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Selling the RFAs

Created by: justaBoss
Initial Creation Date: Oct 27, 2020
Published: Oct 27 at 2:47
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
That'd be the most frustrating way to deal with this but it's also an option.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cernak, Erik2$2,250,000
Volkov, Alexander1$874,125
Joseph, Mathieu2$737,500
Masin, Dominik1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Grabner, Michael1$700,000
Trades
TBL
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel
  2. 2021 1st round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
TOP5 protected pick - if a TOP5 pick, Tampa receives unprotected 2022 1st round pick.
LAK
  1. Sergachev, Mikhail [RFA Rights]
TBL
  1. Dumba, Matt ($3,000,000 retained)
MIN
  1. Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]
TBL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Killorn, Alex
  2. Coburn, Braydon
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (TBL)
  4. 2021 7th round pick (NSH)
TBL
  1. Djoos, Christian
ANA
  1. Paquette, Cédric
Buyouts
  • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TBL
LAK
NSH
NSH
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
NJD
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2023
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,184,958$0$1,350,000$315,042
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
$5,300,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
LAK
Vilardi, Gabriel
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000
LW, C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Goodrow, Barclay
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
$5,166,666
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Coleman, Blake
$1,800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
$900,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Stephens, Mitchell
$737,500
C
RFA - 2
Grabner, Michael
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Cernak, Erik
$2,250,000
RD
RFA
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
ANA
Djoos, Christian
$1,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
TBL
Foote, Cal
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TBL
Volkov, Alexander
$874,125
LW, RW
RFA
TBL
Schenn, Luke
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
$737,500
LW, RW
RFA

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Oct 27 at 2:49
#1
BobbyRyanSenator4Lyf
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or they just get offersheeted for half the price
Oct 27 at 2:50
#2
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leafs will take cernak off your hands for one signed St. Pats jersey and marty marincin
Oct 27 at 2:52
#3
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Lottery protect the 1st round pick and change the prospect from Vilardi to Turcotte and the Kings might consider it. As listed, the Kings decline.
Oct 27 at 2:52
#4
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I really like Vilardi as a player, but is he really a fit in Tampa given his lack of speed?
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Oct 27 at 2:56
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A 2C and likely Calder finalist in Vilardi AND a 2021 1st for Sergachev? Kings decline that in a heartbeat.
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Oct 27 at 2:56
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Lottery protect the 1st round pick and change the prospect from Vilardi to Turcotte and the Kings might consider it. As listed, the Kings decline.


Turcotte is a top 10 prospect
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Oct 27 at 3:05
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Quoting: Canucks33
I really like Vilardi as a player, but is he really a fit in Tampa given his lack of speed?


Idk I mean Killorn fit with a similar skillset
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Oct 27 at 3:07
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
A 2C and likely Calder finalist in Vilardi AND a 2021 1st for Sergachev? Kings decline that in a heartbeat.


Likely Calder finalist gosh maybe

Funny that he and Mittelstadt had almost the same AHL scoring rate last season idk just remarking
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Oct 27 at 3:09
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Yeah lol the kings arent giving up a first. They are still deep in rebuild, that pick will be top 10 at the least
Oct 27 at 3:40
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Quoting: Borocop
or they just get offersheeted for half the price


They won't. Offer sheets aren't happening. If they were we would've already seen some.
Oct 27 at 3:40
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Lottery protect the 1st round pick and change the prospect from Vilardi to Turcotte and the Kings might consider it. As listed, the Kings decline.


Turcotte's interesting but lottery protection isn't going to work. I'd be willing to shift it to TOP10 protection though.
Oct 27 at 3:41
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
A 2C and likely Calder finalist in Vilardi AND a 2021 1st for Sergachev? Kings decline that in a heartbeat.


Well to be fair with Stammer as his wing he likely could be a calder finalist.

In the Kings team - no. There's no firepower to carry the guy and I don't see him being good enough to carry his whole line as of yet.
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Oct 27 at 3:42
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Quoting: papishark
Yeah lol the kings arent giving up a first. They are still deep in rebuild, that pick will be top 10 at the least


I mean it's not like Sergy is a bad asset for them. He's young and most likely better than any of the prospects they'd draft TOP10. And as said, it's a TOP5 protected pick.
Oct 27 at 3:45
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Quoting: justaBoss
They won't. Offer sheets aren't happening. If they were we would've already seen some.


