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Im willing to die on this mountain

Created by: Bigboi69
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2020
Published: Nov. 18, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This might not be the most realistic but hey Tampa is rumored to be making two huge trades real soon so we will see
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
3$4,500,000
3$750,000
3$750,000
5$6,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
2.
TBL
  1. 2021 5th round pick (BUF)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2023 5th round pick (NJD)
3.
TBL
  1. 2021 5th round pick (PHI)
4.
TBL
    Future considerations
    Ottawa gets a vet dman
    5.
    FLA
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. Lipanov, Alexey
    3. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    Logo of the NSH
    Logo of the NJD
    2022
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the CBJ
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    2023
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    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
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    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the TBL
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$80,088,425$0$500,000$1,411,575
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $759,258$759,258
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Florida Panthers
    $1,666,667$1,666,667
    C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $900,000$900,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $925,000$925,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    G
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $737,500$737,500
    C
    UFA - 2
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.
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    I like it.

    Does TB have any internal promotion candidates? Like Johnson, Palat, Gourde, etc.
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 8:43 p.m.
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    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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    every team declines.
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 8:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: A_Habs_fan
    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates

    Palat is better
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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    "Im doing my best". ???? Does anyone really think all those NTC players on Tampa leave the Cup champs just to end their careers on poor teams?
    The big trades will be those unsigned RFAs
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 9:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    "Im doing my best". ???? Does anyone really think all those NTC players on Tampa leave the Cup champs just to end their careers on poor teams?
    The big trades will be those unsigned RFAs


    Yeah but most Tampa Fans believe there is an easy way out of their mess. But when you 9-11 Mil cap space to sign 3 top shelf RFA's and basically all the expensive contracts have trade protection there is no EASY way out.
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: pharrow
    every team declines.


    You make me laugh
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: A_Habs_fan
    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates

    Palat is much better
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    "Im doing my best". ???? Does anyone really think all those NTC players on Tampa leave the Cup champs just to end their careers on poor teams?
    The big trades will be those unsigned RFAs


    Would you rather get sent to a team that wants to trade for you or get put on waivers and hope a team picks you up if not spend the rest of your contract in the minors?
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Yeah but most Tampa Fans believe there is an easy way out of their mess. But when you 9-11 Mil cap space to sign 3 top shelf RFA's and basically all the expensive contracts have trade protection there is no EASY way out.


    Yes their is, it’s called waivers
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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    No chance Habs are interested
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: A_Habs_fan
    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates


    Palat is better and is signed for less term
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: moli92
    Palat is better and is signed for less term


    Palat is a negative value and sharks are not paying a 2nd for you’re cap dump! Sorry but Palat like Johnson will take a 1st if not more to move.
    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Revans292
    Palat is a negative value and sharks are not paying a 2nd for you’re cap dump! Sorry but Palat like Johnson will take a 1st if not more to move.


    I'm not a TBL fan or the poster of this AGM so he's not my cap dump

    I disagree about the negative value though. It'll be hard to find a suitor for him now that they waited so long but he's still good enough to justify paying him 5.3M. If I was Sakic then I would've been happy to put him on the Avs before Saad filled that role
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    Nov. 18, 2020 at 11:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: moli92
    I'm not a TBL fan or the poster of this AGM so he's not my cap dump

    I disagree about the negative value though. It'll be hard to find a suitor for him now that they waited so long but he's still good enough to justify paying him 5.3M. If I was Sakic then I would've been happy to put him on the Avs before Saad filled that role


    No doubt he’s a good player but in my opinion his value is closer to 3.7-4.25 per year not 5.3 I feel he is overpaid and knowing Tampa needs to move him to sign other players makes me not want to give anything of value.
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    Nov. 19, 2020 at 1:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Would you rather get sent to a team that wants to trade for you or get put on waivers and hope a team picks you up if not spend the rest of your contract in the minors?


    no team is picking up these guys on waivers. Just like they didn't do TJ.
    They aren't worth the cap hits. Gourde isn't worth 5.1 million for 5 years. Palat isn't worth 5.3, he's hasn't even been a 20 goal scorer for the last 6 seasons. 20 goal guys make 3-3.5...why the hell would they pay 5.3 for one?
    Paquette is a 4th liner. No one is trading for that.
    Coburn is done. he's gonna be 36 with declining play and battling injuries at 35+ isn't helping.
    Even at one year, a team would need defensive help before running out to get him and he's have to waive....which isn't gonna happen.
    He's probably the most moveable piece there. But even that's unrealistic.

