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Danault Trade and Extension

Created by: Hockyluv21
Initial Creation Date: Nov 26, 2020
Published: Nov 26, 2020 at 9:30
Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Team Explanation
This is a deadline deal if Montreal is out of the playoff picture.
Trades
CAR
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. 2021 5th round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Canes extend Danault for 5 years, $5M AAV.
MTL
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
  2. Bean, Jake
  3. Drury, Jack [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 7th round pick (STL)
Buyouts
  • Alexander Semin: $2,333,333
  • Patrick Marleau: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
OTT
CAR
CAR
LAK
2022
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
2023
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,645,655$1,367,073$3,207,500$1,854,345
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CAR
Teräväinen, Teuvo
$5,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,460,250
C, LW
UFA - 4
CAR
Trocheck, Vincent
$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
CAR
Svechnikov, Andrei
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
CAR
Necas, Martin
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
CAR
Niederreiter, Nino
$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
CAR
Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
CAR
Fast, Jesper
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
CAR
Foegele, Warren
$2,150,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CAR
Geekie, Morgan
$763,333
C, RW
RFA - 1
CAR
Martinook, Jordan
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
CAR
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
CAR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,125,000
G
UFA - 1
CAR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
CAR
Gardiner, Jake
$4,050,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
CAR
Fleury, Haydn
$1,300,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CAR
McGinn, Brock
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:32
#1
Islesforthecup
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,237
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MTL doesnt do it and neither does danault.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:35
#2
Zuki9797
Not JoshAnderson17
Joined: Feb 2019
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We don't need Bean
Nov 26, 2020 at 9:35
#3
HabsForEver
Joined: Jan 2019
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If Danault takes that, Montreal keeps him easily with no questions asked.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:36
#4
Hockyluv21
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
MTL doesnt do it and neither does danault.


I would say that I think that Danault is somewhat redundant long-term with Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, and Poehling all in the pipeline. If the Habs are out of the playoff picture, it might well be the smart move to parlay him into assets.
Nov 26, 2020 at 9:41
#5
HabsForEver
Joined: Jan 2019
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
I would say that I think that Danault is somewhat redundant long-term with Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, and Poehling all in the pipeline. If the Habs are out of the playoff picture, it might well be the smart move to parlay him into assets.


Would much rather Danault than Poehling. I think Poehling ends up as a winger anyways. At this point, Poehling hasn't done much as a professional and has been quite disappointing IMO
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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:41
#6
DiehardRedWingsFan58
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
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Why would Carolina want a nearly 28 year old Phillip Danault as their 2C? Carolina has Nick Suzuki as their potential next 2C or Martin Necas besides reportedly Phillip Danault wants closer to $6 million per long term. Don't see either Carolina or Montreal making this deal.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:44
#7
Josh
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Joined: Apr 2016
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Offer sheet him!
Nov 26, 2020 at 9:51
#8
Kotkaniemi15
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 9,270
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This is just horrible. Dzingel is overpaid and Bean is useless to us. You’re giving us absolutely nothing of value.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 9:57
#9
OlegP
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,653
Likes: 794
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
This is just horrible. Dzingel is overpaid and Bean is useless to us. You’re giving us absolutely nothing of value.


Bean is going to Seattle. Canes aren’t giving up anything here
Nov 26, 2020 at 10:28
#10
xxToothxx
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 457
Likes: 55
Why would you give do much for a 3C??
Danault is not worth anywhere near that.
He makes 3 mill this year, which is perfect for him.
Next year he expects closer to 5 mil per just because he played 2C on a terrible team.
Waaaaay too much for a defensive 3C.
Nov 26, 2020 at 10:31
#11
xxToothxx
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 457
Likes: 55
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
This is just horrible. Dzingel is overpaid and Bean is useless to us. You’re giving us absolutely nothing of value.


Like Danault is some prize????
You're peddling him bc you have 2 20 year olds who are more apt to be top 6 centerman.
Danault is not top 6, dont care where he played for Habs, on 95% of the league he is a 3C.
Nov 26, 2020 at 10:31
#12
HabsForEver
Joined: Jan 2019
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Why would you give do much for a 3C??
Danault is not worth anywhere near that.
He makes 3 mill this year, which is perfect for him.
Next year he expects closer to 5 mil per just because he played 2C on a terrible team.
Waaaaay too much for a defensive 3C.


Wow are you clueless. Do some research. Y I K E S
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Nov 26, 2020 at 10:32
#13
HabsForEver
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 6,103
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Like Danault is some prize????
You're peddling him bc you have 2 20 year olds who are more apt to be top 6 centerman.
Danault is not top 6, dont care where he played for Habs, on 95% of the league he is a 3C.


Look at his stats, instant ignore because you are not very smart
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Nov 26, 2020 at 10:34
#14
xxToothxx
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 457
Likes: 55
Quoting: HabsForEver
If Danault takes that, Montreal keeps him easily with no questions asked.