This is still way too much, vilardi for sergachev straight up maybe
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Oct 27 at 3:50
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Quoting: Borocop
This is still way too much, vilardi for sergachev straight up maybe


Nah man. There's only one year age difference between the two, yet Sergachev is already an established TOP4 D with elite ceiling while Vilardi's still but a rookie.

Tampa could do a lot better than that.
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Oct 27 at 3:54
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Quoting: justaBoss
Well to be fair with Stammer as his wing he likely could be a calder finalist.

In the Kings team - no. There's no firepower to carry the guy and I don't see him being good enough to carry his whole line as of yet.


He got 7 points in his first 10 NHL games also scored the fastest 1st NHL goal ever scored all with Kempe and Frk as his linemates. Nice try though
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Oct 27 at 3:57
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
He got 7 points in his first 10 NHL games also scored the fastest 1st NHL goal ever scored all with Kempe and Frk as his linemates. Nice try though


Impressive first 10 games. Sadly means nothing though until the next year begins.

I'm no betting man, but I wager his statistics WOULD take a step up playing with Stammer over Kempe and Frk...
Oct 27 at 3:58
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Quoting: justaBoss
Turcotte's interesting but lottery protection isn't going to work. I'd be willing to shift it to TOP10 protection though.


Turcotte would essentially be your lottery pick, as he's the #5 overall from last year. If you want Turcotte and a 1st, it would need to have full lottery protection. If you're willing to take a lesser prospect like Kupari or Thomas, then the Kings could relax the requirements to top 5 protection.
Oct 27 at 4:00
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Turcotte would essentially be your lottery pick, as he's the #5 overall from last year. If you want Turcotte and a 1st, it would need to have full lottery protection. If you're willing to take a lesser prospect like Kupari or Thomas, then the Kings could relax the requirements to top 5 protection.


I'd rather take Turcotte and that lottery protected 1st. At least it's almost guaranteed they're getting a TOP6 asset there...I'm not that trusting in Kupari or Thomas, and the 2021 draft pool is comparably weaker.
Oct 27 at 4:08
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NSH appears to be done adding players, but I could see them making room for Killorn if he comes cheap enough. This isn't cheap enough though, and the Preds don't have any room for Coburn.
Oct 27 at 4:17
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Quoting: justaBoss
I'd rather take Turcotte and that lottery protected 1st. At least it's almost guaranteed they're getting a TOP6 asset there...I'm not that trusting in Kupari or Thomas, and the 2021 draft pool is comparably weaker.


Then I think the Kings would at least consider that.
Oct 27 at 4:37
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Quoting: justaBoss
Impressive first 10 games. Sadly means nothing though until the next year begins.

I'm no betting man, but I wager his statistics WOULD take a step up playing with Stammer over Kempe and Frk...


Remember that habs prospect Ryan Poehling scored 3 in his first game, then disappeared.
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Oct 27 at 4:42
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Quoting: justaBoss
Impressive first 10 games. Sadly means nothing though until the next year begins.

I'm no betting man, but I wager his statistics WOULD take a step up playing with Stammer over Kempe and Frk...


Those 10 games mean nothing? When teams are harder to play against because they are fighting for the playoffs.

I guess you'll just have to see... i mean look at your computer because that's all you do when evaluating players lol.

Kings aren't trading for Sergachev and they certainly aren't giving up Vilardi.
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Oct 27 at 4:42
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Remember that habs prospect Ryan Poehling scored 3 in his first game, then disappeared.


That actually crossed my mind as well.
Oct 27 at 4:44
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
Those 10 games mean nothing? When teams are harder to play against because they are fighting for the playoffs.

I guess you'll just have to see... i mean look at your computer because that's all you do when evaluating players lol.

Kings aren't trading for Sergachev and they certainly aren't giving up Vilardi.


Those 10 games don't mean much the next year.

And yeah I'm not denying that computer is the main tool for searching hockey data.
 
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