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Matthews Trade packages

Created by: Mwasylko34
Initial Creation Date: Nov 5, 2020
Published: Nov 5, 2020 at 11:14
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
I know the values are going to be off. Some teams had players such as Eichel and Kane who maybe would consider 1 for 1 while others do not have a high caliber player hence the use of multiple draft picks and high end players still.
Trades
TOR
  1. Zegras, Trevor
  2. Lindholm, Hampus
  3. Drysdale, Jamie [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (ANA)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (ANA)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (ANA)
  7. 2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
ANA
    TOR
    1. Dvorak, Christian
    2. Chychrun, Jakob
    3. Hayton, Barrett
    4. 2021 1st round pick (ARI)
    5. 2022 1st round pick (ARI)
    ARI
      TOR
      1. Pastrnak, David
      2. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
      3. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
      BOS
        TOR
        1. Eichel, Jack
        BUF
          TOR
          1. Svechnikov, Andrei
          2. 2021 1st round pick (CAR)
          3. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
          4. 2021 2nd round pick (CAR)
          CAR
            TOR
            1. Gaudreau, Johnny
            2. Bennett, Sam
            3. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
            4. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
            CGY
              TOR
              1. Kane, Patrick
              CHI
                TOR
                1. Rantanen, Mikko
                2. Girard, Samuel
                COL
                  TOR
                  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
                  2. Werenski, Zachary
                  3. 2021 1st round pick (CBJ)
                  4. 2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)
                  CBJ
                    TOR
                    1. Heiskanen, Miro
                    2. Gurianov, Denis
                    3. 2021 1st round pick (DAL)
                    4. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
                    DAL
                      TOR
                      1. Larkin, Dylan
                      2. 2021 1st round pick (DET)
                      3. 2022 1st round pick (DET)
                      4. 2021 2nd round pick (DET)
                      DET
                        TOR
                        1. Yamamoto, Kailer
                        2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
                        3. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
                        4. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
                        EDM
                          TOR
                          1. Barkov, Aleksander
                          2. 2021 1st round pick (FLA)
                          FLA
                            TOR
                            1. Turcotte, Alex
                            2. Kaliyev, Arthur
                            3. Iafallo, Alex
                            4. 2021 1st round pick (LAK)
                            5. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
                            6. 2021 2nd round pick (LAK)
                            LAK
                              TOR
                              1. Dumba, Matt
                              2. Rossi, Marco
                              3. Eriksson Ek, Joel
                              4. 2021 1st round pick (MIN)
                              5. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
                              MIN
                                TOR
                                1. Danault, Phillip
                                2. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
                                3. Tatar, Tomas
                                4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
                                MTL
                                  TOR
                                  1. Arvidsson, Viktor
                                  2. Ekholm, Mattias
                                  3. 2021 1st round pick (NSH)
                                  4. 2022 1st round pick (NSH)
                                  5. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
                                  NSH
                                    TOR
                                    1. Bratt, Jesper [RFA Rights]
                                    2. Hughes, Jack
                                    3. Zacha, Pavel
                                    4. 2021 1st round pick (NJD)
                                    5. 2021 2nd round pick (NYI)
                                    6. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
                                    NJD
                                      TOR
                                      1. Barzal, Mathew [RFA Rights]
                                      2. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
                                      NYI
                                        TOR
                                        1. Panarin, Artemi
                                        2. 2021 4th round pick (NYR)
                                        NYR
                                          TOR
                                          1. Sanderson, Jake [Reserve List]
                                          2. Stützle, Tim [Reserve List]
                                          3. 2021 1st round pick (OTT)
                                          4. 2021 2nd round pick (OTT)
                                          5. 2021 3rd round pick (OTT)
                                          6. 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)
                                          OTT
                                            TOR
                                            1. Couturier, Sean
                                            2. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
                                            3. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
                                            PHI
                                              TOR
                                              1. Crosby, Sidney
                                              2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
                                              PIT
                                                TOR
                                                1. Couture, Logan
                                                2. Meier, Timo
                                                3. 2021 1st round pick (SJS)
                                                4. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
                                                5. 2021 3rd round pick (SJS)
                                                SJS
                                                  TOR
                                                  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
                                                  2. 2021 1st round pick (STL)
                                                  STL
                                                    TOR
                                                    1. Point, Brayden
                                                    2. 2021 3rd round pick (TBL)
                                                    TBL
                                                      TOR
                                                      1. Pettersson, Elias
                                                      VAN
                                                        TOR
                                                        1. Stone, Mark
                                                        2. Glass, Cody
                                                        3. 2021 2nd round pick (VGK)
                                                        4. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
                                                        5. 2022 3rd round pick (VGK)
                                                        VGK
                                                          TOR
                                                          1. Bäckström, Nicklas
                                                          2. Hathaway, Garnet
                                                          3. 2021 1st round pick (WSH)
                                                          4. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
                                                          5. 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
                                                          6. 2022 3rd round pick (WSH)
                                                          WSH
                                                            TOR
                                                            1. Connor, Kyle
                                                            2. Heinola, Ville
                                                            3. 2021 1st round pick (WPG)
                                                            4. 2021 2nd round pick (WPG)
                                                            5. 2021 3rd round pick (WPG)
                                                            WPG
                                                              Buyouts
                                                              • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
                                                              Retained Salary Transactions
                                                              • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
                                                              Buried
                                                              • Pierre Engvall: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
                                                              DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                                                              2021
                                                              TOR
                                                              ANA
                                                              ARI
                                                              CAR
                                                              CGY
                                                              CBJ
                                                              DAL
                                                              DET
                                                              EDM
                                                              FLA
                                                              LAK
                                                              MIN
                                                              PIT
                                                              MTL
                                                              NSH
                                                              NJD
                                                              OTT
                                                              PHI
                                                              SJS
                                                              STL
                                                              WSH
                                                              WPG
                                                              TOR
                                                              ANA
