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Sabres

Created by: Shibbal18
Initial Creation Date: Nov 3, 2020
Published: Nov 17, 2020 at 2:34
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mittelstadt, Casey2$874,125
Trades
BUF
  1. Hanifin, Noah
CGY
  1. Montour, Brandon
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Eric Staal: $1,625,000 (50%)
  • Taylor Hall: $4,000,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,998,334$1,487,500$4,337,500$1,501,666
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Hall, Taylor
$4,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$5,200,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$3,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Staal, Eric
$1,625,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 3
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
BUF
Rieder, Tobias
$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 4
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Irwin, Matt
$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2

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Nov 17, 2020 at 2:40
#1
Formerly Jamiepo
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Is this a revenge post for the bad Eichel trade? Flames are not doing this.
Nov 17, 2020 at 2:43
#2
Flames
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A rental and a bust are not worth anything to us jesus
Nov 17, 2020 at 3:38
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: Ansabch12
A rental and a bust are not worth anything to us jesus


Quoting: Jamiepo
Is this a revenge post for the bad Eichel trade? Flames are not doing this.


Hanifin is not much better than Montour, the only difference over the last 2 years is that Hanifin had much a better team:

https://public.tableau.com/shared/BNKNRWK6B?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link
Nov 17, 2020 at 3:39
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The Flames don't need two busts. They easily reject
Nov 17, 2020 at 3:40
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
The Flames don't need two busts. They easily reject


Montour is nearly the same as Hanifin
Nov 17, 2020 at 4:03
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Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Montour is nearly the same as Hanifin


Quoting: Shibbal18
Hanifin is not much better than Montour, the only difference over the last 2 years is that Hanifin had much a better team:

https://public.tableau.com/shared/BNKNRWK6B?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link


Sorry but hanifin is far better. Not a good idea for the flames to make this trade. I just really don’t see a good fit for a trade between these two teams since they signed tanev, kylington would probably be a good option. Not quite what you are looking for but could grow with the sabres. Fairly cheap option.
Nov 17, 2020 at 4:22
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Sorry but hanifin is far better. Not a good idea for the flames to make this trade. I just really don’t see a good fit for a trade between these two teams since they signed tanev, kylington would probably be a good option. Not quite what you are looking for but could grow with the sabres. Fairly cheap option.


No hes just overrated clearly, or Montour is severely underrated - probably a combination of the 2. The Sabres arent looking for someone that would grow with them (a 23 year old at that), theyre looking for an equal player to Montour but left handed. Mittlestadt for Kylington maybe, but Montour would just play on the left side and the Sabres already have a 7th D so sending him back to the A will do nothing for his development
Nov 17, 2020 at 4:35
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Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: Shibbal18
No hes just overrated clearly, or Montour is severely underrated - probably a combination of the 2. The Sabres arent looking for someone that would grow with them (a 23 year old at that), theyre looking for an equal player to Montour but left handed. Mittlestadt for Kylington maybe, but Montour would just play on the left side and the Sabres already have a 7th D so sending him back to the A will do nothing for his development


Issue is that they hanifin and yes, with no bias, he is better than montour.... and I like montour. Mitts
For kylington seems about right. Move montour somewhere else.

Personally I think the flyers would be a good partner. Ghost is severely underrated and his value is low low enough that sabres would be able to get away with a 1 for1 at least. A bigger package could get you sanheim.
Nov 17, 2020 at 7:23
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Issue is that they hanifin and yes, with no bias, he is better than montour.... and I like montour. Mitts
For kylington seems about right. Move montour somewhere else.

Personally I think the flyers would be a good partner. Ghost is severely underrated and his value is low low enough that sabres would be able to get away with a 1 for1 at least. A bigger package could get you sanheim.


Montour is much better than Ghost
Nov 17, 2020 at 7:25
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Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Montour is much better than Ghost


Not when ghost is healthy and on his game. He looked very good in the playoffs. Good cap hit and some term.
Nov 18, 2020 at 6:45
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Not when ghost is healthy and on his game. He looked very good in the playoffs. Good cap hit and some term.


