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According to scouts Romanov would have gone top 5 in 2018 re-draft

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According to numerous NHL scouts, if the 2018 draft were re-done today, Romanov would have gone top 5.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 10:53 p.m.
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He could go 5. I don’t think he would go any higher under any scenario. Dahlin Svech Hughes Tkchuck. The rest are debatable.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 10:55 p.m.
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i'm tired of hearing habs fans/media try absolutely everything to enhance their average prospects. let him play a game in the NHL before redrafting him at abc123. we have no clue how impactful he is until he plays.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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all the scouts are named grant mccagg
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.
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Let's pump the effin' brakes a little. He's a good prospect with a lot of promise, but come on now.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:01 p.m.
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It's all about what you leave out.

"According to numerous NHL scouts" - who work for the Canadiens - "if the 2018 draft were re-done today, Romanov would have gone top 5"
Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:13 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
It's all about what you leave out.

"According to numerous NHL scouts" - who work for the Canadiens - "if the 2018 draft were re-done today, Romanov would have gone top 5"


...does that mean that the Habs would never have got KK?
Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:15 p.m.
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LOL He hasn't even played a game yet. A guy like Lidstrom from the 3rd round could turn out to be top 5. Lidstrom...... This is years away from a decision.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
...does that mean that the Habs would never have got KK?


It would have to be one or the other in this fantasy scenario.

I'm just curious as to who these scouts are. If there were to be a re-draft today, based on the information we have at this moment I think it's safe to say that Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, and Hughes are shoe-ins to be in the top 5, so what kind of crystal ball do these guys have to be confident that Romanov would take the last slot over all these other guys?
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:40 p.m.
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LMAO
Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:48 p.m.
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best time to evaluate a draft is 3-5 years after, so lets wait.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
best time to evaluate a draft is 3-5 years after, so lets wait.


I think 5 years is the soonest you can realistically re-eventuate a draft. The class will be at least 23 which is when they stop being considered prospects so you can get a better understanding on whose panning out and whose not.
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Nov. 3, 2020 at 11:53 p.m.
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Let's just see what he does in the NHL first.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 12:04 a.m.
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His talent was NEVER in question
What was in question was the fact just weeks before the Draft at 17 he committed to a 2 year contract with the KHL.

KHL unlike other league's doesnt allow Prospects from the NHL Draft out of their Pre-Existing Contracts making him drop even further in the rankings as Per Trevor Timmons after he shocked most people taking him in the 2nd round. Many thought the 17 year old would wait and re-emerge the following year in order to get a better ranking as well as burning 1/2 years off his contract making it so more teams took interest.

Factor in he's a 3rd Generation Russian Legacy player who's Grandfather is a Russian Hockey Icon both on and off the Ice.
Most people expected him to join his Grandfather and Mentor the AK Bars GM who's one of Russian Hockey's most honored GM's and the equivelant to NHL's Scotty Bowman.

People overlook all the reasons he had to stay in Russia and ignore the NHL that lead to him being counted out by most.
The difference maker was the fact that Marc Bergavin was scouting in Russia a lot since 2014 from Panarin to Radulov, Shipachyov to Gusev
He spends a lot of time talking to Sergei Federov who's done nothing but Gush over Romanov since 2016-17.

MTL had every reason to use a later 2nd pick to snap up a guy who was predicted to go in the late 5th-6th round based on his circumstances IF he was taken at all.
Had we waited chancing he gets drafted a year later then we were looking at a lot of Competition .
Unlike most of our 2nd round picks the past 30 years he's someone we had scouted for years before he was actually ranked .
(he trained with AK Bars his Grandfathers team up until he was 16 so anyone with scouts in russia had the chance to notice him)

Everyone's acting shocked but the fact that MTL historically finds its best Gems in the 2nd round can be seen by anyone who looks up MTL's top 20 all time scorer's will see half them were taken in the 2nd round for that reason. Those are prospects we havent kept an eye on nearly as close as MTL has Romanov .

As a KHL fan i keep an eye on things oversea's so i was not shocked he succeeded but more shocked he was drafted a year earlier then 9/10 expected
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 1:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
His talent was NEVER in question
What was in question was the fact just weeks before the Draft at 17 he committed to a 2 year contract with the KHL.

KHL unlike other league's doesnt allow Prospects from the NHL Draft out of their Pre-Existing Contracts making him drop even further in the rankings as Per Trevor Timmons after he shocked most people taking him in the 2nd round. Many thought the 17 year old would wait and re-emerge the following year in order to get a better ranking as well as burning 1/2 years off his contract making it so more teams took interest.

Factor in he's a 3rd Generation Russian Legacy player who's Grandfather is a Russian Hockey Icon both on and off the Ice.
Most people expected him to join his Grandfather and Mentor the AK Bars GM who's one of Russian Hockey's most honored GM's and the equivelant to NHL's Scotty Bowman.

