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Realistic point totals

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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2020
Published: Nov. 18, 2020
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Eichel: 35 goals, 71 assists, 106 points
Hall: 24 goals, 55 assists, 79 points
Reinhart: 26 goals, 44 assists, 70 points
Skinner: 40 goals, 20 assists, 60 points
Olofsson: 24 goals, 28 assists, 52 points
Staal: 18 goals, 29 assists, 47 points
Thompson: 12 goals, 24 assists, 36 points
Cozens: 16 goals, 25 assists, 41 points
Eakin: 10 goals, 20 assists, 30 points
Girgensons: 11 goals, 13 assists, 24 points
Lazar: 6 goals, 9 assists, 15 points
Okposo: 13 goals, 13 assists, 26 points

Dahlin: 9 goals, 53 assists, 62 points
Jokiharju: 3 goals, 30 assists, 33 points
Ristolainen: 11 goals, 30 assists, 41 points
Miller: 5 goals, 20 assists, 25 points
McCabe: 3 goals, 12 assists, 15 points
Montour: 7 goals, 21 assists, 28 points
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:53 a.m.
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VO's goal total should be higher
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Your point totals are nowhere close to being realistic, need to remember at most that it's only going to be a 48 to 60 game season probably need to cut those expectations by a 1/3.
Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Your point totals are nowhere close to being realistic, need to remember at most that it's only going to be a 48 to 60 game season probably need to cut those expectations by a 1/3.


this is based of 82 game season
Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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Sorry you lost me when I saw you thought Eichel could get 106 points. His career high is 82. Buffalo fans have always overvalued Eichel. McDavid>Draisaitl/MacKinnon(they're tied or Draisaitl better(hart,ted lindsay, art ross speak for itself))>Crosby>Matthews>Bergeron>Eichel...
Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:56 a.m.
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VO's goal total should be higher


Depends who he is playing with IMO. With Eichel give me at least 30+ for him but with Staal or even on the 3rd line i'm betting on 25ish
Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Sorry you lost me when I saw you thought Eichel could get 106 points. His career high is 82. Buffalo fans have always overvalued Eichel. McDavid>Draisaitl/MacKinnon(they're tied or Draisaitl better(hart,ted lindsay, art ross speak for itself))>Crosby>Matthews>Bergeron>Eichel...


Overvalued? Hes a top 10 player in the league. With a better team this year he is getting at least 100...
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
this is based of 82 game season


Well yeah i figured that, but they're not playing an 82 game schedule this season. So you should be basing it on a 60 game schedule instead. Just to be more accurate.
Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
Overvalued? Hes a top 10 player in the league. With a better team this year he is getting at least 100...


He is not top 10. I do my best to stay unbiased to my team but let's be realistic here. Top 20 sure, not top 10...
Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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Depends who he is playing with IMO. With Eichel give me at least 30+ for him but with Staal or even on the 3rd line i'm betting on 25ish


my guess is he plays with hall and eichel...if that's the case in a normal 82 game season the kid is putting up 35. two elite playmakers next to someone with the shot that VO has...deadly.
Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:14 a.m.
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He is not top 10. I do my best to stay unbiased to my team but let's be realistic here. Top 20 sure, not top 10...


how is jack not top 10??? i'd love to hear your top 10...
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.
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He is not top 10. I do my best to stay unbiased to my team but let's be realistic here. Top 20 sure, not top 10...


Top 10 players in not order: McDavid, Drasaitl, Mackinnon, Matthews, Panarin, Eichel, Pastrnak, Kucherov, Crosby, Kane. Please tell me who is better than Eichel and should be on that list rather than him? You are delusional to think hes not a top 10 player in the league. He takes over games with no supporting cast around him
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
Top 10 players in not order: McDavid, Drasaitl, Mackinnon, Matthews, Panarin, Eichel, Pastrnak, Kucherov, Crosby, Kane. Please tell me who is better than Eichel and should be on that list rather than him? You are delusional to think hes not a top 10 player in the league. He takes over games with no supporting cast around him


Quoting: YEGBRAD
Sorry you lost me when I saw you thought Eichel could get 106 points. His career high is 82. Buffalo fans have always overvalued Eichel. McDavid>Draisaitl/MacKinnon(they're tied or Draisaitl better(hart,ted lindsay, art ross speak for itself))>Crosby>Matthews>Bergeron>Eichel...


