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Toronto trade

Created by: FloppyBiscuit
Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2020
Published: Nov. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Wild get a more offense oriented center and under contract forward to help meet Seattle expansion draft requirements if we decide to protect 4F x 4D (this way we don't have to play Rask 27 games or Sturm 40).

Toronto gets $1.4 mil cap space and the better defensive center.
Trades
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  1. Bonino, Nick ($2,000,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,749,424$0$925,000$2,750,576
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$7,538,462$7,538,462
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,487,500$1,487,500
C
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,538,462$7,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
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$4,166,667$4,166,667
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 1

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Nov. 23, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
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Tbh I’d take that as Toronto
Nov. 23, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Tbh I’d take that as Toronto


Obviously you would, you're getting a better player at 50% retained. This is a no brainer for Toronto. There is zero reason for the Wild to consider this deal.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Obviously you would, you're getting a better player at 50% retained. This is a no brainer for Toronto. There is zero reason for the Wild to consider this deal.


Read the team explanation mate
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.
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Toronto takes this and runs
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
Read the team explanation mate


Yeah mate, I read it, still not happening. Rask will get 27 games easily. and Foligno and/or someone else will be re-signed.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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Rask will get 27 games easily.


You want to watch that?
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
You want to watch that?


If it means not making a **** trade like this? Absolutely. I would rather watch Rask play 27 games on the fourth line than have Kerfoot be our 1C for 82 games.

And you need to understand that even if we did make this trade, Rask would still play in 27 games.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
If it means not making a **** trade like this? Absolutely. I would rather watch Rask play 27 games on the fourth line than have Kerfoot be our 1C for 82 games.


Do you think we'd be re-signing Bonino?
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
And you need to understand that even if we did make this trade, Rask would still play in 27 games.


Why do you think that?
Nov. 23, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
Do you think we'd be re-signing Bonino?


I think the Wild are going to have a lot of cap space and roster flexibility next season, and Kerfoot isn't a player we should be committing to, lessening that space and flexibility.

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Why do you think that?


Because injuries happen, and it makes no sense to keep a guy you're paying 4M in the press box for over two-thirds of the season. I don't think you realize how rare it is for a player to be on an NHL roster full time and not play at least 27 games. It just doesn't happen.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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I think the Wild are going to have a lot of cap space and roster flexibility next season, and Kerfoot isn't a player we should be committing to, lessening that space and flexibility.

Because injuries happen, and it makes no sense to keep a guy you're paying 4M in the press box for over two-thirds of the season. I don't think you realize how rare it is for a player to be on an NHL roster full time and not play at least 27 games. It just doesn't happen.


That's fair, I guess I don't see Bonino being re-signed, so my guess is we could maybe get a 2nd (plus maybe like a 5th/6th, but idk) for him at the deadline. If we trade him for Kerfoot and give Kerfoot 1st line minutes, the hope is that it'd inflate his stats (a la Ryan Strome) so Seattle would maybe select him over Greenway, Soucy, or whichever goalie is exposed between Talbot and Kahkonen. I don't know about you, but I'd happily miss out on a potential late 2nd round pick to not lose any of the four guys I just mentioned. And that's also fair about Rask, but keep in mind Vancouver kept Baertschi down in the A, and he's making over $3M. I don't think it'd be unreasonable to give Rask the same treatment if he performs as poorly as he has. I'd rather give Sturm the fill-in looks anyways.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
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This is bad for MN. Just flip Bonino for a pick at the TDL and it's a better deal than Kerfoot.

Rask will get 27 games rather easily, unless injures himself again. Injuries and/or shipping off one of the 4 rental FWDs on the team will get Rask hit 27 games. Even then it's really not needed. Hartman and Greenway already meet the expansion draft requirements, so there only needs to be one more. You can get that as part of a trade for one of the rentals, by playing Rask/Strum on the 4th line normally, or hoping Zucc/Parise will waive the NMC (unlikely).

I'm wondering if the expansion draft games played number will get lowered because of the COVID. Roughly 10 games per team were lost last year and no clue how many will be lost this year.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
That's fair, I guess I don't see Bonino being re-signed, so my guess is we could maybe get a 2nd (plus maybe like a 5th/6th, but idk) for him at the deadline. If we trade him for Kerfoot and give Kerfoot 1st line minutes, the hope is that it'd inflate his stats (a la Ryan Strome) so Seattle would maybe select him over Greenway, Soucy, or whichever goalie is exposed between Talbot and Kahkonen. I don't know about you, but I'd happily miss out on a potential late 2nd round pick to not lose any of the four guys I just mentioned. And that's also fair about Rask, but keep in mind Vancouver kept Baertschi down in the A, and he's making over $3M. I don't think it'd be unreasonable to give Rask the same treatment if he performs as poorly as he has. I'd rather give Sturm the fill-in looks anyways.


