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Nov. 9, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.
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Your playoff team is contingent on Josh Andersons health. That is riskyyyyy. Also Suzuki is an absolute beauty, saw him in the playoffs and oh my was he fantastic. He's gonna be fun to watch for a while.
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Ville__Koho
Your playoff team is contingent on Josh Andersons health. That is riskyyyyy. Also Suzuki is an absolute beauty, saw him in the playoffs and oh my was he fantastic. He's gonna be fun to watch for a while.


If Anderson's healthy is a bonus, but whether or not we make the playoffs does not depend on him
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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That second line would be alot of fun to watch. Suzuki and Drouin played very well together in the playoffs. Give them a winger like Anderson instead of Armia and they could go off.
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:01 a.m.
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It depends on a few things. If Price is league average, Romanov doesnt immediately step up, and Anderson doesnt play well, your lineup is incredibly top heavy and probably competing for the 2nd wildcard spot at best. If Price can revert back to his 2019 form, Romanov is all hes hyped to be, and Anderson plays well/healthy, then yes, this is a playoff team.
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:04 a.m.
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It’s dependant on Suzuki and Kotkaniemi taking those next steps that they showed capable in the playoffs. Anderson being healthy as well. Price has to be godly again as usual and hope that Allen can adjust to Montreal’s system and help take some of the workload. Who knows how Romanov will work out too. I agree that they look like a playoff team on paper and Bergevin did a great job this offseason, but the playoffs are never a sure thing
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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Crazy depth up front, even though there’s no superstar. I like Allen, gives them a great safety net and can actually push Price for playing time. LD could be a serious weakness though
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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If Anderson's healthy is a bonus, but whether or not we make the playoffs does not depend on him


Yeah looking back at the roster, and keeping the Atlantic Division (if that's a thing this year) I could see mtl being 3rd, wild card, or heck even 2nd
Something like:
Tampa
Montreal
Toronto
Boston
Florida
Buffalo
Sens
Red Wings

Yes, Toronto is still bad fight me.
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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Oops this was a mistake lol
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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I like bold statements so I will make one here. This is NOT just a playoff team this team will go to the ECF.
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:14 a.m.
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If we forget that other teams made additions, sure, Montreal is better than they were last year.

If it's a Canadian division, did they get better than Calgary, Toronto, Winnipeg or Edmonton? They may have surpassed Vancouver, and should be better than Ottawa. They'll fight for a wildcard until the end, but assuming they're a guaranteed playoff team is a bit of a stretch.
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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Montreal’s team to me is great but it really depends on how well the goaltending does even though we have good forward and defensive depth and decent talent all around
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: SlickWilly
It depends on a few things. If Price is league average, Romanov doesnt immediately step up, and Anderson doesnt play well, your lineup is incredibly top heavy and probably competing for the 2nd wildcard spot at best. If Price can revert back to his 2019 form, Romanov is all hes hyped to be, and Anderson plays well/healthy, then yes, this is a playoff team.


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If Anderson's healthy is a bonus, but whether or not we make the playoffs does not depend on him


Quoting: Ville__Koho
Your playoff team is contingent on Josh Andersons health. That is riskyyyyy. Also Suzuki is an absolute beauty, saw him in the playoffs and oh my was he fantastic. He's gonna be fun to watch for a while.


I feel like some of y’all are forgetting who Toffoli is. He is not a third liner - he’s a easy top 6 guy who’s stats have shown he’s an incredibly impactful player, who’s being paid 4 mil...

Anderson is only in the habs top 6 cause with that contract he MUST succeed and carry a top 6 role. But if he flounders the habs insert in Toffoli who’s likely a safer and better option no matter what (unless Anderson really does bounce back. Toffoli on a third line would dumby most teams third lines
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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Montreal’s team to me is great but it really depends on how well the goaltending does even though we have good forward and defensive depth and decent talent all around


The goaltending might be the smallest question mark on the team
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.
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YOU ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM!! Haha..
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:39 a.m.
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I feel like some of y’all are forgetting who Toffoli is. He is not a third liner - he’s a easy top 6 guy who’s stats have shown he’s an incredibly impactful player, who’s being paid 4 mil...

