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Last Minute Escape from Cap Hell

Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 17, 2020
Published: Nov. 17, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
TBL trades for injured players, increasing off-season cap expenditures close to the max 10%. At end of training camp, TBL moves the injured players to LTIR and signs the young RFAs Cirelli, Sergachev and Cernak to contracts that fit within the $81.5 million cap.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
1$4,250,000
1$725,000
1$700,000
1$4,250,000
1$725,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Johnson, Tyler ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
Detroit agrees to leave Johnson exposed in Seattle expansion draft.
2.
CBJ
  1. Killorn, Alex
Additional Details:
Killorn replaces Nyquist
3.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,454,166$0$0$45,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$737,500$737,500
C
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,083,333$6,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.
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ok....
Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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u do realize that you have to include those players on LTIR as a real contract for day 1 of the NHL season...making you go over 16M over the cap
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Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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First Detroit doesn't have to do anything with Zetterbreg except move him to LTIR themselves so your not getting him and pawning Johnson on them for a just a 3rd! I don't think Columbus would do that Killorn trade without incentive (like say a minimum 2nd). you have the right idea with the Paquette trade though and Montreal would likely offer Fleury + 3rd for that package but I don't think Tampa fans will like that.
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Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:28 p.m.
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Zetterberg expires next year....why?
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Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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Even if BriseBois were to retain $1 million on Tyler Johnson, it would still cost more then a 3rd round pick to move him. And Detroit isn't dealing Zetterberg and i doubt Columbus moves Dubinsky and Ottawa move Gaborik.
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Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Wings pass, just cause they expose him doesn't mean seattle takes him. This will cost tampa a first a 2nd and a good prospect. They have major cap issues in a flat cap world. Wings are taking advantage of them or no go
Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:32 p.m.
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Why would tampa trade there best prospect for nothing in return
Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Let’s say all the trades do go through and LTIR rules didn’t exist. You’re running a 20 man roster with 45k in cap space.
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Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
u do realize that you have to include those players on LTIR as a real contract for day 1 of the NHL season...making you go over 16M over the cap


Think you worded this a bit weird but your general thought is incorrect.

A day 1 roster can be submitted with players on ltir. They do not need to be added to the main roster and do not count against the cap.

To the op, Tampa can also use offseason ltir. The relief is added on top of the 10% cushion. The only issue is that all of the contracts are insured and the teams will not give you value to take them.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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Wow, so bad. 20 man roster no cap. Yea maybe Killorn can. be traded but not Johnson. The usual absolutely meaningless trading of LTIR players
Nov. 17, 2020 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Think you worded this a bit weird but your general thought is incorrect.

A day 1 roster can be submitted with players on ltir. They do not need to be added to the main roster and do not count against the cap.

To the op, Tampa can also use offseason ltir. The relief is added on top of the 10% cushion. The only issue is that all of the contracts are insured and the teams will not give you value to take them.


No. LTIR is only good for cap space once the season starts. Its a paper transaction but those players on LTIR count against the cap until the paper transaction is done. This is why teams like WPG and STL are not signing higher cap hit players even if they need them(a random LD for WPG and Dunn for STL) and have the space with their players on LTIR
Nov. 17, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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Now I can see Johnson waiving for Seattle but not for Detroit. Plus there is absolutely no reason to move Zetterberg he is in the final season of his contract and only owed $1M which more than likely has already received.

LTIR
Nov. 17, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 17, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.
Quoting: Jetman
No. LTIR is only good for cap space once the season starts. Its a paper transaction but those players on LTIR count against the cap until the paper transaction is done. This is why teams like WPG and STL are not signing higher cap hit players even if they need them(a random LD for WPG and Dunn for STL) and have the space with their players on LTIR


Listen I don’t want to argue too long with you about this so please just take my word for it or read the cba. I have and I am getting tired of doing everyone’s leg work for them.

Teams can use offseason ltir and submit day 1 rosters with ltir and replacement players.

Consider Toronto last year with over 13m on ltir. Do you seriously think they whittled the cap down to 69m to make that fit? No, of corse not. That is because the ACSL can be set before day one and rosters can be submitted with ltir and replacemrnt players already added.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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Finally a Gaborik trade that makes sense. Good buffer for Cirelli, Cernak, and Sergachev.