Bonino shouldn't be re-signed (unless it's a sweetheart short deal for the club), trade or let him walk away after the season. The same goes for MarJo and Bjugstad. Take their combined $10m and use a chuck of it to get a real top-6 center for the 21-22 season.

Kerfoot is nowhere near a 1C. He's an o-zone 3C, nothing more. His o-zone (compare their 24/25 season even strength) abilities are on-par with Haula, but he has nowhere near the same d-zone game as Haula had.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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Hartman and Greenway already meet the expansion draft requirements, so there only needs to be one more. You can get that as part of a trade for one of the rentals, by playing Rask/Strum on the 4th line normally, or hoping Zucc/Parise will waive the NMC (unlikely).

I'm wondering if the expansion draft games played number will get lowered because of the COVID. Roughly 10 games per team were lost last year and no clue how many will be lost this year.

Bonino shouldn't be re-signed (unless it's a sweetheart short deal for the club), trade or let him walk away after the season. The same goes for MarJo and Bjugstad. Take their combined $10m and use a chuck of it to get a real top-6 center for the 21-22 season.

Kerfoot is nowhere near a 1C. He's an o-zone 3C, nothing more. His o-zone (compare their 24/25 season even strength) abilities are on-par with Haula, but he has nowhere near the same d-zone game as Haula had.


I don't get what your point about Hartman is since he doesn't help meet the requirements of having two under contract players if we're talking about demoting Rask to the AHL in this situation, but I agree Mojo, Bjugstad, Bonino, Hunt, and Pateryn (if healthy) should be shipped if we get offers.

That is a good point about covid and the expansion draft requirements, would be nice if that was lowered, especially with the prospect of a shortened season.

As far as Kerfoot and a true 1C go, I'm aware Kerfoot isn't one. He's maybe a bottom tier 2C at best. This trade is a gamble with the hope of him overperforming next to Fiala and whoever joins them on that line (like R. Strome from playing with Panarin) and catching the eye of Seattle to be taken. If that doesn't work out, I wouldn't call it the end of the world, because the only centers hitting UFA that catch my eye are Nugent-Hopkins and Danault, but I don't see Edmonton letting Nuge walk. I do have another post where I sign Danault, though. He's an option but I don't think he's going to lead us to a Stanley Cup as 1C...
Nov. 23, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
I don't get what your point about Hartman is since he doesn't help meet the requirements of having two under contract players if we're talking about demoting Rask to the AHL in this situation, but I agree Mojo, Bjugstad, Bonino, Hunt, and Pateryn (if healthy) should be shipped if we get offers.

That is a good point about covid and the expansion draft requirements, would be nice if that was lowered, especially with the prospect of a shortened season.

As far as Kerfoot and a true 1C go, I'm aware Kerfoot isn't one. He's maybe a bottom tier 2C at best. This trade is a gamble with the hope of him overperforming next to Fiala and whoever joins them on that line (like R. Strome from playing with Panarin) and catching the eye of Seattle to be taken. If that doesn't work out, I wouldn't call it the end of the world, because the only centers hitting UFA that catch my eye are Nugent-Hopkins and Danault, but I don't see Edmonton letting Nuge walk. I do have another post where I sign Danault, though. He's an option but I don't think he's going to lead us to a Stanley Cup as 1C...


Rask isn't getting demoted though, so that's a moot point to me. MN has 13 FWD (including him and Strum), and there isn't anything behind them that is close to a NHL player.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 9:25 p.m.
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Not really getting the reaction to this. If I'm the Leafs, I don't consider this deal.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Not really getting the reaction to this. If I'm the Leafs, I don't consider this deal.


Tor gets the cheaper (with the retention) and better center. They also get the shutdown 3C the team needs.
Nov. 23, 2020 at 10:00 p.m.
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Tor gets the cheaper (with the retention) and better center. They also get the shutdown 3C the team needs.


Disgree with this. I think they're pretty on par, so why give up the player with term for a guy who will provide similar impact for only one year? Also, Kerfoot has the better defensive metrics over the last couple years. Granted, his zone starts are more favorable than Bonino's, but the Leafs don't and shouldn't rely on a 3C for a shutdown role. Top players play against top players, so if the main draw for Bonino is his capability to face other teams top competition, his best asset is rendered pretty useless on the Leafs.
Nov. 24, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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Who the hell is dakota mermis?
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 8:28 a.m.
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Who the hell is dakota mermis?


The epidermis is the outer layer of your skin. Dakota mermis is how they refer to it if you're from the two states bordering Minnesota's west.
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