People overlook all the reasons he had to stay in Russia and ignore the NHL that lead to him being counted out by most.
The difference maker was the fact that Marc Bergavin was scouting in Russia a lot since 2014 from Panarin to Radulov, Shipachyov to Gusev
He spends a lot of time talking to Sergei Federov who's done nothing but Gush over Romanov since 2016-17.

MTL had every reason to use a later 2nd pick to snap up a guy who was predicted to go in the late 5th-6th round based on his circumstances IF he was taken at all.
Had we waited chancing he gets drafted a year later then we were looking at a lot of Competition .
Unlike most of our 2nd round picks the past 30 years he's someone we had scouted for years before he was actually ranked .
(he trained with AK Bars his Grandfathers team up until he was 16 so anyone with scouts in russia had the chance to notice him)

Everyone's acting shocked but the fact that MTL historically finds its best Gems in the 2nd round can be seen by anyone who looks up MTL's top 20 all time scorer's will see half them were taken in the 2nd round for that reason. Those are prospects we havent kept an eye on nearly as close as MTL has Romanov .

As a KHL fan i keep an eye on things oversea's so i was not shocked he succeeded but more shocked he was drafted a year earlier then 9/10 expected

Everyone is acting shocked because it’s premature to say he’d go top 5 in a redraft. There is tons of defense talent in this draft (Hughes, Dobson, Boqvist, Bouchard, Sandin, etc) let alone the forwards in the draft. It really doesn’t shock me though as Hab fans on HFB are complete homers with their prospects. One the other day said Kotkaniemi was the best player in Liiga, is going to be a franchise 1C, and was miles better than Quinn Hughes as he “gushes” potential and Hughes doesn’t.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 1:53 a.m.
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2018 was a great draft. theres no way im taking him top 10 let alone top 5
Nov. 4, 2020 at 4:13 a.m.
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that's an overstatement. The most realistic comparison to Alexader Romanov would be Dmitry Orlov. He's a good Dman but he's not Elite.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 7:45 a.m.
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Romanov could be really good, but no one in their right mind is ranking him ahead of Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Tkachuk, & Hughes.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 8:14 a.m.
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Now don't get me wrong I think Romanov is going to be an excellent player but only 19 of the 217 players drafted have played NHL games. So 198 players can't be measured accurately because there is no common ground to measure them with.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
Everyone is acting shocked because it’s premature to say he’d go top 5 in a redraft. There is tons of defense talent in this draft (Hughes, Dobson, Boqvist, Bouchard, Sandin, etc) let alone the forwards in the draft. It really doesn’t shock me though as Hab fans on HFB are complete homers with their prospects. One the other day said Kotkaniemi was the best player in Liiga, is going to be a franchise 1C, and was miles better than Quinn Hughes as he “gushes” potential and Hughes doesn’t.


This summer some NHL drafted prospect ranking lists had Romanov at 40 something, I remember the Athletic one had him at 44 and Conor Timmins at 42. Montreal fans need to cool their jets on Romanov, he hasn't played a single second of North America hockey yet.

He could be a stud, he could just be an everyday NHLer, let him play pro hockey in NA first
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Nov. 11, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
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Quoting: EzioUchiha
that's an overstatement. The most realistic comparison to Alexader Romanov would be Dmitry Orlov. He's a good Dman but he's not Elite.


not even close
Just because they're both high impact hitters doesnt make him and Orlov close to the same.

while Orlov was 19 in the MHL aka Junior
Romanov was 18 on the first Gagarin Cup win for CSKA Moskva helping shutdown both Emelin and Markov's new teams

Romanov is about 1 1/2-2 years ahead of Orlov's Rise to the NHL including Romanov outshining Orlov internationally at a younger age.
Romanov's a 3rd Generation star to one of the most Brilliant minds in KHL Hockey(the Scotty Bowman of Russia)in his Grandfather and Player/Agent Father who's helped him
prepare for this for this next step for years.

Will Romanov be a 60 point player , probably not but its also not out of the question he might hit a career high in that range at some point.
Romanov ideally is the guy you groom to play top spot like Weber helped NSH do with Josi .
His maturity coupled with the fact he's not intimidated on the ice by veterans tells any KHL fan who's watched him that he'll be a force in the NHL under Weber's tutlege .
I think for the next 3-4 years you'll see Romanov's importance rise with his minutes based on his Special Teams Ability alongside his ruthless Hitting Style that defy's logic.
(he's like a Tank with a Ferrari Engine as Opponets with 5 inches reach and 20-30 pounds on him get destroyed like they hit an invisible brick wall.)

Romanov because of this is a favorite to become MTL's next leader they wont let go of easily.
(was Markov , Now Gallagher,Next Romanov )
 
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