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Drastic Measures

Created by: Grievous
Initial Creation Date: Nov 26, 2020
Published: Nov 28, 2020 at 1:36
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
A few notes:

Vasilevkiy is the only high value contract with no trade or movement restrictions and Ottawa probably is the only team with the Cap Space and prospect depth to make such a move.

This sets up TB for success for another decade by significantly boosting their prospect depth.

Kassian is actually a fast skater and best buds with Maroon
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cirelli, Anthony3$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hamonic, Travis1$1,500,000
Trades
TBL
  1. Larsson, Adam ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Kassian, Zack ($500,000 retained)
  3. McLeod, Ryan
  4. Benson, Tyler
  5. Samorukov, Dmitri
  6. Kemp, Philip
EDM
  1. Palat, Ondrej
  2. Killorn, Alex
  3. Cernak, Erik [RFA Rights]
  4. Finley, Jack [Reserve List]
  5. 2021 4th round pick (TBL)
  6. 2021 7th round pick (NJD)
TBL
  1. Malgin, Denis
  2. 2021 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Larsson, Adam
TBL
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob [Reserve List]
  2. Brown, Connor
  3. Greig, Ridly [Reserve List]
  4. Norris, Joshua
  5. Murray, Matt ($3,000,000 retained)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (SJS)
  7. 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)
OTT
  1. Vasilevskiy, Andrei
  2. Fortier, Gabriel
Buyouts
  • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TBL
SJS
CBJ
TBL
TOR
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2023
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,541,666$0$850,000$958,334
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TBL
Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
OTT
Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
TBL
Goodrow, Barclay
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
$3,750,000
C
RFA - 3
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$2,700,000
RW
UFA - 4
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
$900,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
$1,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
TBL
Coleman, Blake
$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
Hamonic, Travis
$1,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
OTT
Murray, Matt
$3,250,000
G
UFA - 4
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Schenn, Luke
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
$4,800,000
LD/RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TBL
Witkowski, Luke
$700,000
RD, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Malgin, Denis
$700,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
OTT
Norris, Joshua
$925,000
C
RFA - 2

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Nov 28, 2020 at 1:52
#1
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
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Ottawa declines, Pierre Dorion isn't eating $3 million per for the next 4 years of Matt Murray's contract while taking on Andrei Vasilevskiys full $9.5 million for the next 8 years. And Edmonton doesn't have the cap space to take on Cernak, Killorn and Palat.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 1:59
#2
imawesome
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,637
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This is quite ridiculous. BriseBois said that Kucherov, Hedman, Point, and Vasilevskiy are untouchable.
Nov 28, 2020 at 2:04
#3
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 586
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Quoting: imawesome
This is quite ridiculous. BriseBois said that Kucherov, Hedman, Point, and Vasilevskiy are untouchable.


Let's see how it plays out, the Vasilevkiy contract is moveable and Huge...and of course the top 3 won't be traded.

Something has to give...
Nov 28, 2020 at 2:17
#4
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 5,100
Likes: 2,211
Oilers decline very quickly. That might be one of the worst and least thought out ideas I’ve ever seen. 4 prospects couple picks plus a top four rd and the only really gritty forward plus retaining....... I don’t even know where to begin debunking this idea it’s horrible on just about every possible way
Nov 28, 2020 at 2:46
#5
Thread Starter
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 586
Likes: 77
Quoting: Timmah007
Oilers decline very quickly. That might be one of the worst and least thought out ideas I’ve ever seen. 4 prospects couple picks plus a top four rd and the only really gritty forward plus retaining....... I don’t even know where to begin debunking this idea it’s horrible on just about every possible way


LOL, unthought out, yup okay. If an overpaid and over-valued Kassian and a handful of middling prospects are your hill to die on, then you are clearly uninformed about this franchise. Kassian's peak was the entire calendar year of 2019. He is not what you think he is. He is now an old, overpaid 3rd line RW.

Benson has the highest ceiling, but his foot speed might have him max out as a 2nd or 3rd line LW if he even makes it as a full-time NHLer. I think he is and will be blocked in Edm, so he won't be with the org much longer. I expect he will be scooped up by Seattle next season.

McLeod is at best a 3C, but more likely a 4C. He is easily moveable with limited franchise impact.

Sammy might top out as a 4 or 5 D, but again he is blocked by Nurse, Jones and Broberg.

Kemp might be a 6 or 7 NHL Dman in 2 years. Kesselring will be eating his lunch in 3 years.

You are a fan of mediocrity, clearly.
Nov 28, 2020 at 2:54
#6
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 5,100
Likes: 2,211
Quoting: Grievous
LOL, unthought out, yup okay. If an overpaid and over-valued Kassian and a handful of middling prospects are your hill to die on, then you are clearly uninformed about this franchise. Kassian's peak was the entire calendar year of 2019. He is not what you think he is. He is now an old, overpaid 3rd line RW.

Benson has the highest ceiling, but his foot speed might have him max out as a 2nd or 3rd line LW if he even makes it as a full-time NHLer. I think he is and will be blocked in Edm, so he won't be with the org much longer. I expect he will be scooped up by Seattle next season.

McLeod is at best a 3C, but more likely a 4C. He is easily moveable with limited franchise impact.

Sammy might top out as a 4 or 5 D, but again he is blocked by Nurse, Jones and Broberg.

Kemp might be a 6 or 7 NHL Dman in 2 years. Kesselring will be eating his lunch in 3 years.

You are a fan of mediocrity, clearly.

Sure if mediocrity avoids this train wreck idea.
Nov 28, 2020 at 3:59
#7
Joined: Aug 2020
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Likes: 1,957
Vasilevskiy is great and all but I'd rather pay Murray 6mil and hope for a bounce back than effectively pay Vasi McDavid money plus lose a top 4 RHD prospect that projects as the long term defensive defenseman partner for Chabot, a top 6 C prospect coming off a stellar AHL rookie season, two 2nds, a guy just drafted in the 1st round, and a solid 20 goal 2-way middle 6 RW. I would love a young, all-star goalie guaranteed, but this hurts our rebuild more than it helps it. Maybe something like Murray+L. Brown+Thomson+Tierney in a year? Idk, probably isn't a trade there even if Vasi wasn't untouchable
Nov 28, 2020 at 4:03
#8
Serf
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,149
Likes: 892
I keep deleting my responses. I can't find a polite way to express how bad this trade offer is with Ottawa. You must not think much of Murray, so how are you going to make the playoffs with a goalie you think so little of?
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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:16
#9
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Joined: Jul 2015
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Leafs don't have the cap...or maybe even the desire for Larsson. Palat isn't waiving his NTC for Edmonton. Doubt if KIllorn has Edmonton on his trade list.
Ottawa isn't taking on all that cap and retention.
Nov 28, 2020 at 4:57
#10
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 270
Likes: 84
I think your first and foremost issue is that you don't see 12 piece deals. You need to trim that first one up a bit imo, try and get down to 6. Also im not saying vasi isn't a good goalie but he (any goalie) is not worth 12.5mil, especially right now, so there's not going to be retention there. On top of that, no team is paying you for him, tampa is against the wall they're not getting value in any deal they make. Maybe get rid of all your deals and do vasi+killorm to ottawa for murray + brown.
 
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