Wings pass they aren't paying for an older player with long term high cap hit from a team that is desperate to get under the cap. Tampa will have to pay for us to take him and they won't get anything back.

Player is useful on a playoff team, to the wings he's a cap dump which means tampa pays heavy for us to take him.

you forgot Sergachev. HAHAHA.

You also forgot that because theyre running out of time, they probably don't get any where near market value. And Stamkos doesn't get all those players and picks, not even half.

Where's Sergachev? Cernak isn't getting paid that much from Tampa, Stamkos has already stated that he's not waiving his NMC. And Killorn isn't worth what's basically going to be a late 1st round pick so Detroit absolutely declines.

Lol tampa isn’t paying to trade killorn

Tampa doesn’t have to trade stamkos if a team wants him they are paying a lot for him

Cool. They can keep his cap hit 4.45 cap hit then for a 31 year old player. It's not like they need any cap space to sign Cirelli and Sergachev.

I'm sure teams are just lining up to help the Lightning out so they can keep their crazy talented young core together and dominate for another decade.

FYI, Detroit has Zero interest in trading draft picks for 31 year old wingers with big cap hits and term. Zero.

That Montreal trade is a joke right because Montreal cannot afford Stamkos and will not give that much assets for him

So what is Tampa going to do?

There are exactly 11 teams that can take on Killorn's cap hit with out going over the cap.

Of those you can forget about these teams, Philly they have 4.8 million with 4 more players to fill out 23 roster, Chicago has 5.2 million and 4 roster spots to fill, Florida has 8.3 million and 4 roster spots to fill and have an internal cap, Boston has 6.6 million in cap space but have 3 roster spaces to fill..

that leaves

Rangers have 4.8 million in cap space and have a 23 man roster,
Columbus with 9.2 and 22 man roster but need to sign PLD which will cost upwards for 5 million and Killorn could use the last.
Detroit has 9.5 million and have a 22 man roster
Ottawa has 12.5 million and a 22 man roster
Nashville has 12.9 million but needs 4 players to fillout the roster of 23
LA Kings have 13.6 million and 4 roster spots to fill
NJ Devils have17.9 million and need to fillout out 7 spots.

the list of teams able to take on Killorn is short and mosthave their own situations to deal with 1st. just do not see a team giving up anything and will want something to take on Killorn.

If you believe differently, fine but the math just does not work out. Teams are not going to take on a contract and throw them over the and have to pay Tampa for hima nd pay someone else to take on a contract to be cap complient. they are not going to take on Tampa's headache.

Doesn’t have to be detriot, killorn isn’t Johnson, killorn was on pace for 60 points, he has a lot of value

Teams are actually considering signing mike Hoffman to a 6.5 mil deal, there will be teams who will take killorn

Here is what you fail to understand. From a rival teams perspective we can help Tampa IF we wanted to but why should we without getting paid to do it. IF no team helps Tampa before puck drop on the first day of the regular season Tampa forfeits and is not eligible for the playoffs. That means that the defending cup champs have no chance of repeating and lose any income IF fans are allowed at games at any point this season. Which will hurt the owners and likely force them to sell since they will be 2 years without income, perhaps 3 if they don't play the next year either due to no one helping with cap relief again. That is a hell of an insentive to rival teams to NOT help Tampa without being paid considerably to help.

Hoffman > Killorn. All day, Everyday.

Hoffman averages near 30 goals a year on mediocre Ottawa and Florida Teams. Killorn averages around 18 goals a year on a stacked Lightning team.

Teams also have to give up Nothing to get Hoffman.

Right then they can keep him, wings aren't taking these Contracts. If you read what I wrote, he has value to a playoff team, to the wings he's a Cap dump and they will pay, so you are incorrect

The trade says to Detroit not anyone so this logic is out the window

What the hell are you talking about dude? Wdym Tampa forfeits they need cap if they want to keep their rfas not so they can play

Why would they trade him to Detroit? Also he won’t waive for Detroit

All teams have to be cap compliant by puck drop on the first day of the regular season. Just read the article where Bill Daley said if a team is cap compliant they cannot play. so either they don't sign anyone or they go over and are forced to forfeit, either way it sucks to be Tampa if they choose not to pay for help.

you obviously have no sense of what a flat cap is so I'm also done with you.

All your analytics are meaningless due to the flat cap...all of them.

Bruh Tampa is cap compliment they have 3 mil to sign or call up 2 dmen then they have a full roster

Killorn has a better shooting % has more shooting talent, isn’t a complete liability defensively, is more effective on offense, can play pk, is more effective on the pp

Like I said. You have no idea what a flat cap is.

All of your well researched analytics are meaningless with the flat cap. All of it. Teams look at dollars and term and age in the flat cap world. Killorns dollars, term and age are painful for pretty much every team. Not to mention his NTC which wipes out half of teams that could potentially be traded with.

Did you forget the part where teams have interest in Hoffman for 6.5? Same age worse player

Bruh, So your saying your going to leave Sergachev, Cirelli and Cernak unsigned and force them to sit out for the season. Great plan that will make them want to resign in Tampa next season! Your only real options are 1. Trade a couple of good players for less than fair value. 2. pay someone significantly to take bad cap hits.

Did you forget the part where Hoffman hasn't actually been signed yet? In a normal year he would have been scooped up in free agency in a day or two. There's a reason why he's still available and that reason is the flat cap. If a team signs Hoffman to 6.5 million it will be a 1 year deal, term is everything. Teams won't touch Killorns Term with the flat cap.

And you think not playing any games is better like tf are you talking about ya tampa is trying to resign their rfas but they aren’t going to screw over the team in the process, they will pay to move Johnson but if any teams want killorn gourde or palat they gonna have to pay up