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Penguins in 5 years after THE ERA

Created by: Pens3lieve
Initial Creation Date: Nov 22, 2020
Published: Nov 23, 2020 at 11:20
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
will Sid/Geno/Tanger be retired then? IDK but here's the team Post their Era....

some deadline deals maybe to get some assets back....
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Next, Superstar1$800,000
Blomqvist, Joel1$800,000
Trades
PIT
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
B prospect
CGY
  1. Rust, Bryan
PIT
  1. 2023 4th round pick (EDM)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
C Prospect
EDM
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
PIT
  1. 2023 5th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Riikola, Juuso
PIT
  1. 2023 4th round pick (MTL)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
PIT
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
B prospect
OTT
  1. Zucker, Jason
PIT
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
B prospect
VAN
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Sidney Crosby: $7,625,000 ($8,700,000)
  • Evgeni Malkin: $8,425,000 ($9,500,000)
  • Kris Letang: $6,175,000 ($7,250,000)
  • Colton Sceviour: $125,000 ($1,200,000)
  • Cody Ceci: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
MTL
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
CGY
EDM
PIT
OTT
VAN
PIT
EDM
MTL
PIT
LAK
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$64,752,257$0$2,770,000$16,747,743
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Next, Superstar
$800,000
PIT
Poulin, Samuel
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 3
PIT
Björkqvist, Kasper
$792,500
LW
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Légaré, Nathan
$795,000
RW
RFA - 3
PIT
O'Connor, Drew
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Gruden, Jonathan
$788,333
LW
RFA - 3
PIT
Almeida, Justin
$809,166
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Zohorna, Radim
$792,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
PIT
Maniscalco, Joshua
$853,333
RD
RFA - 3
Blomqvist, Joel
$800,000
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
PIT
Reilly, Will
$806,250
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Lindgren, Jesper
$775,833
RD
RFA - 1
PIT
Lee, Cameron
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
PIT
Miletic, Sam
$700,000
LW, C
RFA - 1

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Nov 23, 2020 at 11:22
#1
Hockey IQ
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@BradTolliverGoalie @mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @NoWah49 @Marcsnack @MitchMarnerElite @hockeygm @Geno_the_Hero @dgfresh78 @Marino4Norris @Yojimbo @penguindude87 @PensGM2019 @Theozler @gmack95 @Eddy @HockeyTownUSA69 @Sid_the_kid_875948 @penslover8771 @PGHBOB69

thoughts on the POST-Sid/geno/tanger era??? which prospects will make it and to what level? I hope the pens go for a total teardown and sell off all assets and go right to the bottom.
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Nov 23, 2020 at 11:37
#2
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Edited Nov 23, 2020 at 12:05
Quoting: Pens3lieve
@BradTolliverGoalie @mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @NoWah49 @Marcsnack @MitchMarnerElite @hockeygm @Geno_the_Hero @dgfresh78 @Marino4Norris @Yojimbo @penguindude87 @PensGM2019 @Theozler @gmack95 @Eddy @HockeyTownUSA69 @Sid_the_kid_875948 @penslover8771 @PGHBOB69

thoughts on the POST-Sid/geno/tanger era??? which prospects will make it and to what level? I hope the pens go for a total teardown and sell off all assets and go right to the bottom.


I’m alittle higher on Almeida. Look at his stats. I think he’s a 3C ceiling. I’m hoping O’Connor, Maniscalco, Cam lee can produce this year or next. I think Poulin, Legare, PO-Joseph are The Pens only for sure NHL players though.

And I’m higher on Judd Caufield than R.Zohorna, just look at their stats so far in the leagues they have played in. Caulfield produces.

And I’m higher than most on E.Larmi. I think he’s an NHL goalie. Especially b4 Blomqvist or Clang.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/245573/justin-almeida

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/444997/judd-caulfield

Just look at their stats. Sure a lot of them are U18 leagues. But I’m a big believer in on ice stats and not potential. Like in Football, I’m not a big combine guy. I would rather see an under-sized player do it on the field. Not that Caulfield is under-sized, he is huge(6’4, 210), Just like Zoharna(6’6, 235). But Almeidia is a bit under-sized at 5’11 170. But I don’t see a huge difference in 5’10-5’11 and 6’0-6’1. As long as he can put on some weight. And get up to 185-190. 5’11, 185 is good enough size.

