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Buffalo Sabres signed Sam Reinhart (1 Year / $5,200,000 AAV)

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Oct. 25, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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Will he expire a UFA or RFA?
Oct. 25, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.
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Will he expire a UFA or RFA?


Rfa
Oct. 25, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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The NHL needs to continue the 20 (or 24) team playoff format so loser teams like the Sabres, Sens, Ducks, Wings, Cats, Devils, Oilers, Kings don't have to go one decade in-between playoff appearances.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.
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uhhhh i guess its ight
Oct. 25, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Tired: No one wants to play in Buffalo.

Wired: Sabres made the right financial decision so they can build a competitive team now and use opened cap(Okposo,Hutton,Staal,Hall, etc.) to extend him in a better position next year.


Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
If they signed Reinhart long-term it probably means they couldn't afford to sign Hall and all their RFA's. They have even more cap opening next off-season and can simply extend him next off-season longterm.


If they have the money this season and next offseason as you say then why not a long term deal? Your reasoning makes little sense.

Either way it’s a good aav for a good pkayer and important position to the sabres. Hopefully next season they can ink him to a long term deal.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
If they have the money this season and next offseason as you say then why not a long term deal? Your reasoning makes little sense.

Either way it’s a good aav for a good pkayer and important position to the sabres. Hopefully next season they can ink him to a long term deal.


If they extended him long-term it probably means Hall is priced out. Reinhart would've eaten up $2-3M more on a long term deal and with the other RFA's it's a backbreaker when trying to add Hall at $8M.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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If they extended him long-term it probably means Hall is priced out. Reinhart would've eaten up $2-3M more on a long term deal and with the other RFA's it's a backbreaker when trying to add Hall at $8M.


They have 9m in cap space.,,
Oct. 25, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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Or maybe notsmirk


Reinhart as taken 100 faceoffs per year in avg for a Faceoff % of 36%. On paper he is a center but in reality he is a winger.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.
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They have 9m in cap space.,,


Victor Olofsson, Linus Ullmark, Casey Mittelstadt.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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Reinhart as taken 100 faceoffs per year in avg for a Faceoff % of 36%. On paper he is a center but in reality he is a winger.


Yeah, unfortunate reality.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 3:59 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 25, 2020 at 4:05 p.m.
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Victor Olofsson, Linus Ullmark, Casey Mittelstadt.


Yes... and they have 9m in space. Let’s give reinhart an extra 2m you now have 7.15m, Mitts is due a lower cap hit, but even if you put him in at 1m. Bridge olofsson 3m x 2 sign ulmark for 3m or less. Trim the roster down to 21 and you should have nearly 1m left over.

no time like the present to lock in an important piece like rileinhart.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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He's worth like 600k more on a 7 year deal IMO
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.
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The NHL needs to continue the 20 (or 24) team playoff format so loser teams like the Sabres, Sens, Ducks, Wings, Cats, Devils, Oilers, Kings don't have to go one decade in-between playoff appearances.


No. Most of the teams you mentioned miss the playoffs because of their own failure to put a good team on the ice or fail to properly rebuild. It's on them. Not the NHL
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
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Yes... and they have 9m in space. Let’s give reinhart an extra 2m you now have 7.15m, Mitts is due a lower cap hit, but even if you put him in at 1m. Bridge olofsson 3m x 2 sign ulmark for 3m or less. Trim the roster down to 21 and you should have nearly 1m left over.

no time like the present to lock in an important piece like rileinhart.


Reinhart isn't worth that much... Like at all.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.
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Yes... and they have 9m in space. Let’s give reinhart an extra 2m you now have 7.15m, Mitts is due a lower cap hit, but even if you put him in at 1m. Bridge olofsson 3m x 2 sign ulmark for 3m or less. Trim the roster down to 21 and you should have nearly 1m left over.

no time like the present to lock in an important piece like rileinhart.


Sounds like Ullmark and Olofsson want their bags so idk
Oct. 25, 2020 at 7:42 p.m.
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Bad signing for BUF. He's gonna put up monster numbers next season and then it'll cost the Sabres $8M AAV toileting extend.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 7:57 p.m.
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Very Good move because it gives him a chance to let the numbers play out. Sabres don't get locked into anything crazy and he gets to prove his numbers.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.
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Bad signing for BUF. He's gonna put up monster numbers next season and then it'll cost the Sabres $8M AAV toileting extend.


What a great "auto-correct" -- "toileting"
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Reinhart isn't worth that much... Like at all.


Oh no. This is very incorrect. Reinhart is driving play like crazy. This is exactly the type of player to be better than his numbers.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:32 p.m.
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Oh no. This is very incorrect. Reinhart is driving play like crazy. This is exactly the type of player to be better than his numbers.


Quoting: MelonVK
Oh no. This is very incorrect. Reinhart is driving play like crazy. This is exactly the type of player to be better than his numbers.


Over 7M for a guy who's gotten over 50 points once while mostly on a line with Eichel? Get real...

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Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
Over 7M for a guy who's gotten over 50 points once while mostly on a line with Eichel? Get real...

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He's actually driving a lot of play. He's better than his point totals, unlike a lot of other highly paid players.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:51 p.m.
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He's actually driving a lot of play. He's better than his point totals, unlike a lot of other highly paid players.


My point is he is not worth 7M right now. 6M long term max. He hasn't done anything to make more than that.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:00 p.m.
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My point is he is not worth 7M right now. 6M long term max. He hasn't done anything to make more than that.


He's driven play on a trash team. Points will follow if you're not accompanied by Rasmus Ristolainen, Kyle Okposo and Casey Mittelstadt on the ice. I think 6.75 x 6-7 would be super fair.
Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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He's driven play on a trash team. Points will follow if you're not accompanied by Rasmus Ristolainen, Kyle Okposo and Casey Mittelstadt on the ice. I think 6.75 x 6-7 would be super fair.


I don't buy it, but he signed a one year deal for a reason. If he can't get more points next year then he should not be given more than 6M.
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Oct. 25, 2020 at 11:03 p.m.
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I don't buy it, but he signed a one year deal for a reason. If he can't get more points next year then he should not be given more than 6M.


The problem with your reasoning is that you would think he was worth 8+ million if he played on Tampas first line. There are way more sophisticated methods of evaluating player skill than point totals.
 
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