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Initial Creation Date: Nov. 12, 2020
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22$81,500,000$80,898,250$0$850,000$601,750
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Doesn’t fill a need for FLA and I think they’re getting the lesser value as well.
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.
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HATE!!!!!!!!


Take that
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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I'd love to see Ekblad on the Leafs!

Where's Dermott?
Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Tippet > Liljegren
Ekblad > Nylander

As much as I would like to see it.
Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
Tippet > Liljegren
Ekblad > Nylander

As much as I would like to see it.


Agreed 100% on the valuation of those players. Also, Florida needs to improve defensively more than they need to improve offensively.
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
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If the Leafs do trade Nylander, I would want it to be for Ekblad. Overall I don't see this happening though.
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
If the Leafs do trade Nylander, I would want it to be for Ekblad. Overall I don't see this happening though.


I'd even be okay with someone like Hamilton, once he hits UFA.
Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:33 a.m.
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I don't hate it. I just don't see the Panthers jumping through any hoops to make it happen. They are not exactly swimming in defensive talent. Does removing Ekblad from the team and adding Nylander actually make them better? I would argue the reverse is true.

What is Liljegren at present? Not much TBH. He is an okay prospect that has yet to make an impact in the NHL.

The bottom line here for me is, this trade does not make Florida a better team. They would not be interested in this.

The Leafs team is pretty much set for this upcoming season. Trades like this are a little far fetched at this point. They have expansion to worry about too.

Nothing about this seems very realistic to me TBH.
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:36 a.m.
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Panthers just re-sign Hoffman and not worry about any trade...
Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.
-------------------Last 82 games played (All situations)--------------------------
---------------Eichel - 1795:17:00 TOI | 39g 49a 88p | $10.000Mx6------------
-------------Connor - 1718:32:00 TOI | 45g 41a 86p | $7.143Mx6-------------
----------------Point - 1558:15:00 TOI | 30g 46a 76p | $6.750Mx2--------------
-------M. Tkachuk - 1497:03:00 TOI | 31g 44a 75p | $7.000Mx2--------------
--------Pettersson - 1502:53:00 TOI | 29g 46a 75p | ELC-------------------------
---------------Stone - 1561:19:00 TOI | 25g 48a 73p | $9.500Mx7---------------
------------------Aho - 1611:30:00 TOI | 38g 34a 72p | $8.454Mx4---------------
----------Rantanen - 1624:00:00 TOI | 35g 37a 72p | $9.250Mx5--------------
------------------Hall - 1579:39:00 TOI | 22g 48a 70p | $8.000Mx1---------------
---------Nylander - 1476:55:00 TOI | 33g 36a 69p | $6.960Mx4--------------
-----------Hoffman - 1382:00:00 TOI | 34g 34a 68p | UFA------------------------
--------Landeskog - 1659:50:00 TOI | 28g 40a 68p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------------Laine - 1566:36:00 TOI | 29g 39a 68p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------------Barzal - 1609:15:00 TOI | 20g 47a 67p | RFA--------------------------
---------Gaudreau - 1552:34:00 TOI | 21g 46a 67p | $6.750Mx2---------------
-----------Wheeler - 1583:35:00 TOI | 22g 44a 66p | $8.250Mx4---------------