                                                              BOS
                                                              CAR
                                                              CGY
                                                              DAL
                                                              DET
                                                              LAK
                                                              NSH
                                                              NYI
                                                              COL
                                                              OTT
                                                              CBJ
                                                              PHI
                                                              PIT
                                                              VGK
                                                              NJD
                                                              WSH
                                                              WPG
                                                              CBJ
                                                              NJD
                                                              OTT
                                                              SJS
                                                              TBL
                                                              WPG
                                                              TOR
                                                              NYR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              2022
                                                              TOR
                                                              ANA
                                                              ARI
                                                              CAR
                                                              DET
                                                              LAK
                                                              NSH
                                                              TOR
                                                              ANA
                                                              BOS
                                                              EDM
                                                              SJS
                                                              WSH
                                                              TOR
                                                              VGK
                                                              WSH
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              2023
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              TOR
                                                              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                              69$81,500,000$292,317,677$0$14,530,000-$210,817,677
                                                              Left WingCenterRight Wing
                                                              TOR
                                                              Hyman, Zach
                                                              $2,250,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Matthews, Auston
                                                              $11,640,250
                                                              C
                                                              UFA - 4
                                                              TOR
                                                              Marner, Mitchell
                                                              $10,903,000
                                                              RW
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              TOR
                                                              Mikheyev, Ilya
                                                              $1,645,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              TOR
                                                              Tavares, John
                                                              $11,000,000
                                                              C
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              TOR
                                                              Nylander, William
                                                              $6,962,366
                                                              RW, LW
                                                              UFA - 4
                                                              TOR
                                                              Vesey, Jimmy
                                                              $900,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Kerfoot, Alexander
                                                              $3,500,000
                                                              C, LW
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              TOR
                                                              Simmonds, Wayne
                                                              $1,500,000
                                                              RW, LW
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Robertson, Nicholas
                                                              $821,667
                                                              LW
                                                              RFA - 4
                                                              TOR
                                                              Spezza, Jason
                                                              $700,000
                                                              C, RW
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              BOS
                                                              Pastrnak, David
                                                              $6,666,667
                                                              RW
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              CAR
                                                              Svechnikov, Andrei
                                                              $925,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              RFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Thornton, Joe
                                                              $700,000
                                                              C, LW
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              CHI
                                                              Kane, Patrick
                                                              $10,500,000
                                                              RW
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              CGY
                                                              Gaudreau, Johnny
                                                              $6,750,000
                                                              LW
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              TOR
                                                              Boyd, Travis
                                                              $700,000
                                                              C, RW
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              COL
                                                              Rantanen, Mikko
                                                              $9,250,000
                                                              RW
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              DAL
                                                              Gurianov, Denis
                                                              $2,550,000
                                                              RW, LW
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              ANA
                                                              Zegras, Trevor
                                                              $925,000
                                                              C
                                                              RFA - 3
                                                              EDM
                                                              Yamamoto, Kailer
                                                              $894,166
                                                              RW, C
                                                              RFA - 1
                                                              LAK
                                                              Iafallo, Alex
                                                              $2,425,000
                                                              LW, C
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              ARI
                                                              Dvorak, Christian
                                                              $4,450,000
                                                              C, LW
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              LAK
                                                              Kaliyev, Arthur
                                                              $925,000
                                                              RW, LW
                                                              RFA - 4
                                                              MTL
                                                              Tatar, Tomas
                                                              $4,800,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              ARI
                                                              Hayton, Barrett
                                                              $894,167
                                                              C, LW
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              NSH
                                                              Arvidsson, Viktor
                                                              $4,250,000
                                                              RW, LW
                                                              UFA - 4
                                                              NYR
                                                              Panarin, Artemi
                                                              $11,642,857
                                                              LW
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 6
                                                              BUF
                                                              Eichel, Jack
                                                              $10,000,000
                                                              C
                                                              UFA - 6
                                                              VGK
                                                              Stone, Mark
                                                              $9,500,000
                                                              RW
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 7
                                                              SJS
                                                              Meier, Timo
