, and by the way, you have 2 new goalies to sign, plus round out your bottom 6 with the leftovers.

So no, Laine to CAR for 2 players that will contribute on their ELCs in a flat cap environment doesn’t make sense at all for Carolina. You need to temper your expectations if that’s what you’re expecting in return from any team.
 
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