------Last 82 games played | 5v5 (85% of each game on average)------
--------------Point - 1225:25:00 TOI | 20g 36a 56p | $6.750Mx2-----------------
-----------Connor - 1307:26:00 TOI | 29g 25a 54p | $7.143Mx6-----------------
-------------Barzal - 1362:18:00 TOI | 14g 35a 49p | RFA---------------------------
-------Nylander - 1217:33:00 TOI | 23g 25a 48p | $6.960Mx4----------------
-----M. Tkachuk - 1200:42:00 TOI | 20g 28a 48p | $7.000Mx2----------------
-------------Eichel - 1392:15:00 TOI | 22g 24a 46p | $10.000Mx6--------------
------Pettersson - 1165:54:00 TOI | 19g 25a 44p | ELC--------------------------
----------------Hall - 1245:21:00 TOI | 13g 31a 44p | $8.000Mx1---------------
----------------Aho - 1197:33:00 TOI | 21g 21a 42p | $8.454Mx4---------------
-------Gaudreau - 1262:30:00 TOI | 14g 27a 41p | $6.750Mx2----------------
--------------Laine - 1255:46:00 TOI | 15g 24a 39p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------Rantanen - 1256:54:00 TOI | 15g 21a 36p | $9.250Mx5---------------
------Landeskog - 1285:16:00 TOI | 16g 19a 35p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------Wheeler - 1204:15:00 TOI | 14g 19a 33p | $8.250Mx4----------------
---------Hoffman - 1043:21:00 TOI | 15g 18a 33p | UFA--------------------------
------------------trading nylander would be a horrible idea--------------------
Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
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Really like it for both teams. Florida does need To receive a sweetener though.
Nov. 12, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
-------------------Last 82 games played (All situations)--------------------------
---------------Eichel - 1795:17:00 TOI | 39g 49a 88p | $10.000Mx6------------
-------------Connor - 1718:32:00 TOI | 45g 41a 86p | $7.143Mx6-------------
----------------Point - 1558:15:00 TOI | 30g 46a 76p | $6.750Mx2--------------
-------M. Tkachuk - 1497:03:00 TOI | 31g 44a 75p | $7.000Mx2--------------
--------Pettersson - 1502:53:00 TOI | 29g 46a 75p | ELC-------------------------
---------------Stone - 1561:19:00 TOI | 25g 48a 73p | $9.500Mx7---------------
------------------Aho - 1611:30:00 TOI | 38g 34a 72p | $8.454Mx4---------------
----------Rantanen - 1624:00:00 TOI | 35g 37a 72p | $9.250Mx5--------------
------------------Hall - 1579:39:00 TOI | 22g 48a 70p | $8.000Mx1---------------
---------Nylander - 1476:55:00 TOI | 33g 36a 69p | $6.960Mx4--------------
--------Landeskog - 1659:50:00 TOI | 28g 40a 68p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------------Laine - 1566:36:00 TOI | 29g 39a 68p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------------Barzal - 1609:15:00 TOI | 20g 47a 67p | RFA--------------------------
---------Gaudreau - 1552:34:00 TOI | 21g 46a 67p | $6.750Mx2---------------
-----------Wheeler - 1583:35:00 TOI | 22g 44a 66p | $8.250Mx4---------------


------Last 82 games played | 5v5 (85% of each game on average)------
--------------Point - 1225:25:00 TOI | 20g 36a 56p | $6.750Mx2-----------------
-----------Connor - 1307:26:00 TOI | 29g 25a 54p | $7.143Mx6-----------------
-------------Barzal - 1362:18:00 TOI | 14g 35a 49p | RFA---------------------------
-------Nylander - 1217:33:00 TOI | 23g 25a 48p | $6.960Mx4----------------
-----M. Tkachuk - 1200:42:00 TOI | 20g 28a 48p | $7.000Mx2----------------
-------------Eichel - 1392:15:00 TOI | 22g 24a 46p | $10.000Mx6--------------
------Pettersson - 1165:54:00 TOI | 19g 25a 44p | ELC--------------------------
----------------Hall - 1245:21:00 TOI | 13g 31a 44p | $8.000Mx1---------------
----------------Aho - 1197:33:00 TOI | 21g 21a 42p | $8.454Mx4---------------
-------Gaudreau - 1262:30:00 TOI | 14g 27a 41p | $6.750Mx2----------------
--------------Laine - 1255:46:00 TOI | 15g 24a 39p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------Rantanen - 1256:54:00 TOI | 15g 21a 36p | $9.250Mx5---------------
------Landeskog - 1285:16:00 TOI | 16g 19a 35p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------Wheeler - 1204:15:00 TOI | 14g 19a 33p | $8.250Mx4----------------
------------------trading nylander would be a horrible idea--------------------


