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New York Islanders signed Ryan Pulock (2 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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He mainly won it based on longevity and the fact the islanders ended up in the conference finals.

Devils have 4 million in dead cap thanks to his contracts and Toronto's entire offseason last year was getting out from under the Marleau and Zaitsev deals.


He can’t negotiate a solid contract for his life
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Barzal sitting out this year more than likely


he will get an offer sheet before that happens, and if it goes into the season they cant be over the cap so someone throws a 6 mill offer at him and they cant match.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Pulock is worth every bit of $5million and I truly appreciate the two year deal that allows for a big raise when he gets closer to UFA status.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.
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GREAT signing. Pulock deserves it big time.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.
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Gonna have to wait until this is confirmed before I vote...
Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Barzal Offer Sheet??? Lou is extremely vulnerable right now.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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so what team gets Barzal now? Islanders dont have the cap space to sign him, 70-80 point guy should be in the 7 mill range i would think.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:53 a.m.
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Great AAV but bad term. Also this does mean Barzal contract's will not be negociated until the islanders do a move. Plus now we know why they traded toews, they really wouldn't afford Barzal if toews had stayed
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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Don't like this one, 2 year deal at that AAV is a bit of a head scratcher. Figured they would lock him up longer term. Unless they're very confident they can sign him before he actually hits Free Agency, this doesn't look too good.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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Lou needs to dump Johnny Boychuk and/or Cal. It's gonna cost him big to trade either, especially with 2 years of term each remaining.I don't see any other practical way to sign Barzal.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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Barzal is WIDE open and ripe for an offer sheet now. One of those six or seven teams with a lot of cap space has to go for the throat.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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It's hard to call it a "bad" deal, I don't see Pulock failing to live up to it, it's more that some bad cap management put the Islanders in a position where they couldn't offer the AAV necessary to get some term. They can likely make an appropriate offer to Pulock at the end of this deal, but they took on a significant risk of the player walking away all to save a few dollars now, which is not a good look.

Overall, I still would say this is a "good contract". The Islanders are going to get more than $5M worth of defensemen from Pulock over the next two years, and if a player doesn't want to sign for longer than his RFA term, teams don't have a lot of recourse, so if this was what Pulock wanted, Lou didn't really mess up. That being said, the reality is the Islanders weren't in a position to offer more term and AAV to get him locked up, and putting the team in that position with other bad deals is the real problem here.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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Barzal Offer Sheet??? Lou is extremely vulnerable right now.


The problem with that is that no one who can afford him is good enough to want to give up multiple 1sts. Other than maybe CBJ, but they have their own big RFA to worry about.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.
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Gonna see a trade soon to get rid of cap I guess
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Salary is good but this sends him straight to UFA. Also, still going to be expensive for Lou to clear cap for Barzal.

Crazy how some Leafs fans still worship Lou.
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
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There are definitely more moves coming for the isles cause Barzal probably wants more than 3.9 mil
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:36 a.m.
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Good value but now he's a UFA in 2 years grimace
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.
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The problem with that is that no one who can afford him is good enough to want to give up multiple 1sts. Other than maybe CBJ, but they have their own big RFA to worry about.


How expensive do you think Barzal will be? Say 6-7 years? Any chance he signs a bridge deal for like $6M in order to wait til some of NYI's older guys' contracts expire?
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.
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I audibly gasped when I saw how many people said this was a bad deal. People just hate the Islanders. Nothing I can do about it I guess
Nov. 4, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.
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He deserves that money for sure. But they should add more term with that money. So if I take the Barzal situation into account, this is a bad deal.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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The jets better be going after this guy in 2 years
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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So lou got rielly to sign 5x5 but pulock 5x2 lul. Kid wants his money fast

In general Lou deserves every bit of this pure torture as he cost the team with the Marleau and Zaitsev signings and payback came back fast for him.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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Wow this is not good.
Under 4 million left to sign Barzal.

Most teams dont have the cap space to take on the Islanders cap dumps either.


And that combined with the fact Pulock is UFA at the end of this deal is the reason for the no votes.

Quoting: arafay
The jets better be going after this guy in 2 years


The Jets and everyone else too.
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Nov. 4, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.
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someone is getting traded. Also he had arbitration right
Nov. 4, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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I wonder if Komarov and Boychuk are giving their list of teams to Lou at the moment.
Both are M-NTC. (And on contracts buyout wont give much caprelief)

I wonder if they are forced to ask around about Leddy? He was pretty decent late half of season.

Anyways, someone is gonna get paid picking some Isles contract up.
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