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Sabres avoid arbitration with Reinhart

Initial Creation Date: Oct 25, 2020
Published: Oct 25 at 9:51
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Reinhart, Sam1$5,200,000
Ullmark, Linus2$2,900,000
Pilut, Lawrence3$1,500,000
Olofsson, Victor2$3,000,000
Mittelstadt, Casey2$800,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Raanta, Antti
ARI
  1. Hutton, Carter
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
  2. 2021 5th round pick (BUF)
NJD
  1. Montour, Brandon
  2. 2022 7th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BUF
NJD
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,162,500$1,487,500$4,337,500$2,337,500
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Hall, Taylor
$8,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$3,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$5,200,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C
RFA - 3
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Staal, Eric
$3,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,900,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
$1,500,000
LD
RFA
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
ARI
Raanta, Antti
$4,250,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Rieder, Tobias
$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Borgen, William
$864,166
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Irwin, Matt
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Oct 25 at 9:55
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By the way, this actually happened. Just announced.
Oct 25 at 10:00
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Olofsson is gonna be around 3.75 comparable to the kubalik contract
Oct 25 at 10:01
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Quoting: Asd24
Olofsson is gonna be around 3.75 comparable to the kubalik contract


We shall see
Oct 25 at 10:04
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I can't help but feel like he's not going to be a Sabre long term. The team just seems reluctant to commit to him.
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Oct 25 at 10:09
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Seems pretty pricey for one year, imo.
Oct 25 at 10:11
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Seems pretty pricey for one year, imo.


I disagree, it's less than I thought it would be
Oct 25 at 10:11
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I can't help but feel like he's not going to be a Sabre long term. The team just seems reluctant to commit to him.


Interestingly the team announced it as "center" Sam reinhart. Gotta change my lines
Oct 25 at 10:13
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Another “prove it” deal after his first “prove it” deal. Think we kinda know what he is now, but Buffalo doesn’t seem impressed for some reason? Or he isn’t impressed idk
Oct 25 at 10:17
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Another “prove it” deal after his first “prove it” deal. Think we kinda know what he is now, but Buffalo doesn’t seem impressed for some reason? Or he isn’t impressed idk


They want to kick the can down the road so they can wait for guys like Hutton, Okposo, and Some defenseman are resolved cap wise.
Oct 25 at 10:18
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
Another “prove it” deal after his first “prove it” deal. Think we kinda know what he is now, but Buffalo doesn’t seem impressed for some reason? Or he isn’t impressed idk


Or a global pandemic hit, crippling the economy and with it the entire profit structure of the NHL and the salary cap. One year at a bargain for buffalo, retaining his rights and a chance for the market to reset for Sam. Or he goes to arbitration next year and walks to UFA after next year as a 25 goal 60 point winger in his prime.
Oct 25 at 10:24
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I disagree, it's less than I thought it would be


Ok. I just think you could've had him on a deal with term for not a whole lot more than this. 55-60ish point guy on average over the last 3 years... A 6x6 or something in that area would've seemed reasonable to me. This gives him the chance to earn close to that this year and, if he crushes it, potentially demand a hefty raise next year. Having said that, avoiding arbitration is always good and he probably would've been awarded a bit more than this on a one/two year deal in that process, I just would've preferred a deal with term from the Sabres perspective if the dollar value on a one year was going to be this high.
Oct 25 at 10:55
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Ok. I just think you could've had him on a deal with term for not a whole lot more than this. 55-60ish point guy on average over the last 3 years... A 6x6 or something in that area would've seemed reasonable to me. This gives him the chance to earn close to that this year and, if he crushes it, potentially demand a hefty raise next year. Having said that, avoiding arbitration is always good and he probably would've been awarded a bit more than this on a one/two year deal in that process, I just would've preferred a deal with term from the Sabres perspective if the dollar value on a one year was going to be this high.


If you were Sam would you want a 6x6 deal or 5x1 and then. 8x6 deal after playing with Hall and Eichel for a full season... I would say this is where he is at. Put up some big numbers and ask for more at a time when they are closer to the end of the Covid era
Oct 25 at 10:56
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Or a global pandemic hit, crippling the economy and with it the entire profit structure of the NHL and the salary cap. One year at a bargain for buffalo, retaining his rights and a chance for the market to reset for Sam. Or he goes to arbitration next year and walks to UFA after next year as a 25 goal 60 point winger in his prime.


Perhaps, my assessment was a little short sighted lol. Just I feel like with the Sabres there's finally a bit of a vision coming into focus and I'd hope, if I were a Sabres fan, that he'd be a part of that. Another short term deal would be a little disappointing but if the team and player felt it was what was best, then by all means.....
Oct 25 at 11:04
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Quoting: NYR1983
If you were Sam would you want a 6x6 deal or 5x1 and then. 8x6 deal after playing with Hall and Eichel for a full season... I would say this is where he is at. Put up some big numbers and ask for more at a time when they are closer to the end of the Covid era


I think it was pretty evident that I was looking at this from the Sabres point of view... I even mentioned in my comment the potential benefit of this deal for Reinhart that you pointed out, which is why I wouldn't be a huge fan of the deal from the Sabres perspective.
Oct 25 at 11:11
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
I think it was pretty evident that I was looking at this from the Sabres point of view... I even mentioned in my comment the potential benefit of this deal for Reinhart that you pointed out, which is why I wouldn't be a huge fan of the deal from the Sabres perspective.


It was extremely evident. I was simply explaining why this is the reality so don’t go getting mad bud.
Oct 25 at 12:28
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Quoting: NYR1983
It was extremely evident. I was simply explaining why this is the reality so don’t go getting mad bud.


Ok. It didn't really need explaining, but thanks anyway.
Oct 25 at 12:47
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I can't help but feel like he's not going to be a Sabre long term. The team just seems reluctant to commit to him.


I disagree. He wants to prove himself, that's why he took a 2 year bridge in his last contract. He signed a 1 year deal and probably got less than the arbitrator would have given him. He is still RFA after this new deal and then we'll see where the cap situation is, if it's good lock him up long-term, if not, either a short-term deal or a trade. Adams is doing the right thing giving us max flexibility going forward, Dahlin and Eichel are the cornerstones of this franchise, not Reinhart, as much as I like him
Oct 25 at 3:53
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Quoting: Skyraider112
I disagree. He wants to prove himself, that's why he took a 2 year bridge in his last contract. He signed a 1 year deal and probably got less than the arbitrator would have given him. He is still RFA after this new deal and then we'll see where the cap situation is, if it's good lock him up long-term, if not, either a short-term deal or a trade. Adams is doing the right thing giving us max flexibility going forward, Dahlin and Eichel are the cornerstones of this franchise, not Reinhart, as much as I like him


Idk I just don't think you bridge him again if you're super high on him as a big part of the future. They bridged him after a 50 point season and he followed it up with 65 and 60* point seasons. He's been in Buffalo for half a decade now. They should have a good sense of what he is, and I think if they were huge fans of what he brings they would have locked him up to a long deal this year. You're probably giving him more on a long deal next year than your are this year.
 
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