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Created by: TonyInBuffalo
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 27, 2020
Published: Oct. 27, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Help Arizona, Solve log-jam in Calgary, Little help from Kings
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,250,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. 2022 4th round pick (BUF)
2.
ARI
  1. Fitzgerald, Casey
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
3.
BUF
  1. 2022 6th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Okposo, Kyle ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
  3. 2023 5th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$71,177,501$1,487,500$4,337,500$10,322,499
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 4
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 27, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
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You'd have to pay the Kings to take Okposo, even at 50% retention.
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.
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You're probably right. Its more-so if they even take him at all.
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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Calgary laughs and hangs up
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: NeverEndingMisery
Calgary laughs and hangs up


They've been actively trying to trade him. Your Gm went as far as saying this won't be the roster we enter camp with. You have a plethora of LD and abysmal RD. Take Montour then if you want less term, but something has got-to-give on that blueline.
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
You're probably right. Its more-so if they even take him at all.


Yup the standard rate for that type of situation is a 1st and 2nd round pick it's quite steep but reasonably
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: NeverEndingMisery
Calgary laughs and hangs up


Not trying to be patronizing to OP but we should all be more welcoming to people just starting to post here... it's definitely overwhelming and tricky early on

More posters the merrier too

👍
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
You're probably right. Its more-so if they even take him at all.


I could see them doing it for a 2nd
Oct. 27, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
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Its gonna cost a lot more than that to get rid of Okposo
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
They've been actively trying to trade him. Your Gm went as far as saying this won't be the roster we enter camp with. You have a plethora of LD and abysmal RD. Take Montour then if you want less term, but something has got-to-give on that blueline.


What? Literally none of that is true
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:27 p.m.
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Not the worst Raanta proposal. I don’t know enough about Fitzgerald’s prospect pedigree but the 3rd rounder is a decent return in itself. I get the feeling that the coyotes are going to roll with Raanta and Keumper again this year and try and flip one at the TDL, but I’d take this deal
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
They've been actively trying to trade him. Your Gm went as far as saying this won't be the roster we enter camp with. You have a plethora of LD and abysmal RD. Take Montour then if you want less term, but something has got-to-give on that blueline.


Flames will do this right after Buffalo sends Calgary Jokiharju for Klington and 4th. You know to help with Buffalos log jam on the right side.

It needs to make sense for both teams.

This does not.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What? Literally none of that is true


Sportsnet Oct 16, 2020 article. Brad Treliving, post-Mangiapane deal, "We're not done" ...... "We don't expect this is the team we go to training camp with."
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: SAS
Flames will do this right after Buffalo sends Calgary Jokiharju for Klington and 4th. You know to help with Buffalos log jam on the right side.

It needs to make sense for both teams.

This does not.
The sense that I made of it is Hanifin, Lindholm and Bennett have continued to be talked in rumors (per Elliot Friedman), and Treliving wants to shake up core after another disappointing playoffs for them (wish the Sabres got that far). This does that, gives you a pick, and gives you another 1 mill in cap space to make another move if so be it.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
Sportsnet Oct 16, 2020 article. Brad Treliving, post-Mangiapane deal, "We're not done" ...... "We don't expect this is the team we go to training camp with."


Since then he has signed multiple solid UFA's. Brad has also said he fully intends on keeping the young d-core together. We also have a better top 4 RD than Buffalo so idk how you can call it abysmal.
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:54 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
The sense that I made of it is Hanifin, Lindholm and Bennett have continued to be talked in rumors (per Elliot Friedman), and Treliving wants to shake up core after another disappointing playoffs for them (wish the Sabres got that far). This does that, gives you a pick, and gives you another 1 mill in cap space to make another move if so be it.


That fact that you said Lindholm has been in rumors shows you know nothing, besides Tkachuk he is the most untouchable player on the entire roster
Oct. 27, 2020 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
The sense that I made of it is Hanifin, Lindholm and Bennett have continued to be talked in rumors (per Elliot Friedman), and Treliving wants to shake up core after another disappointing playoffs for them (wish the Sabres got that far). This does that, gives you a pick, and gives you another 1 mill in cap space to make another move if so be it.


Trading Hanafin for scraps was not part of the conversation.