Anderson is only in the habs top 6 cause with that contract he MUST succeed and carry a top 6 role. But if he flounders the habs insert in Toffoli who’s likely a safer and better option no matter what (unless Anderson really does bounce back. Toffoli on a third line would dumby most teams third lines


No thats exactly the point. If Anderson performs well then you have Toffoli on the 3rd line which is really good depth for your forward lines, which is why in that case they would be a playoff team. If Anderson does not perform, then Toffoli needs to move up to the 2nd line and then ur bottom 6 is pretty shallow in terms of difference makers other than KK and you probably would not be able to outlast the top dogs in the division
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
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No thats exactly the point. If Anderson performs well then you have Toffoli on the 3rd line which is really good depth for your forward lines, which is why in that case they would be a playoff team. If Anderson does not perform, then Toffoli needs to move up to the 2nd line and then ur bottom 6 is pretty shallow in terms of difference makers other than KK and you probably would not be able to outlast the top dogs in the division


toffoli said he'd be willing to play LW. i think he plays there
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.
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toffoli said he'd be willing to play LW. i think he plays there


I mean, either him, Drouin, or Anderson, if one of them doesnt perform well then that thins out your offensive depth and you really only have two impactful lines, and Drouin and Anderson are known for their volatile nature so I wouldnt call either a safe bet
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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No thats exactly the point. If Anderson performs well then you have Toffoli on the 3rd line which is really good depth for your forward lines, which is why in that case they would be a playoff team. If Anderson does not perform, then Toffoli needs to move up to the 2nd line and then ur bottom 6 is pretty shallow in terms of difference makers other than KK and you probably would not be able to outlast the top dogs in the division


Well most other teams don’t have difference makers on the third line.
Canadian division:
Calgary : not really
EDM = mcdavid and Leon (we’ll see where RNH plays)
Vancouver : I mean no real difference makers
Ottawa : rookies could be the key
MTL : a lot possibility
Toronto : not exactly, top 6 heavy with bottom 6 being question marks and vets - Robertson could make a difference depending on where he plays
Winnipeg : no real difference maker in their bottom 6

Now the Atlantic is a different story but idk if we’ll see the Atlantic (but still not many teams with a difference maker on their third)
Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:03 p.m.
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No thats exactly the point. If Anderson performs well then you have Toffoli on the 3rd line which is really good depth for your forward lines, which is why in that case they would be a playoff team. If Anderson does not perform, then Toffoli needs to move up to the 2nd line and then ur bottom 6 is pretty shallow in terms of difference makers other than KK and you probably would not be able to outlast the top dogs in the division


Not really, if Anderson doesn't perform well on Suzuki's wing we move him to KK's wing and still have a balanced lineup with good talent throughout. If Anderson gets injured we bring up either Poehling or Yelonen and move Armia another middle six forward up to his optimal position on KK's wing.
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
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Well most other teams don’t have difference makers on the third line.
Canadian division:
Calgary : not really
EDM = mcdavid and Leon (we’ll see where RNH plays)
Vancouver : I mean no real difference makers
Ottawa : rookies could be the key
MTL : a lot possibility
Toronto : not exactly, top 6 heavy with bottom 6 being question marks and vets - Robertson could make a difference depending on where he plays
Winnipeg : no real difference maker in their bottom 6

Now the Atlantic is a different story but idk if we’ll see the Atlantic (but still not many teams with a difference maker on their third)


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Not really, if Anderson doesn't perform well on Suzuki's wing we move him to KK's wing and still have a balanced lineup with good talent throughout. If Anderson gets injured we bring up either Poehling or Yelonen and move Armia another middle six forward up to his optimal position on KK's wing.


The thing about the Canadian division is that the Oilers and Leafs, while not having difference makers in the bottom 6, have a significantly more stacked top 6, and the Jets have stars in their top 6 as well as the best goalie in the league, and they also have wildcards in Heinola and Samberg who could step up, similar to Romanov. So right off the bat you are already fighting for 3rd place in the division at best
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: SlickWilly
The thing about the Canadian division is that the Oilers and Leafs, while not having difference makers in the bottom 6, have a significantly more stacked top 6, and the Jets have stars in their top 6 as well as the best goalie in the league, and they also have wildcards in Heinola and Samberg who could step up, similar to Romanov. So right off the bat you are already fighting for 3rd place in the division at best


