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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov. 6, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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Okay so your junk for two good players on good contracts? Ya, that makes sense.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Okay, so florida's junk for three good players on good contracts? Ya, thake makes sense
Nov. 6, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
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Okay, so florida's junk for three good players on good contracts? Ya, thake makes sense


Lol what? Holl is garbage. Engvall seems to be a guy leafs fans are desperate to get rid of, even though i like his game, and kerfoot is an okay player but he isn’t worth his contract.

I don’t think you know who weegar is maybe?

Anyway, if you’re gonna take this line, at least quote me you coward.
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Nov. 6, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
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Lol what? Holl is garbage. Engvall seems to be a guy leafs fans are desperate to get rid of, even though i like his game, and kerfoot is an okay player but he isn’t worth his contract.

I don’t think you know who weegar is maybe?

Anyway, if you’re gonna take this line, at least quote me you coward.


Yeah, gotta love this. A guy who has repeatedly talked about how leafs fans cant evaluate players values are taking their word for it of how good a player is. Holl is a fine 4RD and he's paid adequatly, calling him garbage means that you have never seen him play or even looked at his numbers. Engvall is thrown into every trade proposal because leaf fans think a bottom 6 pk guy needs to make less than a million or hit every one and actually be bad defensively. Kerfoot is an ok player on an ok contract.

Weegar is fine, hes better than Holl by the extra 1.25k and 2 years of contract, which makes him about the same value for money. He's also hilariously over valued by leafs fans because they think he can fit in the roster relativly cheaply, and by other fans because leafs fans keep trying to trade for him. The difference between him and Holl isnt astronomical in value.
Accari is almost 29 years old and has less points in his best season than Kerfoot does in his worst season, he's also very bad defensivly. I have no idea why Leaf fans are obsessed with him, but id bet on the hilarious shooting percentage spike that he will probably never have again.

Anyway, why would i quote tweet you? do you need validation that badly?
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Nov. 6, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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Yeah, gotta love this. A guy who has repeatedly talked about how leafs fans cant evaluate players values are taking their word for it of how good a player is. Holl is a fine 4RD and he's paid adequatly, calling him garbage means that you have never seen him play or even looked at his numbers. Engvall is thrown into every trade proposal because leaf fans think a bottom 6 pk guy needs to make less than a million or hit every one and actually be bad defensively. Kerfoot is an ok player on an ok contract.

Weegar is fine, hes better than Holl by the extra 1.25k and 2 years of contract, which makes him about the same value for money. He's also hilariously over valued by leafs fans because they think he can fit in the roster relativly cheaply, and by other fans because leafs fans keep trying to trade for him. The difference between him and Holl isnt astronomical in value.
Accari is almost 29 years old and has less points in his best season than Kerfoot does in his worst season, he's also very bad defensivly. I have no idea why Leaf fans are obsessed with him, but id bet on the hilarious shooting percentage spike that he will probably never have again.

Anyway, why would i quote tweet you? do you need validation that badly?


Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Yeah, gotta love this. A guy who has repeatedly talked about how leafs fans cant evaluate players values are taking their word for it of how good a player is. Holl is a fine 4RD and he's paid adequatly, calling him garbage means that you have never seen him play or even looked at his numbers. Engvall is thrown into every trade proposal because leaf fans think a bottom 6 pk guy needs to make less than a million or hit every one and actually be bad defensively. Kerfoot is an ok player on an ok contract.

Weegar is fine, hes better than Holl by the extra 1.25k and 2 years of contract, which makes him about the same value for money. He's also hilariously over valued by leafs fans because they think he can fit in the roster relativly cheaply, and by other fans because leafs fans keep trying to trade for him. The difference between him and Holl isnt astronomical in value.
Accari is almost 29 years old and has less points in his best season than Kerfoot does in his worst season, he's also very bad defensivly. I have no idea why Leaf fans are obsessed with him, but id bet on the hilarious shooting percentage spike that he will probably never have again.

Anyway, why would i quote tweet you? do you need validation that badly?


Given that you used my exact wording, it was pretty clear that you were taking a shot, but i guess didn’t want me to see it? Weird. Also were not using twitter.