That would be another huge mistake by Bergvin
Danault should not be signed by any team to a 5x5 contract. That would be a big mistake, HE IS NOT A 5 MIL PER PLAYER.
DANAULT IS A 3C...
He played 2C in Montreal because of an awlful roster. Hes already being shipped out to let the younger guts play...
Nov 26, 2020 at 10:35
#15
HabsForEver
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Quoting: xxToothxx
That would be another huge mistake by Bergvin
Danault should not be signed by any team to a 5x5 contract. That would be a big mistake, HE IS NOT A 5 MIL PER PLAYER.
DANAULT IS A 3C...
He played 2C in Montreal because of an awlful roster. Hes already being shipped out to let the younger guts play...


He was one of the best 5v5 centers in the league last season, but keep going on like you know what you're talking about.

He played 1C in Montreal, but I wouldn't expect you to know that.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 10:44
#16
GMs
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Wow are you clueless. Do some research. Y I K E S


Quoting: xxToothxx
That would be another huge mistake by Bergvin
Danault should not be signed by any team to a 5x5 contract. That would be a big mistake, HE IS NOT A 5 MIL PER PLAYER.
DANAULT IS A 3C...
He played 2C in Montreal because of an awlful roster. Hes already being shipped out to let the younger guts play...


🤣🤣🤣🤣 Danault is a 2C
Ends of the conversation
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Nov 26, 2020 at 10:52
#17
OlegP
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,653
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Why would you give do much for a 3C??
Danault is not worth anywhere near that.
He makes 3 mill this year, which is perfect for him.
Next year he expects closer to 5 mil per just because he played 2C on a terrible team.
Waaaaay too much for a defensive 3C.


What drugs you on? I want them!
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Nov 26, 2020 at 10:56
#18
OlegP
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Quoting: HabsForEver
If Danault takes that, Montreal keeps him easily with no questions asked.


He’ll want more than 5 million. 5 million would be a bargain for Montreal
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Nov 26, 2020 at 10:56
#19
HabsForEver
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Quoting: OlegP
He’ll want more than 5 million. 5 million would be a bargain for Montreal


Yes that's what I said
Nov 26, 2020 at 11:10
#20
A_Habs_fan
GM GameV4 Arizona GM
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Danault wants more money and Montreal says no since they get no valuable assets for a very good center
Nov 26, 2020 at 11:11
#21
A_Habs_fan
GM GameV4 Arizona GM
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Quoting: xxToothxx
That would be another huge mistake by Bergvin
Danault should not be signed by any team to a 5x5 contract. That would be a big mistake, HE IS NOT A 5 MIL PER PLAYER.
DANAULT IS A 3C...
He played 2C in Montreal because of an awlful roster. Hes already being shipped out to let the younger guts play...


Danault has been a worse Bergeron for Montreal, a Center who is defensive minded and can still score and put up decent points, he is more than a 3c
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Nov 26, 2020 at 11:38
#22
clapperzzz11
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Why would you give do much for a 3C??
Danault is not worth anywhere near that.
He makes 3 mill this year, which is perfect for him.
Next year he expects closer to 5 mil per just because he played 2C on a terrible team.
Waaaaay too much for a defensive 3C.


Just look at Pageau trade and contract extension.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 11:40
#23
clapperzzz11
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Quoting: xxToothxx
That would be another huge mistake by Bergvin
Danault should not be signed by any team to a 5x5 contract. That would be a big mistake, HE IS NOT A 5 MIL PER PLAYER.
DANAULT IS A 3C...
He played 2C in Montreal because of an awlful roster. Hes already being shipped out to let the younger guts play...


what's the return of Pageau trade ? What's the contract extension ?
Sens get 1st, 2nd and conditionnal 3rd for Pageau extended at 5m for 6 years. Danault can get the same deal and habs can get same return.
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Nov 26, 2020 at 11:53
#24
Campabee
Joined: Nov 2018
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Like Danault is some prize????
You're peddling him bc you have 2 20 year olds who are more apt to be top 6 centerman.
Danault is not top 6, dont care where he played for Habs, on 95% of the league he is a 3C.


I would like to know exactly who you think are better than Danault. You say 95% of the 2C's in the league are better but in the East alone I can only think of 4 2C's who are better (Krejci (debatable), Malkin, Backstrom and Tavares. I would say Hayes is almost equal but everyone else is at least one step below Danault right now) So your 95% is not even close it is more like 25%, which means he is most definitely a 2C.
Nov 26, 2020 at 2:24
#25
xxToothxx
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 457
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Quoting: HabsForEver
He was one of the best 5v5 centers in the league last season, but keep going on like you know what you're talking about.

He played 1C in Montreal, but I wouldn't expect you to know that.


Only proves my point. All that ice time as a 1C and all you expect is 50 pts. Hes a 30 pts 3C when slotted correctly on a contending team.
Again, hes a great add for THIS SEASON.
Would not any part of a 5 x 5 contract for a then 29 year old 3C.
 
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