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Push back to finals

Created by: oilersfan19
Initial Creation Date: Nov 13, 2020
Published: Nov 13, 2020 at 12:03
Team: 2020-21 Dallas Stars
Team Explanation
Dallas gets rid of a bad contract in Johns, a rather poor contract for a solid 3C in Faksa, plus a few mid round picks to take on half of Getzlaf for next year, and to LTIR the remainder of Kesler’s deal.

Why this makes sense for Anaheim:
- They finally pull the trigger on the rebuild. They have a Top 5 prospect core, they can work on integrating guys like Zegras into the lineup, then Steel, Jones, Terry into the top 6 full time. Although Faksa has a somewhat poor deal, for a rebuilding team it is not a bad deal as it will keep the team above the cap floor. Ducks can take a guy like Johns and have him play under Shattenkirk & Manson. Or the option to LTIR him.

Why this makes sense for Dallas:
- As they bring back Corey Perry who was very good for them in the playoffs, they also bring in veteran Getzlaf who will be a fantastic 3C for the Stars. He and Perry alongside the other vets who helped Dallas’ playoff run will provide great presence, and hopefully motivate guys like Seguin & Radulov to step it up further.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Perry, Corey1$1,000,000
Trades
DAL
  1. Getzlaf, Ryan ($4,125,000 retained)
  2. Kesler, Ryan
ANA
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Johns, Stephen
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
  • Valeri Nichushkin: $450,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2022
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2023
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,824,531$3,047,866$2,582,500$675,469
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
DAL
Radulov, Alexander
$6,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
$2,550,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
DAL
Hintz, Roope
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
DAL
Pavelski, Joe
$7,000,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
DAL
Robertson, Jason
$795,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
ANA
Getzlaf, Ryan
$4,125,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Perry, Corey
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
DAL
Cogliano, Andrew
$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$1,500,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Comeau, Blake
$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DAL
Lindell, Esa
$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 5
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
$2,137,500
LD
UFA - 1
DAL
Heiskanen, Miro
$894,166
LD/RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$3,333,333
G
NTC
UFA - 3
DAL
Sekera, Andrej
$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
DAL
Honka, Julius
$700,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DAL
Dowling, Justin
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
ANA
Kesler, Ryan
$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
DAL
Kiviranta, Joel
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DAL
Pysyk, Mark
$750,000
RD, RW
UFA - 1

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Nov 13, 2020 at 12:04
#1
Joined: Nov 2018
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Getz isnt waiving to go anywhere, hes already said so. He has a young family and especially in covid he isnt leaving them, even just for a few months. He has his ring already and he has no desire to leave ANA

Value wise this is good though
Nov 13, 2020 at 12:04
#2
Xx_Zegras46_xX
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Getzlaf doesn’t waive
Nov 13, 2020 at 12:10
#3
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Doubt Faksa is move within the first year of his contract
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Nov 13, 2020 at 12:12
#4
Always Next Year
Joined: Feb 2020
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speaking as an outsider here.

that's way too much to give for an old, one year rental who you play as your 3C.

Faksa > Getzlaf
Nov 13, 2020 at 1:08
#5
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: Salzy
Getz isnt waiving to go anywhere, hes already said so. He has a young family and especially in covid he isnt leaving them, even just for a few months. He has his ring already and he has no desire to leave ANA

Value wise this is good though


You guys need to stop lying. Getzlaf never said he won’t waive. He’s on record saying that if GMBM came to him about moving on they’d work together if it was in the best interest of the organization.
Nov 13, 2020 at 1:38
#6
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Quoting: Jah1722
You guys need to stop lying. Getzlaf never said he won’t waive. He’s on record saying that if GMBM came to him about moving on they’d work together if it was in the best interest of the organization.


Honestly, I have no desire to try to chase a Cup somewhere else,” Getzlaf told The Athletic.

Where’s the lie? Do your research before you call people liars
Nov 13, 2020 at 1:51
#7
Jah1722
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Edited Nov 13, 2020 at 1:59
Quoting: Salzy
Honestly, I have no desire to try to chase a Cup somewhere else,” Getzlaf told The Athletic.