Your evaluations are kind far off, I agree Holl is a solid 4th option at RD, but a healthy scratch isn’t worth 2 million.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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Given that you used my exact wording, it was pretty clear that you were taking a shot, but i guess didn’t want me to see it? Weird. Also were not using twitter.

Your evaluations are kind far off, I agree Holl is a solid 4th option at RD, but a healthy scratch isn’t worth 2 million.


i used your exact wording because i thought we were making wildly incorrect statements to prove a point.
And Holl was only a healthy scratch because Babcock is a vindictive prick, and he played 68 of 70 games last year. And, if he's a solid 4th option at RD, well then he's worth 2 million easy since most solid 4th options at D make more than that unless they are ELC players. And that's quite the swing from "Holl is trash"
Nov. 6, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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i used your exact wording because i thought we were making wildly incorrect statements to prove a point.
And Holl was only a healthy scratch because Babcock is a vindictive prick, and he played 68 of 70 games last year. And, if he's a solid 4th option at RD, well then he's worth 2 million easy since most solid 4th options at D make more than that unless they are ELC players. And that's quite the swing from "Holl is trash"


A 4th RD is a healthy scratch. Teams only use three RD. Healthy scratches don’t get 2 million.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.
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A 4th RD is a healthy scratch. Teams only use three RD. Healthy scratches don’t get 2 million.


ah, so you just have no idea what you are talking about then. Ok, well good to know. Holl is as good or better than the 4th defender on like 20 NHL teams but sure thing bahd, I wont let that stand in your way.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:11 p.m.
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ah, so you just have no idea what you are talking about then. Ok, well good to know. Holl is as good or better than the 4th defender on like 20 NHL teams but sure thing bahd, I wont let that stand in your way.


You said 4th RD. So you meant to say 2nd RD. Gotcha. That’s optimistic. Very optimistic. Probably one of the reasons the leafs aren’t good.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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You said 4th RD. So you meant to say 2nd RD. Gotcha. That’s optimistic. Very optimistic. Probably one of the reasons the leafs aren’t good.


it's not really, people just have no idea how good the 4th best defender on a good team actually is. The lightening and Hurricanes are aberrations. The leafs issue with Holl was that last year he was their 3rd best defender and that their 1st and 2nd best defender where hurt for big parts of the season and play in, so he was their 2nd best defender for a not insignificant part of the year. That's (one of the reasons) why the Leafs werent very good last year.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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it's not really, people just have no idea how good the 4th best defender on a good team actually is. The lightening and Hurricanes are aberrations. The leafs issue with Holl was that last year he was their 3rd best defender and that their 1st and 2nd best defender where hurt for big parts of the season and play in, so he was their 2nd best defender for a not insignificant part of the year. That's (one of the reasons) why the Leafs werent very good last year.


I think the big issue was that holl was part of a dog crap d core. Better luck next year. Who knows, maybe Dubas could drug some GM and pull off a trade as horrible as this one.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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I think the big issue was that holl was part of a dog crap d core. Better luck next year. Who knows, maybe Dubas could drug some GM and pull off a trade as horrible as this one.


except that literally anyone who watched Holl play when he was in his correct position in the depth chart would say he looked fine and was good. And even if the Leafs did pull off this trade, the ok upgrade from Holl to weegar (who mostly plays the left side and likes it there, which everyone else here seems to forget) is majorly offset by the terrible downgrade from Kerfoot to Acciari.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:32 p.m.
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except that literally anyone who watched Holl play when he was in his correct position in the depth chart would say he looked fine and was good. And even if the Leafs did pull off this trade, the ok upgrade from Holl to weegar (who mostly plays the left side and likes it there, which everyone else here seems to forget) is majorly offset by the terrible downgrade from Kerfoot to Acciari.