As an unbiased 3rd party, I'd say Eichel is top 10 and could crack 100 points (in an 82 game season). This past year he had 78 points (36 G + 42 A) in 68 GP. At that pace he *should've* hit 94 points in an 82 game season. He's been getting better every year and with another star player like Hall (even if they don't play together) he could reach higher.
Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:38 a.m.
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Just a few comments after reading the thread

Eichel is for sure a top 10 player. Edmonton would trade Draisatl for Eichel in a heartbeat. The Rangers would do the same with Panarin.
Eichel can reach 100 points this season
Skinner won't get 40 goals though
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: YEGBRAD
Sorry you lost me when I saw you thought Eichel could get 106 points. His career high is 82. Buffalo fans have always overvalued Eichel. McDavid>Draisaitl/MacKinnon(they're tied or Draisaitl better(hart,ted lindsay, art ross speak for itself))>Crosby>Matthews>Bergeron>Eichel...


You’re center rankings are awful, consensus’s top 10 by people who understand hockey is, mcdavid, mackinnon, Matthews,petty,point, Crosby, drai, eichel, malkin,orielly or couturier, Bergeron hasent been a top 10 center in years
Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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Just a few comments after reading the thread

Eichel is for sure a top 10 player. Edmonton would trade Draisatl for Eichel in a heartbeat. The Rangers would do the same with Panarin.
Eichel can reach 100 points this season
Skinner won't get 40 goals though

Ya panarin for eichel maybe because of panarin Sns age and term but def not drai for eichel
Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Mwasylko34
Top 10 players in not order: McDavid, Drasaitl, Mackinnon, Matthews, Panarin, Eichel, Pastrnak, Kucherov, Crosby, Kane. Please tell me who is better than Eichel and should be on that list rather than him? You are delusional to think hes not a top 10 player in the league. He takes over games with no supporting cast around him


Bruh Kane isn’t top 30
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Hall didn’t sign with buffalo to play with Eric staal
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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Ya panarin for eichel maybe because of panarin Sns age and term but def not drai for eichel


Eichel is far better player than Draisatl. He's younger, plays a more complete game and has far less talent to work with in Buffalo and still manages to put up big points. If Eichel and McDavid were on the same team Edmonton would turn into the next dynasty franchise

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Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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Eichel is far better player than Draisatl. He's younger, plays a more complete game and has far less talent to work with in Buffalo and still manages to put up big points. If Eichel and McDavid were on the same team Edmonton would turn into the next dynasty franchise

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Yes drais D analytics are really bad but he’s the best offensive player in the league according to those same analytics
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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Yes drais D analytics are really bad but he’s the best offensive player in the league according to those same analytics


Right but if his deficiencies nearly wipe out all the positives his offense brings then he's not worth nearly as much Eichel who brings a ton of offense and is still defensively sound.
Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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Right but if his deficiencies nearly wipe out all the positives his offense brings then he's not worth nearly as much Eichel who brings a ton of offense and is still defensively sound.


It surprisingly actually doesn’t, according to analytics and stats he’s so damn good at offense that he makes up for his bad D and then still some, if he was half decent at defense he would be above guys like Matthews petty and point in center ranking
Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:11 a.m.
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Just a few comments after reading the thread

Eichel is for sure a top 10 player. Edmonton would trade Draisatl for Eichel in a heartbeat. The Rangers would do the same with Panarin.
Eichel can reach 100 points this season
Skinner won't get 40 goals though


Skinner had a career low shooting percentage and still led the team in quality chances playing with pretty bad players too. He only played with jack the last two games of the season. I think he will have a nice bounce back year. The improvements to the top 6 will help too.
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Sabres923
Skinner had a career low shooting percentage and still led the team in quality chances playing with pretty bad players too. He only played with jack the last two games of the season. I think he will have a nice bounce back year. The improvements to the top 6 will help too.


I think he'll have a bounce back year. I don't think that's as high as 40 goals though
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Right but if his deficiencies nearly wipe out all the positives his offense brings then he's not worth nearly as much Eichel who brings a ton of offense and is still defensively sound.


I saw his two way game improve last year, a lot of just because of necessity. The center depth behind eichel last year was below replacement level, most of the forwards not on his line were just useless. I dont see draisitl play enough to comment, but eichels overall game, not just points, took a big step last season.
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Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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It surprisingly actually doesn’t, according to analytics and stats he’s so damn good at offense that he makes up for his bad D and then still some, if he was half decent at defense he would be above guys like Matthews petty and point in center ranking


I'm not saying Draisatl is a net negative to his team but if you don't trust him in the D zone that limits how much value he holds especially when 1C has a similar issue (but his offense is so absurd no one cares). In Edmonton Draisatl usually either plays with the best player in the world or gets to feast on opposing teams 2nd/3rd pair defenseman since the the top pair are usually preoccupied with McDavid. I know he did well when McDavid was out this season but that's still a small sample size.

Eichel does it all with far less support. If he we're on Edmonton it would honestly be disgusting how badly McDavid and Eichel would dominate this league
 
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