                                                              $6,000,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              RFA - 3
                                                              CGY
                                                              Bennett, Sam
                                                              $2,550,000
                                                              LW, C, RW
                                                              RFA - 1
                                                              WSH
                                                              Hathaway, Garnet
                                                              $1,500,000
                                                              LW, RW
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              DET
                                                              Larkin, Dylan
                                                              $6,100,000
                                                              C, LW
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              WPG
                                                              Connor, Kyle
                                                              $7,142,857
                                                              LW
                                                              UFA - 6
                                                              EDM
                                                              Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
                                                              $6,000,000
                                                              C, LW
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              FLA
                                                              Barkov, Aleksander
                                                              $5,900,000
                                                              C
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              LAK
                                                              Turcotte, Alex
                                                              $925,000
                                                              C
                                                              RFA - 4
                                                              MIN
                                                              Rossi, Marco
                                                              $925,000
                                                              C
                                                              RFA - 4
                                                              MIN
                                                              Eriksson Ek, Joel
                                                              $1,487,500
                                                              C
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              MTL
                                                              Danault, Phillip
                                                              $3,083,333
                                                              C
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              NJD
                                                              Hughes, Jack
                                                              $925,000
                                                              C
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              NJD
                                                              Zacha, Pavel
                                                              $2,250,000
                                                              LW, C
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              PHI
                                                              Couturier, Sean
                                                              $4,333,333
                                                              C
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              PIT
                                                              Crosby, Sidney
                                                              $8,700,000
                                                              C
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              SJS
                                                              Couture, Logan
                                                              $8,000,000
                                                              C, LW
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 7
                                                              STL
                                                              O'Reilly, Ryan
                                                              $7,500,000
                                                              C
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              TBL
                                                              Point, Brayden
                                                              $6,750,000
                                                              C, RW
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              VAN
                                                              Pettersson, Elias
                                                              $925,000
                                                              C
                                                              RFA - 1
                                                              VGK
                                                              Glass, Cody
                                                              $863,333
                                                              C
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              WSH
                                                              Bäckström, Nicklas
                                                              $9,200,000
                                                              C
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                              TOR
                                                              Muzzin, Jake
                                                              $5,625,000
                                                              LD
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 4
                                                              TOR
                                                              Brodie, TJ
                                                              $5,000,000
                                                              RD
                                                              NMC
                                                              UFA - 4
                                                              TOR
                                                              Andersen, Frederik
                                                              $5,000,000
                                                              G
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Rielly, Morgan
                                                              $5,000,000
                                                              LD
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              TOR
                                                              Holl, Justin
                                                              $2,000,000
                                                              RD
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              TOR
                                                              Campbell, Jack
                                                              $1,650,000
                                                              G
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              TOR
                                                              Lehtonen, Mikko
                                                              $925,000
                                                              LD
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Bogosian, Zach
                                                              $1,000,000
                                                              RD
                                                              NTC
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              TOR
                                                              Sandin, Rasmus
                                                              $894,167
                                                              LD
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              TOR
                                                              Dermott, Travis
                                                              $874,125
                                                              LD/RD
                                                              RFA - 1
                                                              ANA
                                                              Lindholm, Hampus
                                                              $5,205,556
                                                              LD
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              ARI
                                                              Chychrun, Jakob
                                                              $4,600,000
                                                              LD
                                                              UFA - 5
                                                              COL
                                                              Girard, Samuel
                                                              $5,000,000
                                                              LD
                                                              UFA - 7
                                                              CBJ
                                                              Werenski, Zachary
                                                              $5,000,000
                                                              LD
                                                              RFA - 2
                                                              DAL
                                                              Heiskanen, Miro
                                                              $894,166
                                                              LD/RD
                                                              UFA - 1
                                                              MIN
                                                              Dumba, Matt
                                                              $6,000,000
                                                              RD
                                                              UFA - 3
                                                              NSH
                                                              Ekholm, Mattias
                                                              $3,750,000
                                                              LD
                                                              UFA - 2
                                                              WPG
                                                              Heinola, Ville
                                                              $894,167
                                                              LD
                                                              RFA - 4

