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Is it too late

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Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2020
Published: Oct. 29, 2020
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Yes, the infamous OS.. Although we rarely hear about them.. it doesn't mean they aren't offered and not signed. I would have to think most players wait it out to try and stay with their original teams. In this case however, I see Pulock with arb rights and likely to get a good settlement, 4 RFA all with arb rights the following year. I see it highly unlikely that NYI can make the moves to create the space and match this OS to Barzal without damaging the team too much and putting them in handcuffs the following year. This is an OS that should happen even if they match. Money talks, Barzal signs

I know I only have 20 guys on the opening roster but there is also room to add 2 more guys from the minors. Also I would anticipate the NHL coming to some form of extended roster agreement with Covid in mind.

Also I have moved Laffy to the RW to give him better puck protection. On a line with Bread and Barzal that would balanced with 3 play makers that can all score at an elite level

Kakko has impressed me more with his passing then his shooting; setting up Zibby around the net and sending Kreids on his long breaks will really work out for him IMO

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    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:18 a.m.
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    Thanks for emphasizing a constructive approach 👍

    Overall pretty nifty and well observed with KK there

    I love that it lets Panarin return to the Ovechkin role he had in SKA (so, so much effort carrying the Strome/Fast line ugh) but maybe Kreider <-> Laffy?

    Any plans for the remaining cap space perhaps?

    One more LD ideal I'm not a fan of either Lind/Bitt
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Thanks for emphasizing a constructive approach 👍

    Overall pretty nifty and well observed with KK there

    I love that it lets Panarin return to the Ovechkin role he had in SKA (so, so much effort carrying the Strome/Fast line ugh) but maybe Kreider <-> Laffy?

    Any plans for the remaining cap space perhaps?

    One more LD ideal I'm not a fan of either Lind/Bitt


    While Lindgren won't be seeing a large contract anytime soon he has played well and his best play was beside Fox. I personally would like to see 1 more year to see if he can improve or if he was just a nice and unexpected 1 year guy. I see him as a 5/6 guy longterm. I think keeping Lind/Bitt/JJ there till there's only 41 games left in the season and then bringing up Miller would be the best way to go so we don't end up in some type of log jam there. But that's just my opinion. Kreids is all Break out speed and tip ins and I feel that Laf will be better with back hand pass/shot. Allowing Laf to protect the puck more should help his success in my mind. But Kreids has been RW before so there is flexibility.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:37 a.m.
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    Ah yes, right after getting Barzal signed to an offersheet, the islanders would love to help their crosstown rivals with their cap problems! Also isles match anyway
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    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:42 a.m.
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Thanks for emphasizing a constructive approach 👍

    Overall pretty nifty and well observed with KK there

    I love that it lets Panarin return to the Ovechkin role he had in SKA (so, so much effort carrying the Strome/Fast line ugh) but maybe Kreider <-> Laffy?

    Any plans for the remaining cap space perhaps?

    One more LD ideal I'm not a fan of either Lind/Bitt


    Well $3.95 mil of that has to go towards the bonuses that need to be paid out?
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:43 a.m.
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    Ah yes, right after getting Barzal signed to an offersheet, the islanders would love to help their crosstown rivals with their cap problems! Also isles match anyway


    I doubt they match that kinda offer.

    Regardless there's a reason why offersheets don't happen, and they never happen this late in the off-season. Barzal isn't worth that contract or 4 1st round picks anyways so don't worry too much
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Well $3.95 mil of that has to go towards the bonuses that need to be paid out?


    That's a good point. The user needs to realize that there's a possible $10M in bonuses that need to either be paid on this years cap at the end of the year, or carry over till next. That way too much of a cap hit for dead space
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:45 a.m.
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    Sure go ahead and throw an $11 mil offer sheet at Matt Barzal, First i doubt he'd sign it going from the Islanders to the Rangers. And secondly good luck being able to afford to give big money to Fox, Kakko and Lafreniere within 2 to 4 years with a flat cap and no guarantee's when it will increase. This is just reckless spending in a flat cap world.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.
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    Ignoring whether it's realistic or not, the biggest issue becomes cap space down the road. In the next 2 years, the Rangers need to sign Fox, Shesterkin, Kakko, Zibanejad, Ekholm, and others to new deals with $38m tied up long term in Panarin, Trouba, Barzal, and Kreider. There's also whatever Lafraniere will eventually cost to keep in mind too, so even if the moves you suggest happened, the Rangers would likely end up in cap hell in a couple seasons.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    I doubt they match that kinda offer.