I think you’d definitely be fighting for the third spot, and if there’s a wild card scenario then they’d have a case for 4th wild card if Winnipeg beats them for third. I wouldn’t say the habs are a sure thing but they have a chance for a run for the second/ third round
Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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Well most other teams don’t have difference makers on the third line.
Canadian division:
Calgary : not really
EDM = mcdavid and Leon (we’ll see where RNH plays)
Vancouver : I mean no real difference makers
Ottawa : rookies could be the key
MTL : a lot possibility
Toronto : not exactly, top 6 heavy with bottom 6 being question marks and vets - Robertson could make a difference depending on where he plays
Winnipeg : no real difference maker in their bottom 6

Now the Atlantic is a different story but idk if we’ll see the Atlantic (but still not many teams with a difference maker on their third)


Do not forget about Elias Pettersson, he is a star.

The addition of Toffoli takes pressure off of Anderson, as he is not the only player who has a scoring touch on the team. Toffoli can put up 20 goals minimum on a team like this.

You nailed it though. In order for this team to be a playoff team, these are the requirements:
- Price is Price. He cannot be short of extraordinaire. Jake Allen will help, but it is still on Carey.
- Romanov steps up. We saw that Chariot is good at what he does, but that is about it. The left side of defense has been ATROCIOUS for years since Markov left, Edmundson and Romanov NEED to solidify the LD.
- Scoring increases. Gallagher needs to score 25+, as does Anderson and Toffoli.
- Tatar needs to be the trustworthy point-getter he has consistently been in MTL.
- Petry and Weber need to be solid 100% of the time, Fleury/Mete/Kulak/Oullette/Brook will follow by example.
- Drouin NEEDS TO STEP UP. AND NOW. Not here and there, not great and then injured to return from injury much worst. It needs to be Suzuki-level playmaking. MTL pays the guy 5.5mil to put up 50 points and no better. Habs fans have been waiting on Drouin for too long. If he can't figure it out, he HAS TO GO.
- Suzuki and Kotkaniemi continue their exponential rise in development and potential. Suzuki to take a much bigger role in terms of offense. The guy is the face of the future, in my opinion.
- There NEEDS TO BE an overall Champion mentality across the entire roster. Even scratches need to want to win.

In my opinion (yes, I am biased lol) this team is slept on. Big time. People discuss the Canadian division and tend to put MTL in the bottom 4. No. I wouldn't be surprised for a second if MTL dominated. People underestimate the privilege of having a game-stealing goaltender, let alone Carey Price. The guy pulls off magic, numerous games have been won by MTL when they had NO RIGHT winning, but Carey held it down. Now add one of the best BACKUPS in the league. A rested Price, with sound/solid defense (which relies upon the performance of Romanov, Weber, Chariot, Edmundson, Petry), and a team that can stay in opposing teams offensive longer then 30 seconds a game to ACTUALLY score some goals, that to me sounds like a cup contender!

BUUUUUUUUUUUUT lets not get ahead of ourselves and just wait and see. Could all go to ****! I highly doubt that, but possible!
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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I think you’d definitely be fighting for the third spot, and if there’s a wild card scenario then they’d have a case for 4th wild card if Winnipeg beats them for third. I wouldn’t say the habs are a sure thing but they have a chance for a run for the second/ third round


Yeah my point was essentially that things have to go right in order for it to happen but if they do go right its a pretty good team that could do some damage depending on who they match up against.
Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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The thing about the Canadian division is that the Oilers and Leafs, while not having difference makers in the bottom 6, have a significantly more stacked top 6, and the Jets have stars in their top 6 as well as the best goalie in the league, and they also have wildcards in Heinola and Samberg who could step up, similar to Romanov. So right off the bat you are already fighting for 3rd place in the division at best


keep overrating western teams, Canada. Just place all of your bets that way!

If EDM couldn't beat Chicago, I don't see them having a waking chance at beating WPG or CAL.

Western Canada is going to get a rude awakening in regards to the western vs eastern conference.
Nov. 9, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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keep overrating western teams, Canada. Just place all of your bets that way!

If EDM couldn't beat Chicago, I don't see them having a waking chance at beating WPG or CAL.

Western Canada is going to get a rude awakening in regards to the western vs eastern conference.


Idk, Ethan Bear was a rookie, Caleb Jones gets better, the addition of Tyson Barrie gives them the ability to not have to rely on Russell or Larsson. They have some significant pieces on the blue line.
 
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