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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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    Why is Ladd on LTIR
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
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    Gonna have to add in bellows or wilde to the wings deal
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: Kratsov_Stan
    Why is Ladd on LTIR


    Seems to a common CF theme. Don't want a player put him LTIR. Same with players waiving their NTC, or even M NTCs are willing to be traded to bottom feeding teams with cap.
    Doubt if Boychuk is waiving to Wings
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Seems to a common CF theme. Don't want a player put him LTIR. Same with players waiving their NTC, or even M NTCs are willing to be traded to bottom feeding teams with cap.
    Doubt if Boychuk is waiving to Wings


    Quoting: Kratsov_Stan
    Why is Ladd on LTIR


    Incorrect @PalHal there is reason to believe this one. Aside from Ladd's lengthy injury history (3 ACL surgeries and a back issue) there are rumblings that Robidas Island is coming. Read between the lines

    https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1325822513490882561?s=20
    https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1326894156556488704?s=20
    https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1326927019859447809?s=20

    https://theathletic.com/2190896/2020/11/11/islanders-depth-chart/ -- Arthur Staple using Ladd on LTIR

    I'm trying to find another article from The Athletic, I believe it was LeBrun or Pronman, but the author interviewed a current NHL exec who specifically mentioned "Robidas Island" coming back to New York
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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    Quoting: joshelkin
    Incorrect @PalHal there is reason to believe this one. Aside from Ladd's lengthy injury history (3 ACL surgeries and a back issue) there are rumblings that Robidas Island is coming. Read between the lines

    https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1325822513490882561?s=20
    https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1326894156556488704?s=20
    https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1326927019859447809?s=20

    https://theathletic.com/2190896/2020/11/11/islanders-depth-chart/ -- Arthur Staple using Ladd on LTIR

    I'm trying to find another article from The Athletic, I believe it was LeBrun or Pronman, but the author interviewed a current NHL exec who specifically mentioned "Robidas Island" coming back to New York

    Those NHL Rumor Daily tweets don’t specify a player though.I don’t have the Athletic so I can’t comment on the content.

    I could see a first with a minor addition to offload Boychuk since it’s 12M cap and 5.25M cash.
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: BStinson
    Those NHL Rumor Daily tweets don’t specify a player though.I don’t have the Athletic so I can’t comment on the content.

    I could see a first with a minor addition to offload Boychuk since it’s 12M cap and 5.25M cash.


    I agree that the player is vague, but odds are it's the guy who was exiled to BPT to ride buses all season. Don't think Ladd wants to finish his career that way anyways. He does have lengthy injury history, so even if he *could* play (AHL) hockey I don't think he would fight the designation of LTIR. Stay home with your kids and collect a check
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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    Lou Lam's Robidas Island...

    https://youtu.be/D_w9nb6bGok
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: Letter_Kenny
    Lou Lam's Robidas Island...

    https://youtu.be/D_w9nb6bGok


    That was incredible. Need an updated one now more than I need oxygen
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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    You could get hoffman for cheaper
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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    Gonna have to add in bellows or wilde to the wings deal


    Do you understand trade value?????
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 9:26 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Do you understand trade value?????


    Sure do, we got a 2nd for 1 year of staal. This is 2 years and a higher Contract value. The islanders are also in a cap crunch to sign barzal so during this flat cap we will be squeezing them for everything we can to accept their contract. You can provide wilde or bellows or something similar like bolduc or you can keep boychuck with 0 chance of signing barzal.

    If you say no that's completely fine, we keep our cap space and move on this season with no problems where as on the island they won't have their star player and #1 center
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.
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    Sure do, we got a 2nd for 1 year of staal. This is 2 years and a higher Contract value. The islanders are also in a cap crunch to sign barzal so during this flat cap we will be squeezing them for everything we can to accept their contract. You can provide wilde or bellows or something similar like bolduc or you can keep boychuck with 0 chance of signing barzal.

    If you say no that's completely fine, we keep our cap space and move on this season with no problems where as on the island they won't have their star player and #1 center


    The fact that you compared the trade value of wilde and bolduc is mind boggling. It proves i was 100% right and you should do some research on islanders prospects before talking about them.
    With regard to our cap situation, rumor is ladd is going on ltir. Even if he doesnt we could move hickey and komarov and be ok. And even if we have to move boychuck his cap hit is 300k more than staal (pretty much the same) for double the time. But two seconds dont necessarily make a first so a first should do it maybe a little more, certainly not also a grade A prospect.
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    The fact that you compared the trade value of wilde and bolduc is mind boggling. It proves i was 100% right and you should do some research on islanders prospects before talking about them.
    With regard to our cap situation, rumor is ladd is going on ltir. Even if he doesnt we could move hickey and komarov and be ok. And even if we have to move boychuck his cap hit is 300k more than staal (pretty much the same) for double the time. But two seconds dont necessarily make a first so a first should do it maybe a little more, certainly not also a grade A prospect.


