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Created by: Campabee
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 27, 2020
Published: Oct. 27, 2020
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Description
our organizational depth is lacking at RHD prospects and LW prospects so the trades add one prospect at each position and save us some cap for next offseason.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Ratcliffe, Isaac
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Tatar, Tomas
Additional Details:
Rental only.
2.
MTL
  1. Benning, Michael [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 4th round pick (FLA)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$70,816,309$0$3,137,500$10,683,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$735,000$735,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Oct. 27, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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Take out Ratcliffe
Oct. 27, 2020 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Take out Ratcliffe


Then add a 1st! Tatar is good enough to get a 2nd and A+ prospect as a rental for a contending team like Philly.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.
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Then add a 1st! Tatar is good enough to get a 2nd and A+ prospect as a rental for a contending team like Philly.


I disagree. All I’d pay for Tatar is a second. A first and second is pretty ridiculous.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 1:56 p.m.
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our organization may not have enough Right D prospects, but there is a good reason for that. Weber and Petry are signed for a long time. that leaves only 1 spot for the right handed prospects/players we have. and thats Juulsen, Fluery, Brook. Mete does play right D, but I won't include him for arguments sake.
as for LW prospects, we have an insane amount of LW prospects. Caufield, Tuch, Farrell, Teasedale, Gorniak and more. in the nhl leve, we have Drouin, Lehkonen, Byron, with toffoli able to play LW as well. the habs have enough depth in all positions among their prospects. now if you're referring to elite prospects, those are hard to get. they don't have an elite prospect at rhd or LW, but both those positions are covered for a long time at the nhl level.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
I disagree. All I’d pay for Tatar is a second. A first and second is pretty ridiculous.


tatar just had back to back seasons of 58pts and 61pts and all you want to give is a 2nd? he will fetch more than that.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
I disagree. All I’d pay for Tatar is a second. A first and second is pretty ridiculous.


I think your forgetting that as a rental this year it is for an entire years worth of hockey not just from the deadline on. Having Tatar allows the Flyers to line up something like

Voracek-Couturier-Konecny
Tatar/Lindblom-Giroux-Raffl
Lindblom/Tatar-Hayes-Aube-kubel
JVR-Laughton-Farabee

their three best players become their top 3 centers filling the hole at 3C
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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our organization may not have enough Right D prospects, but there is a good reason for that. Weber and Petry are signed for a long time. that leaves only 1 spot for the right handed prospects/players we have. and thats Juulsen, Fluery, Brook. Mete does play right D, but I won't include him for arguments sake.
as for LW prospects, we have an insane amount of LW prospects. Caufield, Tuch, Farrell, Teasedale, Gorniak and more. in the nhl leve, we have Drouin, Lehkonen, Byron, with toffoli able to play LW as well. the habs have enough depth in all positions among their prospects. now if you're referring to elite prospects, those are hard to get. they don't have an elite prospect at rhd or LW, but both those positions are covered for a long time at the nhl level.


Juulsen or fleury are perfect for that last RD spot they will battle it out.they don't need a 5 foot 9 D either...
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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our organization may not have enough Right D prospects, but there is a good reason for that. Weber and Petry are signed for a long time. that leaves only 1 spot for the right handed prospects/players we have. and thats Juulsen, Fluery, Brook. Mete does play right D, but I won't include him for arguments sake.
as for LW prospects, we have an insane amount of LW prospects. Caufield, Tuch, Farrell, Teasedale, Gorniak and more. in the nhl leve, we have Drouin, Lehkonen, Byron, with toffoli able to play LW as well. the habs have enough depth in all positions among their prospects. now if you're referring to elite prospects, those are hard to get. they don't have an elite prospect at rhd or LW, but both those positions are covered for a long time at the nhl level.


The chances of Weber playing out that contract are really low. He is one more significant injury from retirement IMO

Caufield is a RW not a LW (I know that CapFriendly has him listed as a LW but I don't think he has played enough LW to be considered a LW) and the drop off from him to Tuch is significant.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
The chances of Weber playing out that contract are really low. He is one more significant injury from retirement IMO

Caufield is a RW not a LW (I know that CapFriendly has him listed as a LW but I don't think he has played enough LW to be considered a LW) and the drop off from him to Tuch is significant.


he has about 7 years on his contract. so the habs have the ability to draft 7 more times over the next 7 years, im not worried about out prospect depth. again, we have enough wingers signed. plus, some wingers are capable of playing both sides.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I think your forgetting that as a rental this year it is for an entire years worth of hockey not just from the deadline on. Having Tatar allows the Flyers to line up something like

Voracek-Couturier-Konecny
Tatar/Lindblom-Giroux-Raffl
Lindblom/Tatar-Hayes-Aube-kubel
JVR-Laughton-Farabee

their three best players become their top 3 centers filling the hole at 3C


We should probably ask some flyers fans
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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he has about 7 years on his contract. so the habs have the ability to draft 7 more times over the next 7 years, im not worried about out prospect depth. again, we have enough wingers signed. plus, some wingers are capable of playing both sides.


how many of those wingers are 6'5" 194lbs and put up 50 goals on Suzuki's wing 2 years ago?
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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how many of those wingers are 6'5" 194lbs and put up 50 goals on Suzuki's wing 2 years ago?


not once did I mention anything about the trade lol. you're trying to justify the trade with the lack of depth, but those don't equate. the trade makes no sense from a philly stand point. philly doesn't need tatar. esp at that price. philly's gonna keep thier prospects and let them grow with the team.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
I disagree. All I’d pay for Tatar is a second. A first and second is pretty ridiculous.


He is a 65pts player, on a cheap rental contract -> on any metric or comparison, he is worth a first and a B+ to A prospect.

Granted you may not like Tatar, but he is worth way more than a 2nd pick.
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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not once did I mention anything about the trade lol. you're trying to justify the trade with the lack of depth, but those don't equate. the trade makes no sense from a philly stand point. philly doesn't need tatar. esp at that price. philly's gonna keep thier prospects and let them grow with the team.


My apologies I thought you were debating the validity of the trade. Your right the Flyers don't NEED Tatar but I am sure like every other contending team they wouldn't mind getting him.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
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Flyers add a 1st
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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My apologies I thought you were debating the validity of the trade. Your right the Flyers don't NEED Tatar but I am sure like every other contending team they wouldn't mind getting him.


they won't trade one of their top prospects for him. they'll trade a 1st. sure. and a B level prospect.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
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nononononononononono
Benning will be legendary, just you wait
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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Benning will be legendary, just you wait


yeah I wasn't sure if it would be enough but with Bob and Hubby plus the loss of Dadanov I think Florida will want good roster players back to help them compete right now.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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yeah I wasn't sure if it would be enough but with Bob and Hubby plus the loss of Dadanov I think Florida will want good roster players back to help them compete right now.


Dw man, I am just really high on Benning (as you can see from my PFP and my quote...)
Also, our defense will probably need some help soon, as Yandle is getting old and we have a lot of depth guys, so we're banking on one of our D prospects to really turn out.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:05 p.m.
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Dw man, I am just really high on Benning (as you can see from my PFP and my quote...)
Also, our defense will probably need some help soon, as Yandle is getting old and we have a lot of depth guys, so we're banking on one of our D prospects to really turn out.


I also like Benning he seems like a very worth while gamble even though he is on the small side lol.
 
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