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One overrated player per team

Initial Creation Date: Oct 28, 2020
Published: Oct 28 at 10:41
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Team Explanation
On Rakell: everyone seems to think he's an elite or close to that level scorer but in fact he's a 2nd liner
On Kessel: his role is a 2nd line one
On Kase: he just sucks, and is actually a great proof of why analytics don't tell the full story
On Hall: he's not a 80 pts player, he's a 70 pts player
On Gaudreau: he can't carry a team IMO, not when it matters anyway. Tkachuk should be the main guy in CGY, not Gaudreau
On Trockeck: it's time to stop thinking about him as an excellent 2C and we need to start seeing the truth: he's just an average 2C
On Kubalik: he's not the vest invention since sliced bread ok? Very good player yes but he still plays with guys who can drive plays in an elite way, Toews and Kane
On Makar: look, I love the guy, he really is an elite PP quarterback, but he needs to improve his defense before we start including him in top 10 d-men rankings
On Korpisalo: he's great but really his number have to be boosted by CLB's defensive system
On Seguin: he isn't exactly close to making Team Canada IMO, not even sure if he's a top 20 center in the league
On Mantha: he isn't worth the world ok?
On Draisaitl: one of the worst defensive players in the league, he shouldn't have won the Hart and isn't a top 15 centers when it comes to the overall game
On Barkov: he's great but isn't even the best on his team
I couldn't find anyone for LA
On DUmba: he isn't anything more than number 3 d-man
On Tatar: he isn't a top liner, I think his playoff performance showed us that he's just an average 2nd liner
On Duchene: nuff said
I couldn't come up with anyone for NJ, since PK isn't overrated anymore, everyone knows he's a bottom pairing d-man (I'd even argue he's not NHL caliber but that's just me)
On Varlamov: he's a good goalie for sure, but the defensive structure in NYI helps him a lot
On NYR: Kreider could be overrated in 2 years but not now. You could make a case for ADA too.
On Murray: he's not a true starter
On Giroux: dude's not consistent
On DUmoulin: he's very good but not an elite defensive d-man, as I've sen some PIT fans call him. IMO Marino torches him
I honestly don't know who to pick for SJ
On Krug: he's not a very good player, he's only a very good PP player
On Kucherov: I think people overrate him because they see him as TB's best F, when their best F is Point
On Marner: until he shows he can play with the fire he had in the 2018-19 season on a consistent basis he's overrated. Sorry
on Boeser: IMO the presence of EP/Horvat helps him more than we'd like to admit
On Pacioretty: just a terrible playoff performer. He's not a 1st liner when playoff time comes
On Carlson: he shouldn't have been nominated for the Norris. Terrible at defense. Nuff said
On Connor: IMO he's worse than Scheifele and Ehlers who, IMO, play much better 200 foot game than he does
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$162,356,134$0$2,500,000-$80,856,134
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Hall, Taylor
$8,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
$3,789,444
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
ARI
Kessel, Phil
$6,800,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
CAR
Trocheck, Vincent
$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
BOS
Kase, Ondrej
$2,600,000
RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$3,700,000
LW
RFA - 2
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
Mantha, Anthony
$700,000
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
FLA
Barkov, Aleksander
$5,900,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 5
VGK
Pacioretty, Max
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
NSH
Duchene, Matt
$8,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
VAN
Boeser, Brock
$5,875,000
RW
RFA - 2
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 1
CBJ
Korpisalo, Joonas
$2,800,000
G
UFA - 2
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
OTT
Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
UFA - 4
STL
Krug, Torey
$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
WSH
Carlson, John
$8,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6

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Oct 28 at 10:42
#1
Banned
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imo tavares is more overrated then marner
Oct 28 at 10:43
#2
Stop Trading Marner
Joined: Feb 2020
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Likes: 729
Marner isnt overrated, Holl is.

Marner's contract is overrated
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Oct 28 at 10:44
#3
Wiliam Eklund to NYR
Joined: Oct 2018
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Likes: 4,269
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Oct 28 at 10:45
#4
Go Jets Go
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As a Jets fan, I'm just going to speak to Kyle Connor. I have to disagree with the sense that he's overrated. I agree with your statement that Scheifele and Ehlers play a much better 200 foot game, but I don't think that makes Connor overrated. He has 3 back to back to back 30+ goal seasons and would have reached 40+ this year had it not been cut short (38 goals). I think he deserves much of his praise although I agree he needs to improve his defensive game,
Oct 28 at 10:46
#5
Go Canada
Joined: Apr 2020
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Likes: 1,374
Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Marner isnt overrated, Holl is.

Marner's contract is overrated


Holl isn’t overrated. People act like he’s a 3rd pairing guy.
Oct 28 at 10:47
#6
Stop Trading Marner
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 729
Quoting: Saskleaf
Holl isn’t overrated. People act like he’s a 3rd pairing guy.


he is
Oct 28 at 10:47
#7
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Likes: 54
Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Marner isnt overrated, Holl is.

