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Who is better

Created by: HabsFan9
Initial Creation Date: Nov 28, 2020
Published: Nov 28, 2020 at 4:46
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
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Crosby or Malkin

Hedman or Josi
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
4$10,000$35,134,000$0$0-$35,124,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
NSH
Josi, Roman
$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MIN
Addison, Calen
$795,000
RD
RFA - 3
OTT
Abramov, Vitaly
$730,833
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Agostino, Kenny
$737,500
LW
UFA - 1
NSH
Afanasyev, Egor
$803,333
C
RFA - 3
FLA
Abols, Rodrigo
$817,500
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Abramov, Mikhail
$810,000
C
RFA - 3

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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:47
#1
Romanov for Calder
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@Capitalfail67 Let's see what everyone else thinks
Nov 28, 2020 at 4:48
#2
Not JoshAnderson17
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Crosby
Josi
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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:48
#3
Bcarlo25
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Left. Not close.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:50
#4
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Romanov for Calder
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Left. Not close.


I agree entirely
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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:50
#5
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Romanov for Calder
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Left. Not close.[/quo

Double post
Nov 28, 2020 at 4:53
#6
Its pretty mint.
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Clearly Hedman & Crosby.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:57
#7
Connor
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I don't think Corsby vs malkin is even a debate, and I would choose Hedman (but Josi was better this year)
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Nov 28, 2020 at 4:59
#8
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Coming from a Preds fan, I'd say Crosby + Josi.

But Hedman/Josi are 1 and 2 in the NHL I think. Close though.
Nov 28, 2020 at 5:12
#9
Jeuck75
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Crosby
Josi (but if you said Hedman I wouldn't argue)
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Nov 28, 2020 at 5:55
#10
Sorokin SZN
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Crosby
Hedman
Nov 28, 2020 at 6:28
#11
Caps fan idk why
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Crosby vs Malkin last 2 year

120gp....51g 96a 147points p/60 3.543.......xGF% 54.76

Malkin (merely a 2c but sid is the best player in the NHL lol )

123gp.....46g 100a 146 points p/60 3.724......xGF% 54.82

Hedman and Josi are both really good. You are crying that Hedman is hands down the best Dman in the nhl and he’s “under rated “ bc he didn’t win the Norris. It’s just an idiotic take.

Remember you called Crosby underrated. You also called Malkin “merely a 2c”
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Nov 28, 2020 at 6:30
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Caps fan idk why
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Edited Nov 28, 2020 at 6:39
Quoting: hockeyconnor97
I don't think Corsby vs malkin is even a debate, and I would choose Hedman (but Josi was better this year)


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Clearly Hedman & Crosby.


Quoting: Bcarlo25
Left. Not close.


Last 2 years it’s actually fairly close.

Crosby vs Malkin last 2 year

120gp....51g 96a 147points p/60 3.543.......xGF% 54.76

Malkin

123gp.....46g 100a 146 points p/60 3.724......xGF% 54.82


Crosby is the easy answer and probably had the better career but recently Malkin is just as good if not better.


Hedman

53.27CF%...53.51FF%......55.91xGF% 55points

Josi

53.40CF%......54.10FF%.....62.18xGF% 65 points

“Clearly”
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Nov 28, 2020 at 6:34
#13
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Left side
Nov 28, 2020 at 6:45
#14
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Last 2 years it’s actually fairly close.

Crosby vs Malkin last 2 year

120gp....51g 96a 147points p/60 3.543.......xGF% 54.76

Malkin

123gp.....46g 100a 146 points p/60 3.724......xGF% 54.82


Crosby is the easy answer and probably had the better career but recently Malkin is just as good if not better.


Hedman

53.27CF%...53.51FF%......55.91xGF% 55points

Josi

53.40CF%......54.10FF%.....62.18xGF% 65 points

“Clearly”


If you want to reduce it to that.

If you’re talking about playing hockey, it’s Crosby and Hedman, and its not close.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:18
#15
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Romanov for Calder
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Crosby vs Malkin last 2 year

120gp....51g 96a 147points p/60 3.543.......xGF% 54.76

Malkin (merely a 2c but sid is the best player in the NHL lol )

123gp.....46g 100a 146 points p/60 3.724......xGF% 54.82

Hedman and Josi are both really good. You are crying that Hedman is hands down the best Dman in the nhl and he’s “under rated “ bc he didn’t win the Norris. It’s just an idiotic take.

Remember you called Crosby underrated. You also called Malkin “merely a 2c”


I called Malkin an EXCEPTIONAL 2C.
You're right, I'm calling Hedman underrated because he didn't win the Norris, because he should be winning it every year.
It's not an idiotic take. Now you're resorting to name-calling, which I don't appreciate. I proved you wrong, and now you're unhappy about it.
Nov 28, 2020 at 8:27
#16
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: HabsFan9
I called Malkin an EXCEPTIONAL 2C.
You're right, I'm calling Hedman underrated because he didn't win the Norris, because he should be winning it every year.
It's not an idiotic take. Now you're resorting to name-calling, which I don't appreciate. I proved you wrong, and now you're unhappy about it.


How half the people said Josi? You proved nothing. I used stats not cap friendly posters opinion. Facts > opinions. Lol Malkin is a 1c on 90% of NHL teams.
Nov 28, 2020 at 8:29
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
If you want to reduce it to that.

If you’re talking about playing hockey, it’s Crosby and Hedman, and its not close.


Reduce it to stats ? Malkin was on a 110 point pace this year? You said it’s not even close ?
Nov 28, 2020 at 8:34
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Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Reduce it to stats ? Malkin was on a 110 point pace this year? You said it’s not even close ?


Correct. Crosby is a better hockey player than Malkin. It isn’t close.
Nov 28, 2020 at 8:41
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Correct. Crosby is a better hockey player than Malkin. It isn’t close.


Even though they literally have identical stats? I’m talking last 2 years not career? Crosby compared to .... Strome isn’t close but I guess if you want to be .... dramatic you can say it’s not even close. Down to individual awards it’s close. Oh well. Ignoring all stats I guess it’s not even close lol
Nov 28, 2020 at 8:45
#20
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Even though they literally have identical stats? I’m talking last 2 years not career? Crosby compared to .... Strome isn’t close but I guess if you want to be .... dramatic you can say it’s not even close. Down to individual awards it’s close. Oh well. Ignoring all stats I guess it’s not even close lol


Well I’m talking about playing hockey. You’re talking about fantasy hockey.
Nov 28, 2020 at 8:53
#21
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Well I’m talking about playing hockey. You’re talking about fantasy hockey.


Points total are fantasy ? I understand..kind of what you mean. You’re going by the “eye test”. I can respect that but on paper they are close?
Nov 28, 2020 at 9:09
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Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Points total are fantasy ? I understand..kind of what you mean. You’re going by the “eye test”. I can respect that but on paper they are close?


Sure i guess. If you ask 1,000 coaches, players, executives if they could pick one, do you think any say Malkin? Unless its some Russia bias, i think the answer is literally zero.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 9:30
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Sure i guess. If you ask 1,000 coaches, players, executives if they could pick one, do you think any say Malkin? Unless its some Russia bias, i think the answer is literally zero.


Based off reputation or talent?
Nov 28, 2020 at 9:32
#24
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Based off reputation or talent?


Based on impact on the ice.
Nov 28, 2020 at 10:04
#25
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Crosby and Hedman I can't see Malkin leading a team like Crosby has.
 
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