    Dumping them in the AHL doesn't solve their problems. it saves what1 million in cap. That isn't going to do it which is why it won't happen.

    Teams aren't taking these deals without TB paying and probably retaining. You might be able to move Palat at 3.5, if teams are willing to over look the injuries the last 3 years.
    But with a hand full of teams able to afford that cap hit, most of them probably unwilling to take it without getting something, good luck.
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    Nov. 19, 2020 at 7:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: BorisBagel
    No chance Habs are interested


    Lol all habs fans do is complain about their team being too weak they would love yhis
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 7:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: pharrow
    no team is picking up these guys on waivers. Just like they didn't do TJ.
    They aren't worth the cap hits. Gourde isn't worth 5.1 million for 5 years. Palat isn't worth 5.3, he's hasn't even been a 20 goal scorer for the last 6 seasons. 20 goal guys make 3-3.5...why the hell would they pay 5.3 for one?
    Paquette is a 4th liner. No one is trading for that.
    Coburn is done. he's gonna be 36 with declining play and battling injuries at 35+ isn't helping.
    Even at one year, a team would need defensive help before running out to get him and he's have to waive....which isn't gonna happen.
    He's probably the most moveable piece there. But even that's unrealistic.

    Dumping them in the AHL doesn't solve their problems. it saves what1 million in cap. That isn't going to do it which is why it won't happen.

    Teams aren't taking these deals without TB paying and probably retaining. You might be able to move Palat at 3.5, if teams are willing to over look the injuries the last 3 years.
    But with a hand full of teams able to afford that cap hit, most of them probably unwilling to take it without getting something, good luck.


    Lol you obviously don’t know anything about these players palat is a top 6 guy, gourde is a top 6 guy, you don’t get a top 6 guy for cheap look at Hoffman, Johnson wasn’t picked up off waivers because he’s been aging badly, the other 3 have not teams would pick them up in a heart beat
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    As you can see from all of his comments Bigboi69 THINKS he knows everything and everyone else is just stupid. Everytime someone disagrees with one of his comments his response is "you know nothing about hockey" or "your stupid" or he calls you a 12 year old or 6th grader. The guy has some serious self esteem issues, he has to insult everyone rather than just have a conversation. Just look back through all of his conversations with anyone who disagrees with him.


    Ahh yes the “bigger man” has returned I would like you to go back and find where I called them 6th graders or 12. And if I had self esteem issues I would have submitted to them and lol I call them stupid or said they know nothing after telling them why they are wrong you say I don’t have actual arguments which is false, now go be salty somewhere else or ima put you on the ignore list
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Ahh yes the “bigger man” has returned I would like you to go back and find where I called them 6th graders or 12. And if I had self esteem issues I would have submitted to them and lol I call them stupid or said they know nothing after telling them why they are wrong you say I don’t have actual arguments which is false, now go be salty somewhere else or ima put you on the ignore list


    OH PLEASE do cause you will just prove my point LMAO!!!
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    OH PLEASE do cause you will just prove my point LMAO!!!


    What point? You make things up to get a reaction. Bye bye
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    What point? You make things up to get a reaction. Bye bye


    LMAO that you can not accept that maybe another person on the planet knows as much as you do or more.
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.
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    Wow You’re stupid palat has very high value especially after that playoff run, he will get a first before Tampa pays anything to move him


    How very rude of you, reverting to name calling doesn’t make you right. If he is worth a 1st they would have traded him already as they need the space badly or they are going to lose their RFA but what do I know?
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    Nov. 19, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: Revans292
    How very rude of you, reverting to name calling doesn’t make you right. If he is worth a 1st they would have traded him already as they need the space badly or they are going to lose their RFA but what do I know?


    Bruh if it weren’t a flat cap palat gets a first now that there’s a flat cap he gets a 2nd to 3rd but you thinking that he has negative value means you just don’t know anything
    Nov. 19, 2020 at 12:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Bruh if it weren’t a flat cap palat gets a first now that there’s a flat cap he gets a 2nd to 3rd but you thinking that he has negative value means you just don’t know anything


    Really!!! Then why hasn’t he Been dealt? Why Hasn’t Johnson?
    The flat cap, the uncertain future of the cap and both their long term and diminishing play make them negative values, no were near the Vlasic scale obviously but negative none the less. Tampa’s desperation to shed salary also plays into this as well
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