If the Flames are going to shake up the core they are going to want a core or potential core piece back. Miller and a 4th ain't close.

The value is all wrong.
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Oct. 27, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That fact that you said Lindholm has been in rumors shows you know nothing, besides Tkachuk he is the most untouchable player on the entire roster


I'm literally citing my sources. I was wrong to say abysmal, more-or-less unsolidified. I like your team a lot, but I think a deal is coming. Unless you're completely happy with your roster, where do you think Calgary adds to the team?
Oct. 27, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
Not trying to be patronizing to OP but we should all be more welcoming to people just starting to post here... it's definitely overwhelming and tricky early on

More posters the merrier too

👍


Agreed!
Oct. 27, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
They've been actively trying to trade him. Your Gm went as far as saying this won't be the roster we enter camp with. You have a plethora of LD and abysmal RD. Take Montour then if you want less term, but something has got-to-give on that blueline.


I personally don't see why "something has got-to-give on that blueline". Gio, Hanifin and Valimaki will be on the Left side with Tanev, Andersson, and Nesterov/kylington (Lefties who have openly stated they are comfortable on the right side)
Plus with gio getting up there in age they arent in a position to be throwing lefties away for pennies on the dollar.
Oct. 28, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
You'd have to pay the Kings to take Okposo, even at 50% retention.


Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
You're probably right. Its more-so if they even take him at all.


Quoting: NeverEndingMisery
Calgary laughs and hangs up


Quoting: Radu47
Yup the standard rate for that type of situation is a 1st and 2nd round pick it's quite steep but reasonably


Quoting: earl08
I could see them doing it for a 2nd


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Its gonna cost a lot more than that to get rid of Okposo


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What? Literally none of that is true


Quoting: desertdog111
Not the worst Raanta proposal. I don’t know enough about Fitzgerald’s prospect pedigree but the 3rd rounder is a decent return in itself. I get the feeling that the coyotes are going to roll with Raanta and Keumper again this year and try and flip one at the TDL, but I’d take this deal


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Flames will do this right after Buffalo sends Calgary Jokiharju for Klington and 4th. You know to help with Buffalos log jam on the right side.

It needs to make sense for both teams.

This does not.


Quoting: SAS
Trading Hanafin for scraps was not part of the conversation.

If the Flames are going to shake up the core they are going to want a core or potential core piece back. Miller and a 4th ain't close.

The value is all wrong.


Quoting: NeverEndingMisery
Agreed!


Read the title, these are Christmas presents to the Buffalo Sabres.
HO! HO! HO!
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Oct. 28, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Its gonna cost a lot more than that to get rid of Okposo


I completely disagree. At this point in his career, Okposo is a player that I would be fine with paying 2 million. A 2nd which is included is worth more than 1 million in cap Above a serviceable players value.
Oct. 28, 2020 at 7:45 p.m.
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I completely disagree. At this point in his career, Okposo is a player that I would be fine with paying 2 million. A 2nd which is included is worth more than 1 million in cap Above a serviceable players value.


Ok. Youre wrong. Staal for 1 year at a cap hit of 5.7 cost a 2nd.

Its the cap hit that's the problem, especially with the way the cap is suppose to remain flat or near flat.
Oct. 28, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Ok. Youre wrong. Staal for 1 year at a cap hit of 5.7 cost a 2nd.

Its the cap hit that's the problem, especially with the way the cap is suppose to remain flat or near flat.


Not that I think this trade is a great idea, but Staal is a legitimately terrible player. Okposo has carved out a solid role as a 3rd or 4th line power winger and is probably worth $2M or so in a normal market. So that's not quite a fair comparison.
Oct. 28, 2020 at 9:01 p.m.
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Not that I think this trade is a great idea, but Staal is a legitimately terrible player. Okposo has carved out a solid role as a 3rd or 4th line power winger and is probably worth $2M or so in a normal market. So that's not quite a fair comparison.


Okposo is also legitimately terrible player.
Oct. 28, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Okposo is also legitimately terrible player.


He really isn't. He's been pretty damn good in his role, and his shot suppression metrics are right up there with Larsson who Sabres fans love.

If he was signed to a $2M AAV contract, people would absolutely love him.
 
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