Ottawa accepts, and that's a good offer for what you're getting, and you're getting what you need.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Dubinsky is on LTIR and covered by insurance. CBJ doesn't need to do any of that.

Nor do I think they want to carry his cap hit moving forward. They are throwing older players off their books, why would they take Killorn who is 31 with 3 years left.

TB would have to add a sweetener to that trade if they could even convince them to.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Even if BriseBois were to retain $1 million on Tyler Johnson, it would still cost more then a 3rd round pick to move him. And Detroit isn't dealing Zetterberg and i doubt Columbus moves Dubinsky and Ottawa move Gaborik.



Ottawa can move Gaborik because they are well above the cap floor now, and no where near the cap ceiling. Trading Gaborik saves $975K in salary paid out


Quoting: Bigboi69
Why would tampa trade there best prospect for nothing in return



Foote looks like a decent prospect, but if he's your best prospect, that's not good. I haven't checked the TBL top prospects list, but Foote is at best a second pair shutdown D, but probably a 4/5 shutdown D on a good team. That's not a bad prospect, just not a typical, teams best prospect. This is the reality of being a Stanley Cup team, you have to give up the future for now.

24 year old Jaros is a 6/7 D, a definite downgrade from Foote, and 23 year old Chlapik is NHL ready, and has a very achievable ceiling of 3C. Ottawa has so many good centre prospects that Chlapik has been in tough trying to get his chance. He may have been Ottawa's best defensive forward last season, in his 31 games, and he's always been able to score, eventually. You don't have to include Paquette, but this is about clearing cap space.

Chlapik's value is less than Foote, but you're getting Gaborik, which is needed. Jaros and Paquette just evens the trade and removes a little more cap.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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Columbus would need to move Killorn or someone when Nyquist comes back.... this trade isn’t happening because Nyquist isn’t LTIR for the full year and we need the majority of the cap room we have for PLD, who by far out weighs killorn in importance to Columbus.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 7:36 p.m.
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Overall I would agree with others, Detroit would take Johnson, but I really think even with retaining 1m the cost would be a 1st + a prospect that has NHL potential.
Nov. 17, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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None of these trades are really close. These teams aren't going to take on salary for nothing, especially with the financial ramifications of COVID. Columbus doesn't have the space for Killorn, Detroit isn't taking Johnson for a 3rd, and the Ottawa trade is actually bad for Tampa because Foote is probably NHL ready.
Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Ottawa can move Gaborik because they are well above the cap floor now, and no where near the cap ceiling. Trading Gaborik saves $975K in salary paid out

I don’t think you know much on foote, I’ve been watching the prospect pool of Tampa for a very long time, and although footes PNHLe has dropped since 2018 he’s still an amazing prospect, back in 2018 he was projected to be a superstar D-man, now he projects as a top paring D, not a #1 d-man but still a top paring guy, and for me it’s really between AB-B and foote for Tampa’s best prospect but foote is by no means just a shutdown guy, he is great in transition, great at exiting his zone has a great shot and hockey iq his only problem is he needs to work on his skating just like his brother which is the main reason why he isn’t also phenomenal at entering the offensive




Foote looks like a decent prospect, but if he's your best prospect, that's not good. I haven't checked the TBL top prospects list, but Foote is at best a second pair shutdown D, but probably a 4/5 shutdown D on a good team. That's not a bad prospect, just not a typical, teams best prospect. This is the reality of being a Stanley Cup team, you have to give up the future for now.

24 year old Jaros is a 6/7 D, a definite downgrade from Foote, and 23 year old Chlapik is NHL ready, and has a very achievable ceiling of 3C. Ottawa has so many good centre prospects that Chlapik has been in tough trying to get his chance. He may have been Ottawa's best defensive forward last season, in his 31 games, and he's always been able to score, eventually. You don't have to include Paquette, but this is about clearing cap space.

Chlapik's value is less than Foote, but you're getting Gaborik, which is needed. Jaros and Paquette just evens the trade and removes a little more cap.
 
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