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Tampa Bay Lightning signed Mikhail Sergachev (3 Years / $4,800,000 AAV)

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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:38
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Mikhail Sergachev has signed a new contract with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
STANDARD CONTRACT
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LENGTH: 3 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
SIGNING TEAM: Tampa Bay LightningTampa Bay Lightning
VALUE: $14,400,000
C.H.% : 5.89
SIGNING DATE: November 25, 2020
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2020-21$4,800,000$4,800,000$0$1,500,000$900,000$2,400,000$2,400,000
2021-22$4,800,000$4,800,000$0$1,500,000$3,300,000$4,800,000$4,800,000
2022-23$4,800,000$4,800,000$0$0$7,200,000$7,200,000$7,200,000
TOTAL$14,400,000$14,400,000$0$3,000,000$11,400,000$14,400,000$14,400,000
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:39
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Not JoshAnderson17
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nice
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:39
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Perfect deal for both sides! I used McAvoy as a comparable in my predictions, pretty spot on.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:39
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Edited Nov 25, 2020 at 5:20
not bad but not great either.

Should have been 5.5 x 6 years but meh

cause man his QA at 7.2mill in 3 years could really hurt
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:40
#5
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F*CK YES let's goooooo

That was so important contract.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:40
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I been saying they’re gonna make everyone scratch their heads with great moves. Great management, and scouting. Plus now the teams buying in - they’re tryna be a modern dynasty which is even crazier considering we got COVID cap.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:40
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Definitely could've got more.
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:41
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Great deal, but now it's gonna be interesting how they fit it all under the cap.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:41
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Great signing, would've gotten more if Covid hadn't hit or if Tampa wasn't in cap hell since they are now over the cap
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:42
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So much for taking a discount to keep the team together and all the other bull**** people peddle on this site about Tampa and contracts. No tax and player buy in really helping them get essentially the same aav contract to two other Dmen with better contract influences (TOI and production being the #1 and #2 things that affect contract value in Dmen) as well as a high 3rd year for a QA all in a pandemic affected market.

Its a fine contract and like all young stars he's likely plays to it and outperforms it but this is at best market rate, and certainly the low end of it considering comparables.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:45
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McAvoy money.

Im shocked, SHOCKED! ... Well, not that shocked.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 3:48
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Quoting: mondo
Definitely could've got more.


no he couldn't have. He got Deangelo's deal. It's fair value, no home team discount or whatever here.

I am shocked they didn't wait on this till mid season. Getting guys on QO and then doing the old signing bonus extension would have been much easier to do knowing that cap was going to open up next year.
They would have had a little higher AVA on those years, but it would be worth it.
Now they are painting themselves into a corner.
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:49
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Fair contract. So now Tampa is about $2 million over the cap. If they trade Killorn they can sign Cernak, and after that either Cirelli or one of the full NTC players would need to be traded.
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:50
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Quoting: aadoyle
not bad but not great either.

Should have been 5.5 x 6 years but meh


No way 5.5m gets you 6 years of Sergachev....

Provorov and Morrissey are the closest comparables. 6.25-6.75 AAV

This is a great deal for the Lightning as they couldn't afford a long term deal
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:51
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Quoting: pharrow
no he couldn't have. He got Deangelo's deal. It's fair value, no home team discount or whatever here.

I am shocked they didn't wait on this till mid season. Getting guys on QO and then doing the old signing bonus extension would have been much easier to do knowing that cap was going to open up next year.
They would have had a little higher AVA on those years, but it would be worth it.
Now they are painting themselves into a corner.


If they didn't think that they could deal their guys, they wouldn't have signed Sergachev, I don't think. It makes me wonder who they have lined up something with?
Nov 25, 2020 at 3:57
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so proper
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:00
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
If they didn't think that they could deal their guys, they wouldn't have signed Sergachev, I don't think. It makes me wonder who they have lined up something with?


yeah this is the thing it really comes down too, and at what cost?
If they pushed it back, you look at Seattle taking a guy and it opens up room, you then move a guy like Palat on the final year of his deal, probably not that expensive. right?

But now they got to move a guy with term.
I would think McDonagh is the guy they want to move. But that's a big cap hit. Maybe they take some back to avoid retaining.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 4:12
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Literally the perfect opportunity for a team to offer sheet Cirelli. COVID cap + GM's being boring won't let it happen though sadly.
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:21
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Huge overpay.
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:23
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I'm just glad GMs are doing stuff again
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:41
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Huge overpay.


Defensemen get paid for points, not for, you know, actual defensive ability. So this seems fair.
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Nov 25, 2020 at 4:41
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Huge overpay.


How it's either a fair contract or an underpayment
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:51
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who all get's moved for this contract to fit in??? I think Cirelli gets around the same...
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:56
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
who all get's moved for this contract to fit in??? I think Cirelli gets around the same...


Well i think Tampa only signed him since they have a way to get back under the cap but easy ways to get under the cap would be to trade Coburn, Paquette, Killorn, Johnson
Nov 25, 2020 at 4:59
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
How it's either a fair contract or an underpayment


Sarcasm
 
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