You are making some good use out of this :P
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
-------------------Last 82 games played (All situations)--------------------------
---------------Eichel - 1795:17:00 TOI | 39g 49a 88p | $10.000Mx6------------
-------------Connor - 1718:32:00 TOI | 45g 41a 86p | $7.143Mx6-------------
----------------Point - 1558:15:00 TOI | 30g 46a 76p | $6.750Mx2--------------
-------M. Tkachuk - 1497:03:00 TOI | 31g 44a 75p | $7.000Mx2--------------
--------Pettersson - 1502:53:00 TOI | 29g 46a 75p | ELC-------------------------
---------------Stone - 1561:19:00 TOI | 25g 48a 73p | $9.500Mx7---------------
------------------Aho - 1611:30:00 TOI | 38g 34a 72p | $8.454Mx4---------------
----------Rantanen - 1624:00:00 TOI | 35g 37a 72p | $9.250Mx5--------------
------------------Hall - 1579:39:00 TOI | 22g 48a 70p | $8.000Mx1---------------
---------Nylander - 1476:55:00 TOI | 33g 36a 69p | $6.960Mx4--------------
-----------Hoffman - 1382:00:00 TOI | 34g 34a 68p | UFA------------------------
--------Landeskog - 1659:50:00 TOI | 28g 40a 68p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------------Laine - 1566:36:00 TOI | 29g 39a 68p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------------Barzal - 1609:15:00 TOI | 20g 47a 67p | RFA--------------------------
---------Gaudreau - 1552:34:00 TOI | 21g 46a 67p | $6.750Mx2---------------
-----------Wheeler - 1583:35:00 TOI | 22g 44a 66p | $8.250Mx4---------------


------Last 82 games played | 5v5 (85% of each game on average)------
--------------Point - 1225:25:00 TOI | 20g 36a 56p | $6.750Mx2-----------------
-----------Connor - 1307:26:00 TOI | 29g 25a 54p | $7.143Mx6-----------------
-------------Barzal - 1362:18:00 TOI | 14g 35a 49p | RFA---------------------------
-------Nylander - 1217:33:00 TOI | 23g 25a 48p | $6.960Mx4----------------
-----M. Tkachuk - 1200:42:00 TOI | 20g 28a 48p | $7.000Mx2----------------
-------------Eichel - 1392:15:00 TOI | 22g 24a 46p | $10.000Mx6--------------
------Pettersson - 1165:54:00 TOI | 19g 25a 44p | ELC--------------------------
----------------Hall - 1245:21:00 TOI | 13g 31a 44p | $8.000Mx1---------------
----------------Aho - 1197:33:00 TOI | 21g 21a 42p | $8.454Mx4---------------
-------Gaudreau - 1262:30:00 TOI | 14g 27a 41p | $6.750Mx2----------------
--------------Laine - 1255:46:00 TOI | 15g 24a 39p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------Rantanen - 1256:54:00 TOI | 15g 21a 36p | $9.250Mx5---------------
------Landeskog - 1285:16:00 TOI | 16g 19a 35p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------Wheeler - 1204:15:00 TOI | 14g 19a 33p | $8.250Mx4----------------
---------Hoffman - 1043:21:00 TOI | 15g 18a 33p | UFA--------------------------
------------------trading nylander would be a horrible idea--------------------


Oh boy, here we go again haha!
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
-------------------Last 82 games played (All situations)--------------------------
---------------Eichel - 1795:17:00 TOI | 39g 49a 88p | $10.000Mx6------------
-------------Connor - 1718:32:00 TOI | 45g 41a 86p | $7.143Mx6-------------
----------------Point - 1558:15:00 TOI | 30g 46a 76p | $6.750Mx2--------------
-------M. Tkachuk - 1497:03:00 TOI | 31g 44a 75p | $7.000Mx2--------------
--------Pettersson - 1502:53:00 TOI | 29g 46a 75p | ELC-------------------------
---------------Stone - 1561:19:00 TOI | 25g 48a 73p | $9.500Mx7---------------
------------------Aho - 1611:30:00 TOI | 38g 34a 72p | $8.454Mx4---------------
----------Rantanen - 1624:00:00 TOI | 35g 37a 72p | $9.250Mx5--------------
------------------Hall - 1579:39:00 TOI | 22g 48a 70p | $8.000Mx1---------------
---------Nylander - 1476:55:00 TOI | 33g 36a 69p | $6.960Mx4--------------
-----------Hoffman - 1382:00:00 TOI | 34g 34a 68p | UFA------------------------
--------Landeskog - 1659:50:00 TOI | 28g 40a 68p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------------Laine - 1566:36:00 TOI | 29g 39a 68p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------------Barzal - 1609:15:00 TOI | 20g 47a 67p | RFA--------------------------
---------Gaudreau - 1552:34:00 TOI | 21g 46a 67p | $6.750Mx2---------------
-----------Wheeler - 1583:35:00 TOI | 22g 44a 66p | $8.250Mx4---------------


