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Created by: Grusofsky96
Initial Creation Date: Nov 28, 2020
Published: Nov 28, 2020 at 7:02
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
NYR
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,081,667$0$1,700,000$4,418,333
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Jankowski, Mark
$700,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Rodrigues, Evan
$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Ceci, Cody
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Sceviour, Colton
$1,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:07
#1
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idk the source of this rumour, but I'd fire Rutherford if he considered this. Pens don't need offence, they need defence. Without Pettersson that defence is horrid. At least he was a competent top 4 guy. Matheson isn't anything good. Ceci is awful. Riikola is better suited for the AHL. 1 injury and this team is screwed keeping pucks out, 7 with Letang's history that's risky. Not to mention their centre core is awful behind the top 2. 1 injury to one of them and they're a bottom 3 team in the league
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:09
#2
Ragsandbluesfan
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Bruh where did this even come from
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:09
#3
mhockey91
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
idk the source of this rumour, but I'd fire Rutherford if he considered this. Pens don't need offence, they need defence. Without Pettersson that defence is horrid. At least he was a competent top 4 guy. Matheson isn't anything good. Ceci is awful. Riikola is better suited for the AHL. 1 injury and this team is screwed keeping pucks out, 7 with Letang's history that's risky. Not to mention their centre core is awful behind the top 2. 1 injury to one of them and they're a bottom 3 team in the league


This is such a bad comment. Their defence is great. It’s one of the better D cores in the league. Matheson will be solid for us. Pens a bottom 3 team in the league with an injury? People said the exact same last year and then pens lost both SID AND MALKIN and we were first in the division by February (then went cold to end the season but still).

Keep on hating
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:10
#4
mhockey91
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Pens pass on this trade all day. Makes zero sense for them
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:12
#5
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Quoting: mhockey91
This is such a bad comment. Their defence is great. It’s one of the better D cores in the league. Matheson will be solid for us. Pens a bottom 3 team in the league with an injury? People said the exact same last year and then pens lost both SID AND MALKIN and we were first in the division by February (then went cold to end the season but still).

Keep on hating


if Matheson is so good, why would a team in need of defence trade him i the first place. Reality is, their top 3 is solid. After that, it's an AHL calibre defence. & if you feel comfortable with putting either Jankowski or Blueger in your top 6 and thinking you're going to compete, be my guest. Wouldn't be shocked to see this team completely miss playoffs again this season. It's not hate, it's reality. Sorry if your biased opinion blocks that
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:16
#6
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Huge OP, Kratsov is not that good
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:16
#7
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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Legit negative source for this and we aren’t trading kravtsov
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:16
#8
mhockey91
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
if Matheson is so good, why would a team in need of defence trade him i the first place. Reality is, their top 3 is solid. After that, it's an AHL calibre defence. & if you feel comfortable with putting either Jankowski or Blueger in your top 6 and thinking you're going to compete, be my guest. Wouldn't be shocked to see this team completely miss playoffs again this season. It's not hate, it's reality. Sorry if your biased opinion blocks that


Florida isn’t need of defence. Look at their roster. They need FORWARDS. Look at their top 6. How is their bottom 3 an AHL bottom 6??? That is hilarious. Pettersson is a legit top 4D. Matheson has room to bounce back as a 4/5, and ceci was expected to be a top pairing guy in Toronto, in Pittsburgh, all he needs to be is a #6. Not Pittsburgh’s fault Toronto played him over 20 mins a game. People like you say the same thing about Pittsburgh every single season, and every year you’re wrong. People last year told me pens would be a bottom feeding team. What a joke. Worry about your own team buddy.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:17
#9
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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Quoting: Adamitis
Huge OP, Kratsov is not that good


Pettersson isn’t that good
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:17
#10
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
if Matheson is so good, why would a team in need of defence trade him i the first place. Reality is, their top 3 is solid. After that, it's an AHL calibre defence. & if you feel comfortable with putting either Jankowski or Blueger in your top 6 and thinking you're going to compete, be my guest. Wouldn't be shocked to see this team completely miss playoffs again this season. It's not hate, it's reality. Sorry if your biased opinion blocks that