Marner's contract is overrated


holl isnt overated hes a decent def3nceman
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Oct 28 at 10:48
#8
Had a 11.5 chance
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 158
Likes: 66
Edited Oct 28 at 11:00
why does Leons defensive game matter when he puts up 50 goals and over 100 points, and the most overrated leaf is Nylander, but 100% agree with Kucherov most overrated player in the league 75-85 guy who plays on a crazy good team. and leon not being a 15 centre what are you talking about he is a top 5 player in the league
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Oct 28 at 10:49
#9
Canes Baby
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 3,837
Likes: 1,090
Quoting: oilersguy
why does Leons defensive game matter when he puts up 50 goals and over 100 points, and the most overrated leaf is Nylander, but 100% agree with Kucherov most overrated player in the league 75-85 guy who plays on a crazy good team.


Agreed here. How can you say a guy who led the league by more than 10 points, isnt top 15 at his position?
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Oct 28 at 10:49
#10
Thread Starter
FireDougWilson
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 9,209
Likes: 3,633
Quoting: MichaelSimonetta_97
holl isnt overated hes a decent def3nceman


Barely a number 6 IMO
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Oct 28 at 10:52
#11
Had a 11.5 chance
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 158
Likes: 66
Quoting: Saskleaf
Holl isn’t overrated. People act like he’s a 3rd pairing guy.


Quoting: MitchMarner_16
he is


Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Marner isnt overrated, Holl is.

you are all wrong the most overrated leaf is Nylander, to some extent every leaf is overrated, like when jumbo joe signed the media acted like it it was the best thing ever and constantly praised them for there moves

Marner's contract is overrated
Oct 28 at 10:53
#12
Wiliam Eklund to NYR
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Quoting: oilersguy
why does Leons defensive game matter when he puts up 50 goals and over 100 points, and the most overrated leaf is Nylander, but 100% agree with Kucherov most overrated player in the league 75-85 guy who plays on a crazy good team.


Nylander is underrated.

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Oct 28 at 10:53
#13
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Overating kucherov doesn't seem possible. Dudes ridiculous
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Oct 28 at 10:54
#14
Had a 11.5 chance
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your are all wrong the most overrated leaf is Nylander, to some extent every leaf is overrated, like when jumbo joe signed the media acted like it it was the best thing ever and constantly praised them for their moves
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Oct 28 at 10:57
#15
Had a 11.5 chance
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Nylander is underrated.

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if Nylander was on any other team he would be considered and ok 2 line guy
Oct 28 at 10:57
#16
Joined: Aug 2019
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Likes: 720
marner isnt overrated, had exact same point projection, his contract is 1.5 too much thats it
Oct 28 at 10:58
#17
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Quoting: oilersguy
your are all wrong the most overrated leaf is Nylander, to some extent every leaf is overrated, like when jumbo joe signed the media acted like it it was the best thing ever and constantly praised them for their moves


LMAO from an Oilers fan, an OILERS FAN!!
Oct 28 at 11:00
#18
Joined: Aug 2019
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Likes: 720
having barkov, kuch and seguin makes this list a joke
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Oct 28 at 11:00
#19
Wiliam Eklund to NYR
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Quoting: oilersguy
if Nylander was on any other team he would be considered and ok 2 line guy


More so a 1st line guy. He scored 30x60 and has good analytics. Better defensively this year.
Oct 28 at 11:01
#20
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Quoting: oilersguy
why does Leons defensive game matter when he puts up 50 goals and over 100 points, and the most overrated leaf is Nylander, but 100% agree with Kucherov most overrated player in the league 75-85 guy who plays on a crazy good team. and leon not being a 15 centre what are you talking about he is a top 5 player in the league


so dumb
Oct 28 at 11:02
#21
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couldnt find anyone for LA? ummmmmm drew doughty?
Oct 28 at 11:03
#22
Sabres are elite
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I think the way the media talks about Hall yes he's overrated, he isn't a superstar. He is however a very elite player.
Oct 28 at 11:04
#23
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Quoting: Skyraider112
I think the way the media talks about Hall yes he's overrated, he isn't a superstar. He is however a very elite player.


if hes elite than your really expanding the definition of elite
Oct 28 at 11:04
#24
Lenny7
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I mean, a case could be made for 75% of these guys that they're not actually overrated, but that seems a bit time consuming...

Instead, I love how you ripped apart 27 guys, and when you got to the Rangers, you were like "Meh, Kreider and ADA *might* be overrated in a couple of years, but we gooooood"

Georgiev. Georgiev. Georgiev.
Oct 28 at 11:05
#25
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Quoting: Lenny7
I mean, a case could be made for 75% of these guys that they're not actually overrated, but that seems a bit time consuming...

Instead, I love how you ripped apart 27 guys, and when you got to the Rangers, you were like "Meh, Kreider and ADA *might* be overrated in a couple of years, but we gooooood"

Georgiev. Georgiev. Georgiev.


exactly lol majority of list is a joke
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