    Regardless there's a reason why offersheets don't happen, and they never happen this late in the off-season. Barzal isn't worth that contract or 4 1st round picks anyways so don't worry too much


    Who are the Rangers going to throw out to be able to throw an $11 million offer sheet at Matt Barzal? New York only has $10 million in cap space and need to remember that nearly $4 million of that goes to paying players bonuses for the season could be even more. Rangers are the last team that can afford to throw offer sheets at players especially $11 million's worth.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:51 a.m.
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    Ah yes, right after getting Barzal signed to an offersheet, the islanders would love to help their crosstown rivals with their cap problems! Also isles match anyway


    Are you saying the NYI would love to help us out with our cap problems, I may be misunderstanding this? I assume NYI would match if they can but now that leaves you guys to unload 8M roughly which won't be easy. Plus the 4 raises the following year. I just don't see how you guys could do it without Barzal taking closer to 8m. You will have to dump and pay in picks, where this way you keep the picks, let a few bad contracts die off and get 4 top 32 picks(realistically 20-32). OHHHH ****, thats supposed to be a trade to
    LA not NYI... Dammit
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    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    That's a good point. The user needs to realize that there's a possible $10M in bonuses that need to either be paid on this years cap at the end of the year, or carry over till next. That way too much of a cap hit for dead space


    Next year we have 10M in cap space opened(buy out) to pay the max 6M in potential bonuses over the cap.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 8:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Who are the Rangers going to throw out to be able to throw an $11 million offer sheet at Matt Barzal? New York only has $10 million in cap space and need to remember that nearly $4 million of that goes to paying players bonuses for the season could be even more. Rangers are the last team that can afford to throw offer sheets at players especially $11 million's worth.


    Have a look at the cap space here. I left over 5M open for that. Any overage can be paid out by the 10M in buy out space next season.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    Are you saying the NYI would love to help us out with our cap problems, I may be misunderstanding this? I assume NYI would match if they can but now that leaves you guys to unload 8M roughly which won't be easy. Plus the 4 raises the following year. I just don't see how you guys could do it without Barzal taking closer to 8m. You will have to dump and pay in picks, where this way you keep the picks, let a few bad contracts die off and get 4 top 32 picks(realistically 20-32). OHHHH ****, thats supposed to be a trade to
    LA not NYI... Dammit


    Oh lol, LA makes much more sense than NYI lmao. I was just being sarcastic
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    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:04 a.m.
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    Oh lol, LA makes much more sense than NYI lmao. I was just being sarcastic


    Ya my bad.. corrected it.
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    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    Next year we have 10M in cap space opened(buy out) to pay the max 6M in potential bonuses over the cap.


    There's $10M in bonuses. I'm pretty sure you can't split it between years. It's either all on this years cap, or all in next years. So if you only have $6M next year then you're screwed. & with key RFA's like Shestyorkin and Chytil coming up, that number will be smaller anyways
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    There's $10M in bonuses. I'm pretty sure you can't split it between years. It's either all on this years cap, or all in next years. So if you only have $6M next year then you're screwed. & with key RFA's like Shestyorkin and Chytil coming up, that number will be smaller anyways


    Thats not correct. We can carry 6.1M to next year and must cover the 4M this year
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    There's $10M in bonuses. I'm pretty sure you can't split it between years. It's either all on this years cap, or all in next years. So if you only have $6M next year then you're screwed. & with key RFA's like Shestyorkin and Chytil coming up, that number will be smaller anyways


    Chytil will get his QO or slight;y above, Shesty will get a 4M bridge deal. howden walks. Gaut gets QO or taken by SEA. Lindgren get QO
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:22 a.m.
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    Thats not correct. We can carry 6.1M to next year and must cover the 4M this year