Your “reality” is saying the pens won’t be a playoff team if their best players get hurt. Real solid reality that is. You can say that about every team in the league
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:19
#11
mhockey91
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Pettersson isn’t that good


He’d be by far the rangers best LHD. This is an overpay by Pittsburgh for a very risky prospect. No thanks
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:19
#12
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
if Matheson is so good, why would a team in need of defence trade him i the first place. Reality is, their top 3 is solid. After that, it's an AHL calibre defence. & if you feel comfortable with putting either Jankowski or Blueger in your top 6 and thinking you're going to compete, be my guest. Wouldn't be shocked to see this team completely miss playoffs again this season. It's not hate, it's reality. Sorry if your biased opinion blocks that


You think that Florida management is making rational decisions? Ok

Pens have a really nice top 4: Dumo Letang is great,
Marino and Petersson are really solid (even if Pettersson is being carried a bit) and Matheson isn’t great, but he’s an NHL D, just overpaid. Ceci, **** knows....hard to **** on a guy that’s never not been a 1-4 D playing 20mins a game in shutdown role. He may be bad, but he will be better with Pens by default

On top of that Riikola is solid, Ruhwedel is playable depth and POJ is their most ready prospect.

D is above average for sure

How are Jankowski or Blueger playing top six? They are ur bottom line C options ffs
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:20
#13
mhockey91
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Your “reality” is saying the pens won’t be a playoff team if their best players get hurt. Real solid reality that is. You can say that about every team in the league


I mean I think as pens fans we gotta accept that everyone is just jealous of us, and wants us to fail so badly. I pity him, a leafs fan, who probably hasn’t even seen a playoff series win, let alone a cup
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:28
#14
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Pettersson isn’t that good


He’s not, but he’s a young NHL player and under team control. Kratsov is a question mark

Also Pettersson and Marino together....very good
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:31
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Also worth noting. Kratsov is staying in KHL all season apparently so he wouldn’t make the team
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:33
#16
imawesome
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Quoting: Adamitis
You think that Florida management is making rational decisions? Ok

Pens have a really nice top 4: Dumo Letang is great,
Marino and Petersson are really solid (even if Pettersson is being carried a bit) and Matheson isn’t great, but he’s an NHL D, just overpaid. Ceci, **** knows....hard to **** on a guy that’s never not been a 1-4 D playing 20mins a game in shutdown role. He may be bad, but he will be better with Pens by default

On top of that Riikola is solid, Ruhwedel is playable depth and POJ is their most ready prospect.

D is above average for sure

How are Jankowski or Blueger playing top six? They are ur bottom line C options ffs


Last I checked Jankowski was 3C
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:36
#17
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Edited Nov 28, 2020 at 7:42
Quoting: imawesome
Last I checked Jankowski was 3C


Sure maybe. Doesn’t really change the argument. Someone goes down in the top 6 McCann is first man up, or maybe Tanev

Could be McCann too in the “3C” spot. Noteworthy that pens actually play their 4th line as much as or more than their 3rd 5v5 so....Blueger is the third C 5v5.

I’m not sold that Jankowski is anything at this point though, let alone a 3C

But ya, JR called him that so
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:41
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Bruh where did this even come from


Ya I wonder...
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:41
#19
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Quoting: mhockey91
Pens pass on this trade all day. Makes zero sense for them


I agree but value wise NYR loose. Petterson is way better now, but in the future it looks very likely Kravtsov will be.
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:42
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Hockey IQ
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
if Matheson is so good, why would a team in need of defence trade him i the first place. Reality is, their top 3 is solid. After that, it's an AHL calibre defence. & if you feel comfortable with putting either Jankowski or Blueger in your top 6 and thinking you're going to compete, be my guest. Wouldn't be shocked to see this team completely miss playoffs again this season. It's not hate, it's reality. Sorry if your biased opinion blocks that


Quoting: mhockey91
Florida isn’t need of defence. Look at their roster. They need FORWARDS. Look at their top 6. How is their bottom 3 an AHL bottom 6??? That is hilarious. Pettersson is a legit top 4D. Matheson has room to bounce back as a 4/5, and ceci was expected to be a top pairing guy in Toronto, in Pittsburgh, all he needs to be is a #6. Not Pittsburgh’s fault Toronto played him over 20 mins a game. People like you say the same thing about Pittsburgh every single season, and every year you’re wrong. People last year told me pens would be a bottom feeding team. What a joke. Worry about your own team buddy.