Where’s the lie? Do your research before you call people liars


No research needed. Your quote doesn’t say he won’t waive. His desire is to stay with ANA but he said if GMBM comes to him he’ll think about it and work with him if it’s for the betterment of the organization.

Edit: the same article you pulled your quote from, “ “Me and Bob have talked. Years ago, when I signed this no-move clause, this wasn’t a no-move clause to lock him into something that he didn’t want to be a part of. We’ve had the same agreement since day one,” Getzlaf said. “If he ever felt that he needed to do something to move me, then he would come talk to me and we’d work through it. And vice versa.”
Nov 13, 2020 at 3:00
#8
My Balls Itch
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 484
Likes: 101
wouldn't call faksas contract poor at all. he is one of the best defensive forwards in the league and he just signed that deal. Johns most likely doesn't play hockey again and goes on ltir. No reason for the stars to do this.
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Nov 13, 2020 at 3:09
#9
My Balls Itch
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 484
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they also cant bring on cap. they need to clear the overages from last year and the bonuses from this year to resign miro, Dickinson, and oleksiak plus klingberg is up the year after. with the flat cap that 5m in overages if they don't clear them this year is going to hurt bad and only become a bigger problem.
Nov 13, 2020 at 9:00
#10
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Quoting: Jah1722
No research needed. Your quote doesn’t say he won’t waive. His desire is to stay with ANA but he said if GMBM comes to him he’ll think about it and work with him if it’s for the betterment of the organization.

Edit: the same article you pulled your quote from, “ “Me and Bob have talked. Years ago, when I signed this no-move clause, this wasn’t a no-move clause to lock him into something that he didn’t want to be a part of. We’ve had the same agreement since day one,” Getzlaf said. “If he ever felt that he needed to do something to move me, then he would come talk to me and we’d work through it. And vice versa.”


Him saying he has no desire to leave literally means he doesn’t want to waive. Yeah he said he would consider it if asked but he literally said he doesn’t want to
Nov 13, 2020 at 11:55
#11
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: Salzy
Him saying he has no desire to leave literally means he doesn’t want to waive. Yeah he said he would consider it if asked but he literally said he doesn’t want to


Exactly he would consider it. So quit lying and saying he want waive when he’s on record saying he would work with GMBM if asked.
Nov 14, 2020 at 12:07
#12
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Quoting: Jah1722
Exactly he would consider it. So quit lying and saying he want waive when he’s on record saying he would work with GMBM if asked.


Dude it isn’t a lie he said he doesn’t want to 😂. Willing to work and wanting to are two completely different things. You can not want to but be open to it, which is exactly what he says in the interview. Also he said that at the start of the contract, and that specific article was pre covid. So if he didn’t want to then it’s safe to assume he would want to even less now
Nov 14, 2020 at 12:28
#13
Jah1722
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Quoting: Salzy
Dude it isn’t a lie he said he doesn’t want to 😂. Willing to work and wanting to are two completely different things. You can not want to but be open to it, which is exactly what he says in the interview. Also he said that at the start of the contract, and that specific article was pre covid. So if he didn’t want to then it’s safe to assume he would want to even less now


You said he wouldn’t waive. He is on record saying he would work with GMBM. There’s nothing to argue here. Stop saying players won’t waive especially when they’re on record saying differently. Also didn’t he just sell his house?
Nov 14, 2020 at 11:08
#14
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Quoting: Jah1722
You said he wouldn’t waive. He is on record saying he would work with GMBM. There’s nothing to argue here. Stop saying players won’t waive especially when they’re on record saying differently. Also didn’t he just sell his house?


He literally said he doesn’t want to leave ANA. You’re hopeless at this point. He also sold a house there in 2016 what’s your point?
Nov 14, 2020 at 1:28
#15
Jah1722
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Quoting: Salzy
He literally said he doesn’t want to leave ANA. You’re hopeless at this point. He also sold a house there in 2016 what’s your point?


Hopeless would be the one that chooses to just ignore an entire quote in hopes of being right.
 
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