I could see Detroit being interested in one, more so Palat. All really depends on the asking price I’m sure for any team. Palat intrigues me as he’s only 2 years left so he can be flipped rather easy next year and would allow Bert to play on the second line with fellow junior teammate Fabbri. The NTCs will be problematic.

Doubt Killorn returns more then a 3rd round pick, Palat might return a late 1st round pick or Mid 2nd round pick.

I think the only reason Palat would waive his NTC to go to Detroit would be if he trusted Yzerman's plan for DET.

Nashville if they don't get Hoffman, Detroit if Yzerman loves them enough, Columbus, Florida

There is two different questions:

What is their value if they didn't have NTCs and Tampa wasn't in cap hell?
Likely a first for Palat and a second for killorn

In the situation they're in with cap space so tight that a legit first pairing though non stud dman in his prime returned a 3rd (Schmidt)?

They'll take anything they can get

I think there’s a MASSIVE market for both guys. Other people can weigh in but I see atleast 10-15 teams that would be in on either.

Palat has a big market but Killorn is just as close I believe.

Now what I think the problem comes down to is not who has cap space but what happens with Johnson and Gourde.

I think Gourde and Tampa are going to stay together.

Johnson and then Killer or Palat are the trade pieces. If Johnson cannot be moved unfortunately both killer and palat will HAVE to be moved and therefore your returns get worse.

Ideally I’d see Palat for a late first from a team that likely makes the conference finals (put conditions on it being a second/ first)

Killorn honestly I could see returning a second ideally.

Unfortunately you’ll likely only get a 2nd for Palat and a 3rd for Killorn with Johnson becoming an anchor as he just hasn’t moved yet. If it gets into November/ Near December and nothings happened/ Johnson still is stuck I easily could see some real poor returns (not Tampa fault)

Is there rumours they're looking to move these two now?

Again after Schmidt's return who I don't think had an NTC.

If a guy like Palat doesn't waive widely and very few teams have cap space now? I think you get minimal

Yeha we’re on the same page. “Each day their returns get worse” as Tampa’s losing time to get the roster set. I don’t see palat getting more than like a late second; Washington 2nd (a late second by the looks of it), but he’ll get much less in November. Killorn - if I really want him I’d outbid and offer a 3rd which is fair for me even in this market as I’d rather get Killorn than let a rival or someone else get him for dirt cheap

I don't think there's 10-15 teams with cap space to fit either of these guys, I'm sure there's teams that'd be interested but I think there's so few teams with cap space to make it work and dumping cap to fit these guys probably won't be cheap.

NJ, Nashville, LA, Ottawa or Detroit could easily fit one of these guys, not sure who else really could without dumping cap elsewhere, doubt the Sens would have any interest though.

There’s more teams then that I’d say. I mean it all depends on where some other UFA’s go. I’d say there’s 10-15 teams that have check in on them and which teams would make an offer is up for debate as it’d come down to their goal for this season and if they weren’t in on the UFA’s

I'd say there may be a few more for Killorn because the cap hit is lower. I looked and Florida can easily fit Palat too. Who the frontrunners end up being will be effected a lot by pending RFA's. For example Columbus has I think about $12M in cap space but they still have to sign Dubois and Gavrikov which will take up a big portion of that space.

The honest answer here is to list the 20 teams on Palat's list and the 16 teams on Killorn's list.

I think it's highly likely that these guys will have rebuild and non-contenders team on the list, if they didnt.. I feel a trade would have happened already.

The only rebuilding team I could see them going to is Detroit because of Yzerman being the GM

Well unless I'm missing something when I went through all the teams yesterday there really isn't a lot of teams with much cap space left and some of the ones that do have space like Columbus still have RFA'S to sign.

And that is what people on Capfriendly ignore on a regular basis.

Florida is the only that I think you missed.

Again if Detroit wasnt on the list already, I feel a deal would have happened already.

I think its unlikely that Wings are not their lists.


You do know that players have to disclose the lists well ahead of time right?

The only one that would have a list to submit would be Killorn, the other three have full NTC’S, Killorn is the only one with a modified NTC.

Brisebois should of started with Killorn and Palat, trying to move the guy he wanted to in Johnson was a mistake.

My bad, thanks for point that out.
Unlikely Palat is moved IMO.

I knew I was forgetting a team.. Lol

And really if the rumors of Florida having an internal cap are true idk how much they'd be interested in either of these guys, depends on how their contracts are structured though I guess, haven't looked that up.

If he started working on Palat right away who knows, maybe the Avs would've been interested and they acquire Palat rather the Saad.

Teams might be interested in Palat, but I don’t think Palat would be interested in the teams.

I believe Palat has a full NTC. Not 20 team list

If they can't convince three or 4 of Palat, Johnson, Gourde and Killorn to waive enough to trade them AND find takers they would have to do a buyout (don't know if it's possible anymore) or move their RFAs.