Quoting: Adamitis
You think that Florida management is making rational decisions? Ok

Pens have a really nice top 4: Dumo Letang is great,
Marino and Petersson are really solid (even if Pettersson is being carried a bit) and Matheson isn’t great, but he’s an NHL D, just overpaid. Ceci, **** knows....hard to **** on a guy that’s never not been a 1-4 D playing 20mins a game in shutdown role. He may be bad, but he will be better with Pens by default

On top of that Riikola is solid, Ruhwedel is playable depth and POJ is their most ready prospect.

D is above average for sure

How are Jankowski or Blueger playing top six? They are ur bottom line C options ffs


matheson was bad in florida. I don't know anyone that would dispute. that said, the whole franchise has been a gong show for the last several years. alot of people say that matheson is actually a decent third pair D with the potential to be a top-4 who was just a terrible fit with FLA's system. I think PIT's defense is right now between #12-#18 in the league. Matheson COULD be a total bust. OR, he could rediscover his career. there is viable reason he got that contract (well, part of it anyway...) even if he is legit top-4 FLA was still premature. he is fast and a puck mover------all things that FIT WITH PITTSBURGH. there is legit data that suggests he is very misused and can actually contribute. now playing with Ceci.....might hamper that but we'll see. PITs D top-4 is solid. the 3rd pair has alot of intriguing pieces, but for sure is banking on players bouncing back.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:44
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I agree but value wise NYR loose. Petterson is way better now, but in the future it looks very likely Kravtsov will be.


Kratsov a very risky prospect. Not a risk pens should be willing to take. He was underwhelming in the AHL this year.
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:46
#22
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Quoting: mhockey91
Kratsov a very risky prospect. Not a risk pens should be willing to take. He was underwhelming in the AHL this year.


I agree that the pens should not do this. And yes, Kravtsov is risky, but his potential is high.
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:48
#23
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: mhockey91
Kratsov a very risky prospect. Not a risk pens should be willing to take. He was underwhelming in the AHL this year.


This year is actually in russia right now where hes tearing it up, literally carrying sedlak and hyka rn
Nov 28, 2020 at 7:48
#24
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
matheson was bad in florida. I don't know anyone that would dispute. that said, the whole franchise has been a gong show for the last several years. alot of people say that matheson is actually a decent third pair D with the potential to be a top-4 who was just a terrible fit with FLA's system. I think PIT's defense is right now between #12-#18 in the league. Matheson COULD be a total bust. OR, he could rediscover his career. there is viable reason he got that contract (well, part of it anyway...) even if he is legit top-4 FLA was still premature. he is fast and a puck mover------all things that FIT WITH PITTSBURGH. there is legit data that suggests he is very misused and can actually contribute. now playing with Ceci.....might hamper that but we'll see. PITs D top-4 is solid. the 3rd pair has alot of intriguing pieces, but for sure is banking on players bouncing back.


At worst Matheson is a 5. His contract is the issue more than his play.

He was a turnover machine last year, but outside that he isn’t terrible defensively and has offensive skill in there. Shouldnt feel is pressured to create with Pens...probably.

Florida made a lot of D look bad last season, so it was pretty doomed there.

Totally speculation but worth asking if it was an issue with Q, as he has never not had a pretty elite d core as a HC. Not something he ever had to make work.
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Nov 28, 2020 at 7:50
#25
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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Quoting: mhockey91
He’d be by far the rangers best LHD. This is an overpay by Pittsburgh for a very risky prospect. No thanks


He’s not risky at all and lindgren would be better than pettersson and we wouldn’t be able to protect him
 
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