------Last 82 games played | 5v5 (85% of each game on average)------
--------------Point - 1225:25:00 TOI | 20g 36a 56p | $6.750Mx2-----------------
-----------Connor - 1307:26:00 TOI | 29g 25a 54p | $7.143Mx6-----------------
-------------Barzal - 1362:18:00 TOI | 14g 35a 49p | RFA---------------------------
-------Nylander - 1217:33:00 TOI | 23g 25a 48p | $6.960Mx4----------------
-----M. Tkachuk - 1200:42:00 TOI | 20g 28a 48p | $7.000Mx2----------------
-------------Eichel - 1392:15:00 TOI | 22g 24a 46p | $10.000Mx6--------------
------Pettersson - 1165:54:00 TOI | 19g 25a 44p | ELC--------------------------
----------------Hall - 1245:21:00 TOI | 13g 31a 44p | $8.000Mx1---------------
----------------Aho - 1197:33:00 TOI | 21g 21a 42p | $8.454Mx4---------------
-------Gaudreau - 1262:30:00 TOI | 14g 27a 41p | $6.750Mx2----------------
--------------Laine - 1255:46:00 TOI | 15g 24a 39p | $6.750Mx1---------------
--------Rantanen - 1256:54:00 TOI | 15g 21a 36p | $9.250Mx5---------------
------Landeskog - 1285:16:00 TOI | 16g 19a 35p | $5.571Mx1---------------
----------Wheeler - 1204:15:00 TOI | 14g 19a 33p | $8.250Mx4----------------
---------Hoffman - 1043:21:00 TOI | 15g 18a 33p | UFA--------------------------
------------------trading nylander would be a horrible idea--------------------


Proves !y just sign Hoffman point.

Could you imagine Eichel with Marner, Matthews, Tavares etc around him??
Nov. 12, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Riley816
Proves !y just sign Hoffman point.

Could you imagine Eichel with Marner, Matthews, Tavares etc around him??


hoffman is also 30 turning 31. Nylander just turned 24. Took hoffman till 27 to even get 60 points, Nylander did twice as a 20 and 21 year old. Nylander has a higher ceiling and many more good playing years of hockey left

also, I do hope Eichel finds his way to a contender one day, similar to McDavid, such a great player just wasting away lol
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
hoffman is also 30 turning 31. Nylander just turned 24. Took him till 27 to even get 60 points, Nylander did twice as a 20 and 21 year old. Nylander has a higher ceiling and much more good playing years of hockey left

also, I do hope Eichel finds his way to a contender one day, similar to McDavid, such a great player just wasting away lol


I agree. But then compare Ekblad and Tippett versus Liljegren. I believe, don't want to speak for you, you'd pick Ekblad and Tippett.

Hoffman, Ekblad and Tippett versus Nylander and Liljegren, for Florida with the cap space, isn't a tough decision...
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Nov. 12, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Riley816
I agree. But then compare Ekblad and Tippett versus Liljegren. I believe, don't want to speak for you, you'd pick Ekblad and Tippett.

Hoffman, Ekblad and Tippett versus Nylander and Liljegren, for Florida with the cap space, isn't a tough decision...


oh definitely everything else in the deal is totally lopsided, Liljegren is a solid prospect, but he's no Ekblad - add in tippet and yeah no way
Nov. 12, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech
I'd love to see Ekblad on the Leafs!

Where's Dermott?


Had to bury him
Nov. 12, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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Had to bury him



The Red Wings thank you....
Nov. 13, 2020 at 9:24 a.m.
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Had to bury him


If you send Dermott down he gets claimed for sure. Why not just send down Marincin? Dermott >>>>>>>>Marincin.
 
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