Not so sure that’s a downgrade. When cap is considered, i think it’s probably an upgrade. Wouldn’t be the worst thing for the leafs to actually have a player with a spine.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:35 p.m.
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Not so sure that’s a downgrade. When cap is considered, i think it’s probably an upgrade. Wouldn’t be the worst thing for the leafs to actually have a player with a spine.


it's a huge downgrade, Acciari isnt very good. There's a reason he bounced around so much. he is literally worse than Kerfoot in every way, and yes, that includes having a spine. Anyone who thinks Kerfoot is soft has never watched him played, and Acciari is by no means some sort of gritty leave it on the ice player.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:54 p.m.
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it's a huge downgrade, Acciari isnt very good. There's a reason he bounced around so much. he is literally worse than Kerfoot in every way, and yes, that includes having a spine. Anyone who thinks Kerfoot is soft has never watched him played, and Acciari is by no means some sort of gritty leave it on the ice player.


Bounced around so much? He’s never been traded. He played for one team and then signed in UFA with another.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
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Bounced around so much? He’s never been traded. He played for one team and then signed in UFA with another.


AHL to NHL back and forth for 2 years in the middle of what most players have as prime years before having two underwhelming years in the NHL and signing with another team and shooting something hilarious like 25% for 3 months and people finally realising he exists.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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AHL to NHL back and forth for 2 years in the middle of what most players have as prime years before having two underwhelming years in the NHL and signing with another team and shooting something hilarious like 25% for 3 months and people finally realising he exists.


Underwhelming years? Don’t think you were watching then. You should have been. He was beating up your team in the playoffs.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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Underwhelming years? Don’t think you were watching then. You should have been. He was beating up your team in the playoffs.


ah yes, Noel Acciari, beating the leafs all by himself. he was so visible that literally no one but Bruins fans remembers him ever being on the Bruins.
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Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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ah yes, Noel Acciari, beating the leafs all by himself. he was so visible that literally no one but Bruins fans remembers him ever being on the Bruins.


Is it tough to watch hockey through the blue lenses?

Btw, i didn’t say he beat the leafs.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:22 p.m.
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Is it tough to watch hockey through the blue lenses?

Btw, i didn’t say he beat the leafs.


he wasnt beating up on them either. which was the point. He was so irrelevant to those series and seasons that he's a trivia question answer at best.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:25 p.m.
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he wasnt beating up on them either. which was the point. He was so irrelevant to those series and seasons that he's a trivia question answer at best.


Pretty big assist on that back breaking kuraly goal in game 7. He’s a good player. Very physical. Very responsible. Just the kind of guy the leafs need to maybe have the smallest amount of success in the post season.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.
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Pretty big assist on that back breaking kuraly goal in game 7. He’s a good player. Very physical. Very responsible. Just the kind of guy the leafs need to maybe have the smallest amount of success in the post season.


wow, one assist! And no, he's not a good player. He's a middling 3rd liner who can score sometimes and he's awful defensively and he's not physical in any stand out way..
And you can keep repeating it over and over, but physicality is not a top 10, let alone top 5 reason why the leafs havent made the 2nd round.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.
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wow, one assist! And no, he's not a good player. He's a middling 3rd liner who can score sometimes and he's awful defensively and he's not physical in any stand out way..
And you can keep repeating it over and over, but physicality is not a top 10, let alone top 5 reason why the leafs havent made the 2nd round.


Good player defensively. Toronto is soft. They need to fix that or it will be the same old same old.
Nov. 6, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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Good player defensively. Toronto is soft. They need to fix that or it will be the same old same old.


he's terrible defensively, has been his whole career and he's getting worse. And Toronto isnt half as soft as people pretend. If they were Bruins fans would be embarassed that such a team took them to 7 games twice when that team had such a bad defence, injuries and suspensions on top of it.
Nov. 7, 2020 at 11:20 a.m.
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he's terrible defensively, has been his whole career and he's getting worse. And Toronto isnt half as soft as people pretend. If they were Bruins fans would be embarassed that such a team took them to 7 games twice when that team had such a bad defence, injuries and suspensions on top of it.


Nah real good defensively. Don’t think you’ve ever seen him play. Fantastic defensive player.

I am kind of embarrassed it took 7 games for boston to beat the leafs. It was funny to see leafs fans actually think they had a chance though. In the end i’m glad it happened.
 
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