what if we... just played Andersen less? Doesn't make sense to just give away a starting goalie, he's probably gonna have a career year this season with extra rest and not one but TWO competent NHL goaltenders behind him

i mean, the leafs dont have a starter and that's crap value for Andersen, other wise it works great!

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think you guys underrate Jack Campbell. After having watched him in LA for a couple seasons, I think he is absolutely a capable starting goaltender.

he has literally never shown any capacity to be a starter and is pushing up on 30. the chances of him becoming any sort of starter, let alone a capable one for a good team are incredibly limited.

Well, we disagree.

You're wrong about Campbell and you're wrong about the value of a goalie in the last year of his contract. Recall the Robin Lehner movement.

He's almost 29 and has 64 career games (Freddy avg. that many games each season in his first 3 seasons as a Leaf). So as much as I like Campbell as a backup, I would be very concerned if he was the Leafs No. 1.

well, he's played 6 games in a leafs uniform, and prior to that had a .900sv% with the kings. He has 2 NHL seasons to study, 1 great, 1 meh, both as the 30 game backup. I'm optimistic about his abilities, but maybe let's give him a season before we trade away freddy for scraps and make him our starting goaltender with stanley cup aspirations

Nope.

Run with Andersen, (playing less games), and Campbell.

If one of them goes down, Dell is there ready to go.

No point in moving your starter now to get a return like that.

The bed is made. Time to sleep in it.

A pick in the top 10 is not "scraps," and running a 23-man roster is a lot more sensible than screwing around with a 21-man squad and little maneuvering room.

You realize that you werent the only one who watched Campbell throughout his career right? Lots of people have and most of those people think Campbell is an ok back up at best. So, you might just be the one wrong here.
As well as value goes, well that's all relative isnt it? to a tanking team at the deadline with minimal suitors it takes a lot less to move a goalie than it would for a team who is trying to win ASAP would in the off season, especially when they dont have a viable replacement. Lehner was gone in the offseason no matter what and Chicago was gonna take the highest bid no matter what it was, the leafs are not even close to that sort of scenario

That is certainly a reasonable point of view.

a 2nd rounder is in the top 10?

Don't agree. He had to play behind a future Hall of Fame goaltender in LA. That doesn't mean he wasn't a capable starting goaltender.

Dallas completely screwed his development, and famed goalie whisperer Dusty Imoo turned his game around and helped him turn into a quality goaltender. He was LA's Masterton nominee for this reason.

Watch him play for a season and I think you'll change your mind on him.

As for how good Campbell is, he is unproven with the leafs and I'd like to see him one year as a 1b for Freddy. If he does great, they yah, we use him as a starter in 2021-22. If not, well, then we resign Andersen or another goalie.
As for Andersen's value, that's not the point. The point is trading him is not a good idea.

remember when i said other people have watched him play? Yeah, i was talking about me, and again i retort, he has never shown anything that he could be a capable starter. He's looked like his ceiling is good backup for 95% of his career.

Then we disagree. I watched him play every game of his NHL career (except the one for Dallas, of which I only caught highlights), including most of the home games in person. He flat out stole many games that the Kings had no business winning and was frankly the better option for LA in net. It's hard to go with a rookie over your franchise goaltender though.

Now, if your argument is that he hasn't shown that he can sustain that play over a full NHL season since he capped out at 31 games in 2018-19, then I will concede that point. However, the level of play that he brought during the games he did play in was every bit consistent with that of a starting goaltender.

Wow! Was I out to tea!!

He probably won't nave a career year this year but I agree with you mostly.

Now you need a new starter basically.Cambell's good but he can't do it all by himself.

idk, the team is better defensively this year, better coaching (manny malholtra who's a defensive wizard + full year of keefe), he can rest more with campbell starting 25-30 games (or dell if there's injuries), plus he's in a contract year so he's gonna feel the pressure

Actually you're probably right.Just how terrible he was last year...

Better coaching and better defense and Andersen's most recent year all argue in favor of taking the risk of starting Campbell. Plus, I think that the chance that Freddie rebounds is more than balanced by the possibility that if he does, you'll lose him for nothing. By this trade, Toronto:

(1) gets to keep Kerfoot
(2) gets cap space for a trade deadline acquisition
(3) gets to run a 23-man roster with flexibility
(4) gets a reasonably good second-round draft pick

None of the comments so far have convinced me that this idea is without merit.