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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:17
                                                              #1
                                                              Xx_Zegras46_xX
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                                                              Most of these teams would prefer to keep the package...
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:21
                                                              #2
                                                              burn the pegulas
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                                                              i needed this laugh today thank you
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:25
                                                              #3
                                                              Bcarlo25
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                                                              Is Matthews worth more than pasta? Contracts matter.
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:28
                                                              #4
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                                                              Quoting: Bcarlo25
                                                              Is Matthews worth more than pasta? Contracts matter.


                                                              only reason i added picks to that is due to Matthews being a center
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:33
                                                              #5
                                                              Bcarlo25
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                                                              Quoting: Mwasylko34
                                                              only reason i added picks to that is due to Matthews being a center


                                                              Okay. Pastrnak is half the price.
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:39
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                                                              Formerly Jamiepo
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                                                              Quoting: Bcarlo25
                                                              Is Matthews worth more than pasta? Contracts matter.


                                                              Yes, to be honest that trade looks gross to me. I don’t put pasta anywhere near matthews level, not that I can argue it with the season he had last year.
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:39
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                                                              The problem with doing these kinds of posts are that a lot of the trades are not equal. So O'Reilly + 1st == Zegras + Drysdale + Lindholm + 1st + 1st + 2nd + 2nd? You could do this kind comparison to quite a few of these deals.
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:41
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                                                              Vegan Commie Hipster
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                                                              This is well done and I'd like to see what the people laughing here and being derisive would suggest

                                                              Not an easy excercise either, using all 30 teams etc. Can be hard to determine value for special players

                                                              I hate to drag Hyenas into this but so many people on this forum are like them, especially the lion king ones
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:42
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                                                              Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
                                                              Most of these teams would prefer to keep the package...