Valtteri Puustinen is a stud too. He’s producing in Liiga. A top 5 league, besides the NHL, in the world.

https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/6/21551664/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-11-valtteri-puustinen
Nov 23, 2020 at 12:47
#3
timsmith8766
Joined: Jan 2017
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Oof, I don't even want to picture these days. It'll be cold. Maybe hope to get that next young star and lure a big fish free agent with our "young core" of guys we have now.
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Nov 23, 2020 at 12:52
#4
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Almost worse than DET ... almost
Nov 23, 2020 at 12:58
#5
Leafs fan...sorry
Joined: Jul 2019
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Pens fans are so privileged with Mario/Jagr/Sid/Geno that they just assume they'll get another superstar
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Nov 23, 2020 at 1:16
#6
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Matheson will be gone by then.
POJ will be gone too. He won't be NHL ready while this team is competitive, so if they can move him later for something, he's gone.
They are set in their top 4 for a long time anyway with Dumo/Marino, Pettersson/Maniscalco.
Defense and goaltending will not be what holds this team back.

If anything I think this team turns into CBJ when Sid and Geno retire. They will play physical hockey. You can see the pieces already starting to come together. OConnor, Caufield, Björkqvist, Légaré, Poulin, Tanev, Zohorna if he can ever make it. All those guys spell, hard to play against. You will get a physical match up. Big physical, not giving an inch.
They won't be winning no cups, but they will at least be physical enough to be competative.
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Nov 23, 2020 at 1:44
#7
Serf
Joined: Jun 2016
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PIT
2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
B prospect
OTT
Zucker, Jason

PROs
Zucker could slide into the second line LW in Ottawa and give them 2nd line production. He's scored 20 or more goals 5 out of 6 years, so he's reliable there. The 33 goal season is an anomaly, so I'd guess that Zucker is good for about 20-22 goals in a full season, at age 29 moving forward (Birthday Jan 16).
Zucker could help Ottawa in his year two and three of his contract when they are competing

CONs
Ottawa isn't competing seriously this season, and don't need Zucker, yet
Zucker is making about $1.5MM a year too much, for three more seasons, at ages 29-31 (not quite declining, not getting better)
Ottawa wants to play their prospects, and Zucker takes a roster spot for three seasons
Ottawa has enough forwards

After this next season, Ottawa might be inclined to trade for another player like Zucker in 21/22, but they wouldn't be inclined to add that much "cap versus production" in their compete years. Pittsburgh would have to retain, or the package going back reduced.
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Nov 23, 2020 at 1:51
#8
Retired V2 V3 GM
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Quoting: penslover8771
Oof, I don't even want to picture these days. It'll be cold. Maybe hope to get that next young star and lure a big fish free agent with our "young core" of guys we have now.


I agree this is a nightmare that I am very afraid to ever see.
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Nov 23, 2020 at 2:26
#9
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: Missouri
I agree this is a nightmare that I am very afraid to ever see.


yeah me too. although I think the pens will be able to tank fairly quickly. not many prospects or picks, but alot of NHL caliber assets to trade...
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Nov 23, 2020 at 4:31
#10
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I don’t see them selling that low on Kapanen unless he doesn’t up his game at all with crosby. In 5 years he will only be like 29-30 lol.
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Nov 23, 2020 at 5:47
#11
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Considering Rust and Zucker will be in their mid 30s they would be lucky to even get a third by the time Sid and Malkin are retired
Nov 23, 2020 at 5:48
#12
Thread Starter
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
Considering Rust and Zucker will be in their mid 30s they would be lucky to even get a third by the time Sid and Malkin are retired


but I think even early 30s 20-30 goal players would fetch more than that....even at a deadline maybe...
Nov 23, 2020 at 10:21
#13
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
yeah me too. although I think the pens will be able to tank fairly quickly. not many prospects or picks, but alot of NHL caliber assets to trade...


Yeah the big question is who would be the next Captain after Sid?? Those are big shoes to fill and a tough act to follow. grimace flushed cheeks
Nov 24, 2020 at 3:30
#14
NoWah49
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this is terrifying
Nov 24, 2020 at 9:06
#15
Hockey Super Genius
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Im all for the Pens trying for next 2 yrs then I hope we are horrible for 2-3 yrs and getting #1- #3 overall picks again

And we continue the every 20 yrs we get the Best player in the game w/ the #1 pick ..... Shane Wright to the Pens??
 
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