Draisaitl is terrible even strength and awful defensively. Matthews is better in most areas of the game. Matthews is also more complete than Eichel while putting up more points
Draisaitl is terrible even strength and awful defensively. Matthews is better in most areas of the game. Matthews is also more complete than Eichel while putting up more points
Eichel and Matthews have put up similar numbers. Eichel has a slightly higher ppg since Matthews rookie year in 16-17
Draisaitl is terrible even strength and awful defensively. Matthews is better in most areas of the game. Matthews is also more complete than Eichel while putting up more points
Draisaitl is terrible even strength and awful defensively. Matthews is better in most areas of the game. Matthews is also more complete than Eichel while putting up more points
Mathews plays with more elite talent line mates. Inflates his numbers.
I completely disagree Drai is not terrible or awful in any regard. Yes hes plays with McDavid but not even strength. He also led the league in points. Also helped an almost record PP. Also performs better as an individual in the post season. 2 post seasons 1.29ppg. Mathews with 6 post seasons at .76ppg. The gap between Mathews D game is not that large. Only Leafs fans say it's that good and he's that well rounded. Drai gets caught deep sure, but he's not terrible or awful in any regard. He is better offensively, Mathews is better defensively but Dria gets the edge. Not saying it's huge just saying the edge.
Eichel on the other hand carries his team. His best line mates are Skinner and Rienhert... Mathews has Tavares, Marner, Nylander plus. I think Eichel is a more skilled and dominate player. If Mathews was what like 4 days older or something that draft class would of been. 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Mathews. I think with the addition of Hall on Eichels wing you will see boosted offensive stats in all columns. Think he has the skight edge as well.
Neither Drai or Eichel have an edge by a large margin but I think over all are better.
Mathews is a sick player but Dria and Eichel > Mathews right now
-Matthews is currently scoring at one of the highest goals per game pace ever.
-Analytically, Matthews > Eichel.
-Not that it's a huge factor, but Matthews won 54.9% of his faceoffs last year, vs. Eichel at 46.9%.
-Matthews is above a point per game throughout his career. Eichel is not.
-With 72 less games played, Matthews has contributed .8 more points to his teams bottom line (37.9 vs. 37.1)
Draisaitl is terrible even strength and awful defensively. Matthews is better in most areas of the game. Matthews is also more complete than Eichel while putting up more points
-Matthews is currently scoring at one of the highest goals per game pace ever.
-Analytically, Matthews > Eichel.
-Not that it's a huge factor, but Matthews won 54.9% of his faceoffs last year, vs. Eichel at 46.9%.
-Matthews is above a point per game throughout his career. Eichel is not.
-With 72 less games played, Matthews has contributed .8 more points to his teams bottom line (37.9 vs. 37.1)
Draisaitl has a greater positive impact on his team than Matthews does BY FAR, in all game states.
These numbers suggest it's a little closer. However, instead of disagreeing I'll just say I would like to see what Eichel could do with a better supporting cast. One that is similar to Mathews.
Draisaitl has a greater positive impact on his team than Matthews does BY FAR, in all game states.
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Mathews plays with more elite talent line mates. Inflates his numbers.
I completely disagree Drai is not terrible or awful in any regard. Yes hes plays with McDavid but not even strength. He also led the league in points. Also helped an almost record PP. Also performs better as an individual in the post season. 2 post seasons 1.29ppg. Mathews with 6 post seasons at .76ppg. The gap between Mathews D game is not that large. Only Leafs fans say it's that good and he's that well rounded. Drai gets caught deep sure, but he's not terrible or awful in any regard. He is better offensively, Mathews is better defensively but Dria gets the edge. Not saying it's huge just saying the edge.
Eichel on the other hand carries his team. His best line mates are Skinner and Rienhert... Mathews has Tavares, Marner, Nylander plus. I think Eichel is a more skilled and dominate player. If Mathews was what like 4 days older or something that draft class would of been. 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Mathews. I think with the addition of Hall on Eichels wing you will see boosted offensive stats in all columns. Think he has the skight edge as well.
Neither Drai or Eichel have an edge by a large margin but I think over all are better.
Dude What??? Drai plays with Mcdavid.... Mcdavid bro.. He played on a line with Mcdavid last year 67.8% of the time. When he wasn't with Mcdavid he was with Nuge and Yamamoto.
The linemates thing is a horrible argument. Matthews is the best player on the team and his line, so you can't say "His linemates
Drais' numbers are significantly higher because of his PP numbers. He has also averaged almost 3 minutes more per game than Matthews over the past 2 seasons. Babcock refused to play guys 20+ minutes.
Mathews is a sick player but Dria and Eichel > Mathews right now
If you compare each of their seasons based on age( Ex. Rookie seasons), Matthews has more goals and points per game each season in less ice time. If you compare even strength totals it’s even worse for eichel. Matthews is better defensively and is still a year younger, the only thing eichel has is that Buffalo sucks. However Matthews out scored eichel 2 years ago even when nylander held out and he played with Johnson and Hyman (neither are top line players).
Dude What??? Drai plays with Mcdavid.... Mcdavid bro.. He played on a line with Mcdavid last year 67.8% of the time. When he wasn't with Mcdavid he was with Nuge and Yamamoto.
The linemates thing is a horrible argument. Matthews is the best player on the team and his line, so you can't say "His linemates
Drais' numbers are significantly higher because of his PP numbers. He has also averaged almost 3 minutes more per game than Matthews over the past 2 seasons. Babcock refused to play guys 20+ minutes.
Matthews G/60: 1.46
Draisaitl G/60: 1.18
And when he played with Nuge and Yamo it become arguably the most dangerous line in the NHL... Blame the coach all you want for his ice time. Doesn't really matter. Even strength or not, special teams are a major factor and part of the game. He numbers are 'boosted' is not a good argument, I'll never agree when people just argue 5 v 5. Good PP win games, good players play on the PP, Drai helped his team's almost record breaking PP. Can't argue with those facts. Plus the post from the gent above me shows the number and Drai leads all but the one tied.
If you compare each of their seasons based on age( Ex. Rookie seasons), Matthews has more goals and points per game each season in less ice time. If you compare even strength totals it’s even worse for eichel. Matthews is better defensively and is still a year younger, the only thing eichel has is that Buffalo sucks. However Matthews out scored eichel 2 years ago even when nylander held out and he played with Johnson and Hyman (neither are top line players).
I still think overall career Mathews has had better line mates. Think if Eichel had the same we would be having a completely different conversation. Either way the number are close.
Dude What??? Drai plays with Mcdavid.... Mcdavid bro.. He played on a line with Mcdavid last year 67.8% of the time. When he wasn't with Mcdavid he was with Nuge and Yamamoto.
The linemates thing is a horrible argument. Matthews is the best player on the team and his line, so you can't say "His linemates
Draisaitl played with McDavid less than 50% of the time (5v5) last year... and he outscored him, too. Got that? He outscored McDavid... McDavid bro... He's so far out of Matthews' league offensively he can't even see him.
I still think overall career Mathews has had better line mates. Think if Eichel had the same we would be having a completely different conversation. Either way the number are close.
I think that’s a fair point. I just can’t say eichel is the better player based on “what if’s”. We will see this year as he has hall.
Draisaitl played with McDavid less than 50% of the time (5v5) last year... and he outscored him, too. Got that? He outscored McDavid... McDavid bro... He's so far out of Matthews' league offensively he can't even see him.
I did misread the line combos stat.
He is not so far out of Matthews league