He played 5 playoff games not nearly enough of a sample size to say anything. He hasn't been on his game for two seasons and appears to be regressing whether that be partly do to injury or not
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Nov 18, 2020 at 9:46
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Quoting: dzmets
He played 5 playoff games not nearly enough of a sample size to say anything. He hasn't been on his game for two seasons and appears to be regressing whether that be partly do to injury or not


Apparently he finally has his knee back to 100%. Sure it’s a gamble but it’s low risk high reward. Unless you think montour is going to er sign but that is doubtful.
Nov 18, 2020 at 10:37
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Apparently he finally has his knee back to 100%. Sure it’s a gamble but it’s low risk high reward. Unless you think montour is going to er sign but that is doubtful.


I would rather have the year of Montour and let him walk than trade him 1 for 1 for Ghost
Nov 18, 2020 at 12:07
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Apparently he finally has his knee back to 100%. Sure it’s a gamble but it’s low risk high reward. Unless you think montour is going to er sign but that is doubtful.


The risk is the contract 4.5 x 3. That is alot of dead cap to deal with if he does not come back to form, especially considering the Sabres have to resign Hall, Reinhart, Dahlin, Jokiharju and Ullmark next offseason
Nov 18, 2020 at 1:18
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Quoting: dzmets
The risk is the contract 4.5 x 3. That is alot of dead cap to deal with if he does not come back to form, especially considering the Sabres have to resign Hall, Reinhart, Dahlin, Jokiharju and Ullmark next offseason


I hope for nothing but the best for the sabres. Grew up 15 min from Buffalo. But I’m going to be honest, I can’t see hall re signing in buffalo.

Dahlin-jokiharju
Gostisbehere-miller
McCabe-Risto

Would be a solid core. If you you do need cap space beyond McCabe walking you still have the option of moving Risto.

To me getting Ghost who would be no worse than montour with term for cheaper than you could sign montour wouldn’t be horrible. Especially if you could get something extra back and play ghost off as a cap dump.
Nov 18, 2020 at 2:20
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I hope for nothing but the best for the sabres. Grew up 15 min from Buffalo. But I’m going to be honest, I can’t see hall re signing in buffalo.

Dahlin-jokiharju
Gostisbehere-miller
McCabe-Risto

Would be a solid core. If you you do need cap space beyond McCabe walking you still have the option of moving Risto.

To me getting Ghost who would be no worse than montour with term for cheaper than you could sign montour wouldn’t be horrible. Especially if you could get something extra back and play ghost off as a cap dump.


Would rather play Montour on his offside then have Ghost. Montour is not getting 4.5 AAV unless he has an all star season on a flat cap. If he does then it was worth keeping him even if he walks after the year. If he has a solid year he maxes out at 4.1 or 4.2 for 2 - 3 yrs term max. I doubt Montour resigns unless the Sabres move a couple of right D to allow him to play on his strong side. Even if he doesn't they have 3 - 4 defenseman coming that should be ready to take a couple of roster spots by the 21 - 22 season and it just makes no sense to acquire a player with term unless he is a large upgrade. Which Ghost is definitely not.
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Nov 18, 2020 at 2:29
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I hope for nothing but the best for the sabres. Grew up 15 min from Buffalo. But I’m going to be honest, I can’t see hall re signing in buffalo.

Dahlin-jokiharju
Gostisbehere-miller
McCabe-Risto

Would be a solid core. If you you do need cap space beyond McCabe walking you still have the option of moving Risto.

To me getting Ghost who would be no worse than montour with term for cheaper than you could sign montour wouldn’t be horrible. Especially if you could get something extra back and play ghost off as a cap dump.


Hall resigns if he has a career year and they can dump Okposo, so its plausible. Seattle takes Okposo and Buffalo leaves Risto unprotected
Nov 18, 2020 at 2:40
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Hall resigns if he has a career year and they can dump Okposo, so its plausible. Seattle takes Okposo and Buffalo leaves Risto unprotected


I just don’t see hall re signing, didn’t really see him signing there in the first place so I could certainly be wrong.
 
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