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5 Clusters of LHD

Created by: ek_65
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 1, 2020
Published: Dec. 1, 2020
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Did a similar thing yesterday with NHL 1Cs. I grouped clusters of top LHD in the NHL, based on how I personally view them. D are a little different to evaluate so I used a combination of personal opinion, importance to team success , usage, stats, skill set and wow factor. If I forgot someone doesn't mean they're not good- either a mistake or I don't view them in these groups
#1 Tier- Hedman and Josi have had success in the league for a while and I think that separates them from the rest of the group. Consistent Norris canidates, workhorses and essential for team success. Slavvin was very close, maybe another stellar year, cup run or Norris finalist for me. Younger guys will get there, please don't fret me about Hughes, Hieskenan, Werenski
#2 Tier- all fairly young guys who carry the team on their backs. Will be in Norris conversation for rest of their careers, and will win. Not at Hedman or Josi level yet. Dahlin was almost placed here, but he's only 20 and still has some parts of his game to work out with Kruger.
#3 Tier- Elite D to me, who with a good season can win a Norris and are essential to team success. Based on skill, but also team usage and lack of help around them. Sergachev will get there, but was fairly sheltered with his role in TBL this year. Same with Lindell- surrounded by Miro and Klingberg will never be the top dog.
#4 tier- All very good and major parts of team D-core. Not Norris candiates, but very well respected in league because of their skill.
#5 tier- Since D have a longer develop path I think these guys will shoot up the tiers as they grow. Probably won't reach Josi/Hedman level but will be major component of a succesful d-core. I know Toews in 26, but he just played his first full NHL season
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
37$1$153,878,466$0$6,200,000-$153,878,465
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Consensus Superstar D, Separate from rest of group
$1,000,000$1,000,000
Superstar D, Norris candidates elite skills irreplaceable to team
$1,000,000$1,000,000
Elite D, Norris Conversation valuable to team
$1,000,000$1,000,000
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$9,059,000$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$7,538,462$7,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Very Good D, difference makers important to teams Dcore
$1,000,000$1,000,000
Very good young D, havent hit full ceiling
$1,000,000$1,000,000
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$5,800,000$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,822,764$2,822,764
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$6,350,000$6,350,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$2,602,778$2,602,778
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$4,166,667$4,166,667
LD
NMC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
#1
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Honestly I would move slavin down one tier.
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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No Shea Weber ????? He'd be in the right wing or left d category for me
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
No Shea Weber ????? He'd be in the right wing or left d category for me


He'd need to switch his hockey stick for a lefty one
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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Adam Pelech is prob tier 4
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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Really solid list
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
He'd need to switch his hockey stick for a lefty one


I meant the categories of groups of d but i'm sure you knew that
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
Honestly I would move slavin down one tier.


agreed. He fits better with that group. Was worried people would get mad for putting him in tier 1 because of his "advanced stats" and defensive play lol
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Adam Pelech is prob tier 4


true
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.
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Ehhh
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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Hughes and Krug in Norris consideration? If Carlson puts up that many points, I feel comfortable saying Hughes will never win one.
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Hughes and Krug in Norris consideration? If Carlson puts up that many points, I feel comfortable saying Hughes will never win one.


Hughes isn't as bad as Carlson defensively. Krug is great but he won't win a Norris, if you value offense and defense equally.
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:45 p.m.
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I would say Muzzin is in the fourth tier. Your description of it fits him to a T.
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Hughes isn't as bad as Carlson defensively. Krug is great but he won't win a Norris, if you value offense and defense equally.


It doesn't if I value offense and defense, that's what it takes to win the Norris.
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Hughes and Krug in Norris consideration? If Carlson puts up that many points, I feel comfortable saying Hughes will never win one.


I can agree with your Krug point- maybe move him down a tier. Hughes made the game look easy and was a play driver at 21, and I assume he'll just keep getting better. We'll see more after this year. Carlson's a great player and still has a good window to win- came 2nd for Norris last year, and top 5 the previous two. Driving offense isn't the hallmark of his game; he only put up over 50 points once before age 27, and has benefitted from playing with a very strong offensive team.
Dec. 1, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.
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I would say Muzzin is in the fourth tier. Your description of it fits him to a T.


agreed
Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I meant the categories of groups of d but i'm sure you knew that


🤦‍♂️ This list is only including LHD. Which is why Weber isn’t on here. @SevenLeg wasn’t talking about the categories.
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.
Carlson was on a 89 point pace this year

Last 2 years point leaders
Carlson
149gp 28g 117a 145 points

next in line
burns 128
josi 121
hedman 109
yandle 107

to be clear he's scored 17 more point than the closest Dman. His defensive game isnt great but people on this site like to glorify how bad it actually is. he's top 25 point producer the last 2 seasons....

"Hedman and Josi have had success in the league for a while and I think that separates them from the rest of the group. Consistent Norris candidates, workhorses and essential for team success. " now i do agree that they are important and are the 2 best in the league but Carlson is 2nd in points for the capitals and a huge reason the recently won a cup.. "team success"


long story short lets put some respect on Carlson's name

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LHD only my fault im dumb
Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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Jake Muzzin could be somewhere, like in tier 4 if Yandle is there
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Carlson was on a 89 point pace this year

Last 2 years point leaders
Carlson
149gp 28g 117a 145 points

next in line
burns 128
josi 121
hedman 109
yandle 107

to be clear he's scored 17 more point than the closest Dman. His defensive game isnt great but people on this site like to glorify how bad it actually is. he's top 25 point producer the last 2 seasons....

"Hedman and Josi have had success in the league for a while and I think that separates them from the rest of the group. Consistent Norris candidates, workhorses and essential for team success. " now i do agree that they are important and are the 2 best in the league but Carlson is 2nd in points for the capitals and a huge reason the recently won a cup.. "team success"


long story short lets put some respect on Carlson's name


This list is only LHD, so of course Carlson isn’t on here.
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Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: ek_65
I can agree with your Krug point- maybe move him down a tier. Hughes made the game look easy and was a play driver at 21, and I assume he'll just keep getting better. We'll see more after this year. Carlson's a great player and still has a good window to win- came 2nd for Norris last year, and top 5 the previous two. Driving offense isn't the hallmark of his game; he only put up over 50 points once before age 27, and has benefitted from playing with a very strong offensive team.


Carlson didn't win because he's all offense. The game has way more elite defensemen when it comes to the combination of defense and offense.

Heiskanen, McAvoy, Fox, Dahlin, Ekblad, and Chabot will all win Norrises before Hughes and Makar because they are better defensively and as long as they put up over 50 points they will likely get it over those guys even if they put up 70 points. Although before Giordano and Josi won I almost lost all my faith in the Norris and would believe Hughes and Makar would win it before the guys I previously mentioned since for awhile the awards meaning was solely based on offense while EK, Subban, Burns were winning it with the deserving Hedman or Doughty finally winning it even though they both should have won 2+ times.
Dec. 1, 2020 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
This list is only LHD, so of course Carlson isn’t on here.


makes sense thank you for that.
Dec. 1, 2020 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
He'd need to switch his hockey stick for a lefty one


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
🤦‍♂️ This list is only including LHD. Which is why Weber isn’t on here. @SevenLeg wasn’t talking about the categories.


I’m stupid, I misread the title, you guys are right
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