    Great story, love the insults. You can keep boychuck and have fun signing barzal. Ladd won't be on ltir, he proved he can play last year and he was about to get traded for parise last season before it fell apart at the end. Can't put him on ltir if he doesn't agree, he still wants to play, can't force him.

    By the way none of them are A prospects guy. Bellows just failed performance enhancement test, hasn't made the isles with plenty of chances and has been an incredibly streaky scorer in the ahl. Wilde struggled in the ahl so bad that he went back to juniors where he was good offensively and stunk defensively. Bolduc is intriguing because he is great defensively and added some offensive flair this past season in the Q, I think he's best if the 3 but none are A prospects. an A prospect is Byram, mcmichael, hayton, ty smith, zegras etc. and none of them are that level
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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    Great story, love the insults. You can keep boychuck and have fun signing barzal. Ladd won't be on ltir, he proved he can play last year and he was about to get traded for parise last season before it fell apart at the end. Can't put him on ltir if he doesn't agree, he still wants to play, can't force him.

    By the way none of them are A prospects guy. Bellows just failed performance enhancement test, hasn't made the isles with plenty of chances and has been an incredibly streaky scorer in the ahl. Wilde struggled in the ahl so bad that he went back to juniors where he was good offensively and stunk defensively. Bolduc is intriguing because he is great defensively and added some offensive flair this past season in the Q, I think he's best if the 3 but none are A prospects. an A prospect is Byram, mcmichael, hayton, ty smith, zegras etc. and none of them are that level


    An A level prospect is lafrenierre and none of them are on his level so theyre not A level prospects???????? Also if bellows took peds intentionally the suspension wouldve been a lot longer. This is another nate schmidt situation.
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    An A level prospect is lafrenierre and none of them are on his level so theyre not A level prospects???????? Also if bellows took peds intentionally the suspension wouldve been a lot longer. This is another nate schmidt situation.


    Either way they aren't A prospects. Bolduc is a B, bellows is a B- and wilde is a C+ at this point. None of them help the isles in a big way anytime soon so moving them to keep barzal is prob a good move. Lafreniere isn't the only A prospect out there, the guys I named are also A
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: buffbry
    Great story, love the insults. You can keep boychuck and have fun signing barzal. Ladd won't be on ltir, he proved he can play last year and he was about to get traded for parise last season before it fell apart at the end. Can't put him on ltir if he doesn't agree, he still wants to play, can't force him.

    By the way none of them are A prospects guy. Bellows just failed performance enhancement test, hasn't made the isles with plenty of chances and has been an incredibly streaky scorer in the ahl. Wilde struggled in the ahl so bad that he went back to juniors where he was good offensively and stunk defensively. Bolduc is intriguing because he is great defensively and added some offensive flair this past season in the Q, I think he's best if the 3 but none are A prospects. an A prospect is Byram, mcmichael, hayton, ty smith, zegras etc. and none of them are that level


    Ladd would be just fine going on ltir hes hated here. Also he wasnt getting traded for parise it was going to be a first and A level bellows to move ladds terrible contract and pick up parise. Would agree with you that hes fit to play but there are some pretty solid rumors that someone big is going on ltir for the isles.
    Bellows didnt take peds intentionally oyherwise his suspension wouldve been longer. Looking at another nate schmidt situation. Lafrenierre is an A level prospect and none of those guys are on his level so theyre not A level prospects???????
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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    Either way they aren't A prospects. Bolduc is a B, bellows is a B- and wilde is a C+ at this point. None of them help the isles in a big way anytime soon so moving them to keep barzal is prob a good move. Lafreniere isn't the only A prospect out there, the guys I named are also A


    C+???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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    Bolduc is a B agreed. Wilde is an A and bellows at worst is an A-
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.
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    Wilde is an A
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
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    LGI
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: buffbry
    Either way they aren't A prospects. Bolduc is a B, bellows is a B- and wilde is a C+ at this point. None of them help the isles in a big way anytime soon so moving them to keep barzal is prob a good move. Lafreniere isn't the only A prospect out there, the guys I named are also A


    My point exactly in every tier there are some players that are better than others.
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Bolduc is a B agreed. Wilde is an A and bellows at worst is an A-
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Bolduc is a B agreed. Wilde is an A and bellows at worst is an A-
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Bolduc is a B agreed. Wilde is an A and bellows at worst is an A-
    Nov. 20, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Bolduc is a B agreed. Wilde is an A and bellows at worst is an A-


    Everyone rates prospects differently and I’d wager you’re pretty liberal in your grading of prospects. Like would you say Dobson and Wilde are comparable as A prospects?
     
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