                                                              Overpaying for 'special' players is quite common
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:45
                                                              #10
                                                              Lenny7
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                                                              Quoting: villenash
                                                              The problem with doing these kinds of posts are that a lot of the trades are not equal. So O'Reilly + 1st == Zegras + Drysdale + Lindholm + 1st + 1st + 2nd + 2nd? You could do this kind comparison to quite a few of these deals.


                                                              Agreed. Imagine giving up your best dman, your top 2 prospects, 2 first round picks (That would inevitably be top 5-10 picks because of the bigger holes that this created) and 2 second round picks for a player that, while quite talented/great, doesn't even really fix your teams biggest need.

                                                              The Caps one is almost as funny when you compare it to the Ducks one.
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:45
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                                                              Quoting: villenash
                                                              The problem with doing these kinds of posts are that a lot of the trades are not equal. So O'Reilly + 1st == Zegras + Drysdale + Lindholm + 1st + 1st + 2nd + 2nd? You could do this kind comparison to quite a few of these deals.


                                                              Well a top line center to replace matthews yes plus the 1st because O'Reilly is a lot older and does not produce offensively as much
                                                              And i said the values are going to be off. Anaheim trade is prospects who may not pan out at all hence the additional picks. Id take out one first and one second to even it out then
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:47
                                                              #12
                                                              Lenny7
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                                                              Quoting: Radu47
                                                              Overpaying for 'special' players is quite common


                                                              There's "overpaying" and then there's "Here's a package that is equivalent to 4 x 1st round lotto picks, 2 high 2nds, and heck, might as well throw in the teams best dman while we're at it! (Who is probably worth 2 x 1st)"
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:57
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                                                              I have been away from the website for months with the occasional check in, but this deserves a comment

                                                              THE HELL?
                                                              Maybe think before making that bruins trade.

                                                              Thats like saying Debrusk for Marner and 2 2nd rounders (except for that its honeslty more realistic because of Marners gigantic cap hit)
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 11:57
                                                              #14
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                                                              No thank you, rather keep the oilers players.
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 12:11
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                                                              That Florida trade tho...

                                                              More like Matthews +1st for Barkov

                                                              Even then the Panthers probably decline
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 12:18
                                                              #16
                                                              Bcarlo25
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                                                              Quoting: Jamiepo
                                                              Yes, to be honest that trade looks gross to me. I don’t put pasta anywhere near matthews level, not that I can argue it with the season he had last year.


                                                              And the year before that. I guess would you rather Pastrnak with a 6 million dollar center, or Matthews with a 1 million dollar winger?
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 12:23
                                                              #17
                                                              Xx_Zegras46_xX
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                                                              Quoting: Radu47
                                                              Overpaying for 'special' players is quite common


                                                              Rather have a team of above average and good players rather than a singular superstar who doesn’t have a team around him.
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                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 2:41
                                                              #18
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                                                              Quoting: Bcarlo25
                                                              And the year before that. I guess would you rather Pastrnak with a 6 million dollar center, or Matthews with a 1 million dollar winger?


                                                              Matthews, every time. Last year was to me anyway pastas only 50 goal season. When I look at what both players do on the ice and the skill level I take Matthews.
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 3:30
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                                                              Bcarlo25
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                                                              Quoting: Jamiepo
                                                              Matthews, every time. Last year was to me anyway pastas only 50 goal season. When I look at what both players do on the ice and the skill level I take Matthews.


                                                              Ummm. Cool? I never said Pastrnak was better than Matthews.

                                                              Contracts matter. Pastrnaks is one of the best in the league. Matthews is meh.
                                                              Nov 5, 2020 at 8:58
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                                                              Formerly Jamiepo
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                                                              Quoting: Bcarlo25
                                                              Ummm. Cool? I never said Pastrnak was better than Matthews.

                                                              Contracts matter. Pastrnaks is one of the best in the league. Matthews is meh.


                                                              For sure Pasta’s contract is awesome. Does that mean I would rather have pasta over Matthews? No, that is my point. Just my opinion though.
                                                               
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