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CapCrunch

Created by: Abroot
Initial Creation Date: Oct 7, 2020
Published: Oct 25, 2020 at 12:47
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
Just an Idea tho it hurts trading them to division rivals and Im not 100% sure they would waive their NTC for these teams
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cernak, Erik2$2,500,000
Cirelli, Anthony1$3,500,000
Sergachev, Mikhail1$4,000,000
Joseph, Mathieu1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Athanasiou, Andreas1$1,500,000
Alzner, Karl1$850,000
Dotchin, Jake1$800,000
Vanek, Thomas1$1,250,000
Trades
TBL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Driedger, Chris
  2. 2021 5th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Gourde, Yanni
  2. McElhinney, Curtis
Buyouts
  • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
BUF
TBL
FLA
TBL
TBL
NSH
NJD
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2023
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,800,000$0$0$700,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
$5,300,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
$3,500,000
C
RFA - 3
TBL
Killorn, Alex
$4,450,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Goodrow, Barclay
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
Athanasiou, Andreas
$1,500,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
TBL
Coleman, Blake
$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Vanek, Thomas
$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
$1,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
$850,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Cernak, Erik
$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 3
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
FLA
Driedger, Chris
$850,000
G
UFA - 1
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
$4,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Dotchin, Jake
$800,000
RD
UFA
Alzner, Karl
$850,000
LD
UFA

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Oct 25, 2020 at 12:51
#1
Joined: May 2018
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Panthers aren’t helping Tampa unless they give up something of value. Easy pass from them
Oct 25, 2020 at 12:52
#2
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 175
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Add a second and prospect maybe?
Oct 25, 2020 at 12:52
#3
Pre-Med Pain.
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It'll cost a 1st from Buffalo.
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Oct 25, 2020 at 1:14
#4
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 351
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
It'll cost a 1st from Buffalo.


If I'm Buffalo, rather than taking on 4x5M of Johnson's age 30 years, I'd offer Cirelli 4x4.3M and send the 2nd rd pick to TB if they don't match. In general if GM's with the cap space and picks for offer sheets the three RFA's from Tampa don't make the offer sheets they're idiots.
Oct 25, 2020 at 1:23
#5
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,257
Likes: 406
Johnson and Gourde don't waive, and the sweetener's would have to be bigger imo
Oct 25, 2020 at 1:24
#6
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 240
Likes: 27
I think both of those trades are more than fair.
Oct 25, 2020 at 2:09
#7
BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 2,120
Likes: 358
I also think both are fair and realistic .. maybe a little less for Tampa but in ballpark.

And 100% TJ and Gourde take it .. when will fans here realize COVID and flat caps are making NTCs virtually worthless
Oct 25, 2020 at 2:20
#8
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 4,971
Likes: 1,141
You are about 2 million shy on each important RFA contract, even with the short term contract idea.
Oct 25, 2020 at 2:29
#9
Sabres fan
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 1,350
Likes: 621
Buffalo did not take Johnson’s contract when they could’ve had it for free. Why would they give up anything worthwhile to get him now?
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Oct 25, 2020 at 2:47
#10
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 493
Likes: 188
Buffalo cannot afford Johnson's contract. This is a nonstarter unless we're sending money your way (which doesn't work for you) or you seriously, seriously make it worth our while.
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Oct 25, 2020 at 5:19
#11
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 484
Likes: 154
Quoting: RamonDaze
If I'm Buffalo, rather than taking on 4x5M of Johnson's age 30 years, I'd offer Cirelli 4x4.3M and send the 2nd rd pick to TB if they don't match. In general if GM's with the cap space and picks for offer sheets the three RFA's from Tampa don't make the offer sheets they're idiots.


And what do you do when Cirelli says “lol no” to your offer and hangs up?
Oct 26, 2020 at 12:00
#12
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 351
Likes: 55
Quoting: I_Know_Nothing_About_Hockey_Or_Any_Sport2
And what do you do when Cirelli says “lol no” to your offer and hangs up?


This post above has him at 1x3.5M, so 4x4.3M is better than that, no? In real life, typically it's the agents talking and they don't just hang up. This laugh & hang-up thing is a misnomer where people act like contract negotiations work like sports take radio.

Cirelli is an RFA, not a UFA. A 3-4 year deal for him is ideal because it provides some security and still allows him to reach UFA at a young enough age to cash in hopefully when the cap is starting to go up again. I don't think that his value in flat cap is in the 6M range, so 4.3 isn't so low.
 
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