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Created by: CJ01
Initial Creation Date: Nov 26, 2020
Published: Nov 26, 2020 at 1:21
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Bernard-Docker, Jacob3$925,000
Pinto, Shane3$925,000
Sanderson, Jake3$925,000
Stützle, Tim3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brännström, Erik3$5,000,000
Tkachuk, Brady6$8,750,000
Norris, Joshua4$4,750,000
Zub, Artem2$1,750,000
Gustavsson, Filip3$2,250,000
Formenton, Alex3$2,250,000
Batherson, Drake3$2,250,000
Brown, Logan3$1,250,000
Sanford, Zachary3$3,500,000
Abramov, Vitaly2$1,500,000
Lajoie, Maxime2$1,000,000
Chlapik, Filip2$1,000,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Dumoulin, Brian
PIT
  1. Wolanin, Christian [RFA Rights]
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. Järventie, Roby [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (OTT)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (DAL)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
OTT
  1. Sanford, Zachary [RFA Rights]
STL
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Jaros, Christian [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
  • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
OTT
CBJ
SJS
OTT
OTT
OTT
2022
OTT
DAL
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
2023
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$84,500,000$71,737,500$0$2,500,000$12,762,500

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
$8,750,000
LW, C
RFA
OTT
Norris, Joshua
$4,750,000
C
RFA
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Formenton, Alex
$2,250,000
LW
RFA
OTT
Stützle, Tim
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
OTT
Batherson, Drake
$2,250,000
C, RW
RFA
Sanford, Zachary
$3,500,000
LW
RFA
OTT
Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA
OTT
White, Colin
$4,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
OTT
Abramov, Vitaly
$1,500,000
LW
RFA
OTT
Brown, Logan
$1,250,000
C
RFA
OTT
Watson, Austin
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
OTT
Sanderson, Jake
$925,000
LD
RFA
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
OTT
Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Brännström, Erik
$5,000,000
RD
RFA
OTT
Zub, Artem
$1,750,000
RD
RFA
OTT
Gustavsson, Filip
$2,250,000
G
RFA
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
OTT
Bernard-Docker, Jacob
$925,000
D
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
OTT
Chlapik, Filip
$1,000,000
C
RFA
OTT
Lajoie, Maxime
$1,000,000
LD
RFA

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, B.
Stützle, T.
Guentzel, J.
Batherson, D.
Brännström, E.
Power Play 2
Norris, J.
Brown, L.
Abramov, V.
Bernard-Docker, J.
Chabot, T.
Penalty Kill 1
White, C.
Sanford, Z.
Dumoulin, B.
Sanderson, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Pinto, S.
Watson, A.
Chabot, T.
Zub, A.

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Nov 26, 2020 at 1:28
#1
Joined: Jan 2018
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Makes absolutely no sense for Pittsburgh to be trading assets for futures when they have Crosby and Malkin. There's also no reason for Ottawa to be trading their own 1st when they're going be virtually guaranteed to be last place in your division.

No way does Dallas take that, and Ottawa won't trade Connor Brown. He's literally the reason they were willing to take Zaitsev to begin with.

That 3rd deal is insanely horrible for Ottawa. Sens signed a Star RW on a bargain contract, and they trade him for a substantially worse player, while also giving up a young D and a 3rd.
Nov 26, 2020 at 1:33
#2
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,330
Likes: 454
Penguins are not rebuilding. We arnt trading Guentzel and Dumoulin for futures. For a 1st round pick and a 18 year old and a 20 year old.

Guentzel is a part of our future even when Sid, Geno and letang are done.

Guentzel by himself would bring back a good young NHL player with potential, a top 100 prospect and a 1st or 2nd round pick.

C.Wolanin has little to no value.

Dumoulin is a top pairing Defensemen on a play-off team. He would bring a good return back too.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 1:38
#3
Jake
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 911
Likes: 417
Dadonov must have really dropped off to consider that deal. I guess it’s not completely unrealistic.
Nov 26, 2020 at 3:17
#4
mokumboi
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 4,295
Likes: 1,307
You guys *just* signed Dadonov, man. Besides, the Blues don't have the cap space for it. Even if they did, they'd probably decline because it would be trading a much younger, much cheaper player on the rise for a much older, much more pricey guy who looks like he's falling off a cliff and we have LDs better than Djoos falling out of our ears ATM. It looks good on the surface, but just doesn;t work.
Nov 26, 2020 at 9:11
#5
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,530
You forgot a few additional 1sets coming from Ottawa in that Pittsburgh trade. Note, "... a few additional..."
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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:33
#6
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 923
Quoting: PGHBOB69
Penguins are not rebuilding. We arnt trading Guentzel and Dumoulin for futures. For a 1st round pick and a 18 year old and a 20 year old.

Guentzel is a part of our future even when Sid, Geno and letang are done.

Guentzel by himself would bring back a good young NHL player with potential, a top 100 prospect and a 1st or 2nd round pick.

C.Wolanin has little to no value.

Dumoulin is a top pairing Defensemen on a play-off team. He would bring a good return back too.


Quoting: Yojimbo
You forgot a few additional 1sets coming from Ottawa in that Pittsburgh trade. Note, "... a few additional..."


no way the pens do this, agreed. maybe in a couple years when the window is shut we sell off these players and so many more but not yet...
Nov 26, 2020 at 9:51
#7
Retired V2 V3 GM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 2,623
Likes: 591
Penguins decline. We are in NO WAY rebuilding.
Nov 26, 2020 at 1:58
#8
Serf
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,416
Likes: 523
So I notice this is the 22/23 Senators, but even so, these are not good trades. It's difficult enough to create trades for the current season, looking that far ahead, you don't know where the teams will be in relation to competing.
 
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