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    Chytil will get his QO or slight;y above, Shesty will get a 4M bridge deal. howden walks. Gaut gets QO or taken by SEA. Lindgren get QO


    Regardless if that's true or not, you just proved my point. If you have $10M available next year and carry over $6.1M, that leaves you with $3.9M in space. If you're saying Shestyorkin gets $4M well you're already over the cap by then.
    My point is, you've managed the cap very poorly here.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:26 a.m.
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    Ignoring whether it's realistic or not, the biggest issue becomes cap space down the road. In the next 2 years, the Rangers need to sign Fox, Shesterkin, Kakko, Zibanejad, Ekholm, and others to new deals with $38m tied up long term in Panarin, Trouba, Barzal, and Kreider. There's also whatever Lafraniere will eventually cost to keep in mind too, so even if the moves you suggest happened, the Rangers would likely end up in cap hell in a couple seasons.


    Dont forget that Laf, shesty, fox, kakko are all technically making 3-4m with their bonuses(IF they get them) Shesty gets a 4M bridge, ADA is gone by this time, Zibby likely walks as he will be 30 and having barzal for all of his prime is going to be worth having chytil as the 2C. Kakko will end up with 5-6M maybe. So taking into account not having these bonuses, zibby, ADA and possibly ekholm; Its safe to say all the youth is resigned appropriately, Kravs, nils, K'andre now entering to fill some holes. When they need to be resigned we can move Kreider and TRouba as they become MNTC. It actually unfolds nicely. Make an excel sheet if you don't believe me
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 9:27 a.m.
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    Regardless if that's true or not, you just proved my point. If you have $10M available next year and carry over $6.1M, that leaves you with $3.9M in space. If you're saying Shestyorkin gets $4M well you're already over the cap by then.
    My point is, you've managed the cap very poorly here.


    Shesty accounts for 4M this year with his bonuses. So it's not really that bad.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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    Regardless if that's true or not, you just proved my point. If you have $10M available next year and carry over $6.1M, that leaves you with $3.9M in space. If you're saying Shestyorkin gets $4M well you're already over the cap by then.
    My point is, you've managed the cap very poorly here.


    Shesty - 3.8M
    Lind - 1.1M
    Chytil - 1.2M
    Gaut - 1.2M
    Howden - 0.8M
    buyouts - 9M

    Total of 17.1M - 6.1M(max) likely less =11M to resign the above players. This should help you see the bigger picture
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    Shesty - 3.8M
    Lind - 1.1M
    Chytil - 1.2M
    Gaut - 1.2M
    Howden - 0.8M
    buyouts - 9M

    Total of 17.1M - 6.1M(max) likely less =11M to resign the above players. This should help you see the bigger picture


    ... $11M when you said there's be $10M in cap space. Do you not see that 11 is bigger than 10? ... you're also gonna be surprised and saddened when Shestyorkin gets closer to $4.5 than $3.8, making you even more over the cap
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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    ... $11M when you said there's be $10M in cap space. Do you not see that 11 is bigger than 10? ... you're also gonna be surprised and saddened when Shestyorkin gets closer to $4.5 than $3.8, making you even more over the cap


    Let’s play it your way.

    Shesty -5M
    Chytil - 1.5m
    Lind -1.5m
    Gaut-SEA
    Howden walks
    Barron -1M

    That’s still only 9M of the 11M available.
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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    ... $11M when you said there's be $10M in cap space. Do you not see that 11 is bigger than 10? ... you're also gonna be surprised and saddened when Shestyorkin gets closer to $4.5 than $3.8, making you even more over the cap


    The 3.8 is what shesty makes this year if he gets all his bonuses which also means winning the Calder. Those are all their current cap hits man.. not next years.. jesus
    Oct. 29, 2020 at 11:02 a.m.
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    Let’s play it your way.

    Shesty -5M
    Chytil - 1.5m
    Lind -1.5m
    Gaut-SEA
    Howden walks
    Barron -1M

    That’s still only 9M of the 11M available.


    Keep lowballing all of your players. I'm sure they'll love that.
     
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