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Created by: Cdn_bacon

Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 16, 2020

Published: Oct. 25, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

1.5M was offered by Oilers as per Jason Gregor

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bear, Ethan		1	$2,500,000
Lagesson, William		1	$765,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kahun, Dominik		1	$1,500,000

Buyouts

Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$80,490,699	$341,534	$730,000	$1,009,301

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 6	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 4
Kahun, Dominik $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Yamamoto, Kailer $894,166$894,166 ($230,000$230K) RW RFA - 1
Neal, James $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Turris, Kyle $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW UFA - 2
Chiasson, Alex $2,150,000$2,150,000 RW UFA - 1	Ennis, Tyler $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000$5,600,000 LD UFA - 2	Bear, Ethan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Jones, Caleb $850,000$850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Larsson, Adam $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 1	Smith, Mike $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($500,000$500K) G NTC UFA - 1
Russell, Kris $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $3,750,000$3,750,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Khaira, Jujhar $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, C UFA - 1		Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD UFA - 3
Haas, Gaëtan $915,000$915,000 C UFA - 1		Nygård, Joakim $875,000$875,000 LW UFA - 1
Lagesson, William $765,000$765,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Oct. 25, 2020 at 8:49 p.m.

draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

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Bear will be in the $4 million range just like R. Andersson and M. Pettersson.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:04 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

Bear will be in the $4 million range just like R. Andersson and M. Pettersson.

Andersson signed a long term contract with the team paying for what he could be. Pettersson signed a 1 year contract for cheap so he could prove he can continue to be the same player. $2.5M for 1 year isn’t bad for Bear. Especially considering how bad it’s been for RFAs without Arb. rights this year.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.

draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

Speaking of Pettersson new deal...heck Dumoulin also of the Pens signed for the $4 mill range.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:19 p.m.

uphere

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Bear is coming off an ELC, Holland has control. If Bear doesn't like the offer, he doesn't play. It's not how any fan would like to see things turn out, but it is what it is. The situation this off season is something neither the player nor the GM wants.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:36 p.m.

Bluetomorrow83

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

Bear will be in the $4 million range just like R. Andersson and M. Pettersson.

lol Bear is getting like ~1Mx1 or 2M or under for 2 years. You clearly have no idea how Holland rolls with his RFAs especially ones with no Arb rights.

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Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:37 p.m.

Bluetomorrow83

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Nygard is already back playing won't be LTIR.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 9:40 p.m.

draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83

lol Bear is getting like ~1Mx1 or 2M or under for 2 years. You clearly have no idea how Holland rolls with his RFAs especially ones with no Arb rights.

$4 + if they wanted to settle long term.

Short term, yes I agree.

Roll the dice and sign him long term would be what I do, remember Nurse and Tony DeAngelo bridge contracts >? Short term relieve ended up causing long term pain.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.

Ryminister_27

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

Pettersson signed a 5 year deal, not a 1 year. Check your facts next time. If you're gonna use those 2 as comparables, Bear gets more term and more money.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:16 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

Speaking of Pettersson new deal...heck Dumoulin also of the Pens signed for the $4 mill range.

Yeah, but he was on his 3rd contract and was coming off being the team’s #1 defenseman for the Stanley Cup champions in the playoffs.

Edit: And there also wasn’t a global recession happening.

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Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.

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Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

Pettersson signed a 5 year deal, not a 1 year. Check your facts next time. If you're gonna use those 2 as comparables, Bear gets more term and more money.

I literally said:
“Pettersson signed a 1 year contract for cheap so he could prove he can continue to be the same player.”

Which is what he did.
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/269956

THEN after that he signed his next contract, and got more money.

Please check your facts next time.

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Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:22 p.m.

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Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83

lol Bear is getting like ~1Mx1 or 2M or under for 2 years. You clearly have no idea how Holland rolls with his RFAs especially ones with no Arb rights.

Exactly. Not to mention the fact that RFAs without arb. are getting even less than usual this year.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.

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ken_holland

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

Bear will be in the $4 million range just like R. Andersson and M. Pettersson.

If there's one thing I'm good at, it's ripping off RFA's with no arb rights

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Oct. 25, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.

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draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

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Quoting: ken_holland

If there's one thing I'm good at, it's ripping off RFA's with no arb rights

hm... A.A. would like to explain that.

Oct. 25, 2020 at 11:04 p.m.

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palhal

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It's a post Covid world now. Bear gets closer to Dermot money 900,000 rather than 4m. How many people thought UFA Hall was getting 9.5m X 7....and he gets "just". 8m X 1.

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Oct. 26, 2020 at 8:26 a.m.

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Ryminister_27

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

Lol. You said he signed a 1 year deal when he signed a 5 year deal. When he signed his 1 year he was nothing. But somehow you try to chirp me? Lol ok.

Oct. 26, 2020 at 8:44 a.m.

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CD282

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

Lol. You said he signed a 1 year deal when he signed a 5 year deal. When he signed his 1 year he was nothing. But somehow you try to chirp me? Lol ok.

Dude, look it up. Coming off his ELC (which is where Bear is right now) Pettersson signed a 1-year, $874,125 deal. The guy even provided a link for you.

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Oct. 26, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

Bear will be in the $4 million range just like R. Andersson and M. Pettersson.

Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

Quoting: uphere

Quoting: Bluetomorrow83

lol Bear is getting like ~1Mx1 or 2M or under for 2 years. You clearly have no idea how Holland rolls with his RFAs especially ones with no Arb rights.

Quoting: Ryminister_27

Pettersson signed a 5 year deal, not a 1 year. Check your facts next time. If you're gonna use those 2 as comparables, Bear gets more term and more money.

Quoting: ken_holland

If there's one thing I'm good at, it's ripping off RFA's with no arb rights

Quoting: palhal

It's a post Covid world now. Bear gets closer to Dermot money 900,000 rather than 4m. How many people thought UFA Hall was getting 9.5m X 7....and he gets "just". 8m X 1.

Russell
20-21: $4M
21-22: $1.25M

My guess for Bear:
20-21: $1.25M
21-22: $4M (with term)

It's cap neutral for Holland and remunerates Ethan fairly. Win-win.

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Oct. 26, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.

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ken_holland

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

hm... A.A. would like to explain that.

Considering AA had just came off a pro-rated 19 goals and 38 points at just 23 years old, he got ripped off for 3M

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