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Top 10 Centers

Created by: EsoYeezus69
Initial Creation Date: Oct 25, 2020
Published: Oct 25, 2020 at 5:49
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
10$999,999,999$82,775,500$0$2,850,000$917,224,499
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
Barzal, Mathew
$9,000,000
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,460,250
C, LW
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender

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Oct 25, 2020 at 7:42
#26
JaredOfLondon
Joined: May 2019
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Quoting: ALjet12
first off I am not a Saber's fan.
second: McDavid has Drasisaitl and Nugenthopkins
Crobsy has Malkin and Guentzel , he had Kessel up until last year
who does Eichel have except for one great season of Skinner two years ago

except Crosby and Mcdavid had 100 point seasons when they didnt have those players, and even when they did have RNH and Malkin they did not play with them singificantly. This linemate stuff is just excuses. Eichel is very good. He is just not Crosby or McDavid good. He's not Mackinnon or Point good. He is not even Matthews good.
Oct 25, 2020 at 7:56
#27
chloewoj
burn the pegulas
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 2,082
Likes: 1,290
Quoting: ALjet12
Dude if he wasn't playing on the Sabers and instead playing on a team like the Leafs or Jets , he would be a 100 point player almost every year. He single handly pulls buffalo through the regular season. we will see how he does with Hall next season. He is elite. There is only two other individuals that can single handly pull a team, which is Crobsy and McDavid.


people who spell it "Sabers" scare me first off and i'm FULLY aware eichel is elite. he's a superstar. it doesn't matter how well he can "pull a team" it matters about the amount of skill the player has. eichel has an insane amount of skill but as a sabres fan i can confidently say crosby has more skill than jack. will jack be better than crosby in the years to come? absolutely. but he's not yet. and if you're asking who eichel has...don't forget about reinhart, olofsson, cozens, and hall
Oct 25, 2020 at 7:58
#28
chloewoj
burn the pegulas
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 2,082
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
except Crosby and Mcdavid had 100 point seasons when they didnt have those players, and even when they did have RNH and Malkin they did not play with them singificantly. This linemate stuff is just excuses. Eichel is very good. He is just not Crosby or McDavid good. He's not Mackinnon or Point good. He is not even Matthews good.


i agreed with everything you said until you had to say "he is not even matthews good" such a freezing cold take
Oct 25, 2020 at 8:00
#29
JaredOfLondon
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 7,781
Likes: 2,701
Quoting: chloewoj
i agreed with everything you said until you had to say "he is not even matthews good" such a freezing cold take


i mean, he's a significantly worse goal scorer, he's worse defensively and about as good a playmaker. Ice cold or not it's true.
Oct 25, 2020 at 8:06
#30
chloewoj
burn the pegulas
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 2,082
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
i mean, he's a significantly worse goal scorer, he's worse defensively and about as good a playmaker. Ice cold or not it's true.


yes matthews is the better goal scorer i can completely agree with that but i simply cannot agree with your statements about matthews being better defensively and being a better playmaker. but obviously you being a leafs fan and me being a sabres fan we're going to disagree every single time ahahah!!!!
Oct 25, 2020 at 8:52
#31
ALjet12
ALjet12
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 948
Likes: 172
Quoting: chloewoj
people who spell it "Sabers" scare me first off and i'm FULLY aware eichel is elite. he's a superstar. it doesn't matter how well he can "pull a team" it matters about the amount of skill the player has. eichel has an insane amount of skill but as a sabres fan i can confidently say crosby has more skill than jack. will jack be better than crosby in the years to come? absolutely. but he's not yet. and if you're asking who eichel has...don't forget about reinhart, olofsson, cozens, and hall


I am evaluating on a past 3 year window because that is where most of the stats of the centers listed above are listed at. How many of these teammates of Eichel are consistent 60+ point players. They are decent not great and you can not count Hall because he has not played a game with Hall yet. For example look at Tavares he was with the isles and only had two 80+ point seasons then went to the Leafs and now is in the upper bracket of centers in the league going back to a point per game pace.
Oct 25, 2020 at 11:00
#32
Copenhagen
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 5,919
Likes: 2,191
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Draisaitl centers RNH and Yamamoto correct?
Thought that was like the best line in hockey.. Lol
Unless the Nuge is the center idk.


Yup exactly.
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Oct 25, 2020 at 11:02
#33
Copenhagen
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 5,919
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he spent most of his time playing with McDavid and when he was with RNH, RNH played C just as much as he did


He played center when he was with McDavid, you need to watch the oilers once in a while. he had double the faceoffs as McDavid 2 years ago while "Not playing center"
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Oct 26, 2020 at 9:27
#34
Pens3lieve
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,762
Likes: 932
Quoting: Penguins21
Mcdavid’s 5th year and has 2 art Ross trophies, 1 Hart Trophy and 2 Ed Lindsay Trophies.

McDavid
SID
MAC
Drasaitl
Matthews


McDavid has skill to score off the rush and scoring trophies.
Crosby has elite playmaking and a complete two-way game + 3 cups.
I still go with Crosby.
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:48
#35
JaredOfLondon
Joined: May 2019
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Quoting: Copenhagen
He played center when he was with McDavid, you need to watch the oilers once in a while. he had double the faceoffs as McDavid 2 years ago while "Not playing center"


Faceoffs does not mean playing center. Lots of wingers take draws then play wing
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:55
#36
CD282
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 13,777
Likes: 4,022
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Draisaitl centers RNH and Yamamoto correct?
Yes

Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Thought that was like the best line in hockey.. Lol
Yes

Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Unless the Nuge is the center idk.
No, LW.
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:57
#37
Copenhagen
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 5,919
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Faceoffs does not mean playing center. Lots of wingers take draws then play wing


Sooooo then Gretzky wasnt a center either?????? Kurri was the center eh.
Oct 26, 2020 at 10:05
#38
CD282
Joined: Mar 2017
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Faceoffs does not mean playing center. Lots of wingers take draws then play wing


Nope. Only 1 or 2 guys do that consistently. Giroux takes more faceoffs than Couterier, and JT Miller takes more faceoffs than Pettersson. (Miller actually played center some of the time, so I'm not sure it counts.)

https://puckbase.com/stats/faceoff-percentage?sort=faceoffs&sort_order=desc
Oct 26, 2020 at 1:58
#39
PGHBOB69
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 454
Quoting: Pens3lieve
McDavid has skill to score off the rush and scoring trophies.
Crosby has elite playmaking and a complete two-way game + 3 cups.
I still go with Crosby.


Yes, but Crosby is older. For their Careers, yes of course. Give McDavid time. Right now, McDavid is the best player in Hockey
 
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