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If PIT Even SNIFFS That Marino Is Taking Over 1RD

Created by: Arom5477
Initial Creation Date: Nov 12, 2020
Published: Nov 12, 2020 at 1:17
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
    Traded after training camp.

    I just don't see any point to him being on the team. There are younger, faster, and cheaper options already.
    OTT
    1. Sceviour, Colton
    PIT
    1. Fabbro, Dante
    2. Järnkrok, Calle
    Additional Details:
    Picks to balance.
    NSH
    1. Letang, Kris
    2. McCann, Jared
    Additional Details:
    Picks to balance.

    This trade depends on:

    1.) How close NSH is to being legit contenders; if they're right on the edge, I could see them doing this for more offense from their D and high offensive upside, in McCann, to replace Jarnkrok.

    2.) They didn't sign Mike Hoffman.
    PIT
    1. 2021 5th round pick (BOS)
    BOS
    1. Riikola, Juuso
    Buyouts
    • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PIT
    PIT
    BOS
    PIT
    WSH
    ANA
    2022
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    2023
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$71,461,009$0$1,700,000$10,038,991
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PIT
    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,200,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Zucker, Jason
    $5,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Poulin, Samuel
    $894,167
    LW, RW
    RFA - 3
    PIT
    Jankowski, Mark
    $700,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    NSH
    Järnkrok, Calle
    $2,000,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $1,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Blueger, Teddy
    $750,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Tanev, Brandon
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PIT
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Marino, John
    $925,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Jarry, Tristan
    $3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Pettersson, Marcus
    $4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 5
    NSH
    Fabbro, Dante
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Matheson, Michael
    $4,875,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    Ceci, Cody
    $1,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PIT
    Rodrigues, Evan
    $700,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Lafferty, Sam
    $750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Nov 12, 2020 at 1:23
    #1
    y i k e s
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    I just don’t know if Nash would trade fabbro - but McCann is a nice piece and so letang obvi. I think pit would be the team adding IMO just due to age/ cap. But argument could be made the other way just as easily as pens giving high current value assets.
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    Nov 12, 2020 at 1:28
    #2
    Thank You GMJR
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    We’ve already established on here that McCann / jarkonk are similar value

    So pens are essentially trading letang for fabbro, who had one of the worst seasons last year (by analytics) in the entire league? I get he’s a young player, but that’s an extremely hard pass. Pens get significantly worse
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    Nov 12, 2020 at 1:37
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    i dont think trading away Ekholm and Fabbro and getting Letang and McCann is part of NSH rebuild...
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    Nov 12, 2020 at 1:40
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    NSH wholeheartedly declines. Jarnkrok and McCann are probably close in value, but I'd rather keep Jarnkrok. Cheaper, more versatile, and I don't believe that McCann has much more untapped potential. Fabbro's rookie season had some bumps, but he's NSH's only young, cost-effective, top four defenseman right now. Letang might have value to the right team, but NSH isn't one of them.
    Nov 12, 2020 at 2:34
    #5
    LETS go PENS
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    McCann better than Jarnkrok right now. And is only 24 years old!! Letang would bring back more than Fabbro. Letang still scored 44 points in 55 games last year and 56 in 65 games the year b4. And was still voted a 10 top Defender by NHL network for next year. He was like 7th or 8th.
    Nov 12, 2020 at 2:36
    #6
    LETS go PENS
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    Quoting: gmgb
    NSH wholeheartedly declines. Jarnkrok and McCann are probably close in value, but I'd rather keep Jarnkrok. Cheaper, more versatile, and I don't believe that McCann has much more untapped potential. Fabbro's rookie season had some bumps, but he's NSH's only young, cost-effective, top four defenseman right now. Letang might have value to the right team, but NSH isn't one of them.


    McCann better than Jarnkrok right now. And is only 24 years old!! Letang would bring back more than Fabbro. Letang still scored 44 points in 55 games last year and 56 in 65 games the year b4. And was still voted a 10 top Defender by NHL network for next year. He was like 7th or 8th.
    Nov 12, 2020 at 3:22
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    Quoting: HockeyTownUSA69
    McCann better than Jarnkrok right now. And is only 24 years old!! Letang would bring back more than Fabbro. Letang still scored 44 points in 55 games last year and 56 in 65 games the year b4. And was still voted a 10 top Defender by NHL network for next year. He was like 7th or 8th.


    I disagree about McCann being better - I think Jarnkrok is the better overall player, but it's relatively close. I outlined why I'd prefer to have Jarnkrok. Letang's trade value is tricky, because you'd have to find a team that needs him, can absorb his salary, and isn't scared off by his age, injury history, and decline. I'm not sure what teams would be on that list. Nashville wouldn't be one of them. Whatever the potential return for him would be is irrelevant, as it doesn't make sense for PIT to trade him. He's still their best defenseman by a mile, and they appear to be trying to keep their competitive window open for as long as possible.
    Nov 12, 2020 at 3:37
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    LETS go PENS
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    Quoting: gmgb
    I disagree about McCann being better - I think Jarnkrok is the better overall player, but it's relatively close. I outlined why I'd prefer to have Jarnkrok. Letang's trade value is tricky, because you'd have to find a team that needs him, can absorb his salary, and isn't scared off by his age, injury history, and decline. I'm not sure what teams would be on that list. Nashville wouldn't be one of them. Whatever the potential return for him would be is irrelevant, as it doesn't make sense for PIT to trade him. He's still their best defenseman by a mile, and they appear to be trying to keep their competitive window open for as long as possible.


    I know the problem u are having
    My man!! McCann has had two 35 point seasons back to back years!! He only played 5 seasons in the NHL. Since he was 19. Not 6 years and since he was 18. 2018 you are looking at those stats as 2 separate years. He played for 2 teams. And had 19 goals and 35 points b/ween the 2 teams in 78 games!! Those 2 stats lines arnt separate seasons. He had 14 goals and 35 points last year. And 19 goals and 35 points the year b4. And again has played in the NHL since he was 19. And has been bounced around from 3rd line C. To top 6. To 4th line Winger. This year, he is staying on the LW, 3rd line!! Where he belongs. And do what he does best. Put the puck in the net. And will score 20 plus. And is still just 24.
    Nov 12, 2020 at 6:29
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    I love lines like this "I just don't see any point to him being on the team. There are younger, faster, and cheaper options already."

    Like what do you think every other team is going to think too?

    Oh yeah sure we'll take him?

    It's a one year expiring deal. Unless a team has a need due to injury he's probably not going anywhere
    Nov 12, 2020 at 6:32
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    Quoting: gmgb
    I disagree about McCann being better - I think Jarnkrok is the better overall player, but it's relatively close. I outlined why I'd prefer to have Jarnkrok. Letang's trade value is tricky, because you'd have to find a team that needs him, can absorb his salary, and isn't scared off by his age, injury history, and decline. I'm not sure what teams would be on that list. Nashville wouldn't be one of them. Whatever the potential return for him would be is irrelevant, as it doesn't make sense for PIT to trade him. He's still their best defenseman by a mile, and they appear to be trying to keep their competitive window open for as long as possible.


    trading Letang isn't tricky. It's not like you are talking about the Burns contract or something. His contract ends in 2 years. There is little risk there. What you see is basically what you get.
    If they aren't in the playoffs next year, he probably gets shopped out for a 1st and prospect at deadline or before.
    Massive retool will start after next years outcome.
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